Re: Tracing D Applications
On 3/19/20 10:56 PM, Kagamin wrote: The term "production" there seemingly means "the developer that wrote the program is also an administrator of all production systems" :) Production systems have maintenance mode one way or another. Case where you try to get access to production systems whose administrator doesn't want to give you that access is an other topic. ;)
Re: Tracing D Applications
On Friday, 13 March 2020 at 19:00:01 UTC, Mike Parker wrote: Blog: https://dlang.org/blog/2020/03/13/tracing-d-applications/ The term "production" there seemingly means "the developer that wrote the program is also an administrator of all production systems" :)
Re: Tracing D Applications
On Wednesday, 18 March 2020 at 12:27:11 UTC, drug wrote: Is XRay available on macOS now? As I understand it is linux specific too. Some LLVM docs are notoriously outdated. Latest official LDC Mac packages ship with the XRay libs; Windows appears still unsupported though.
Re: Tracing D Applications
On 3/14/20 9:38 PM, Johan wrote: On Friday, 13 March 2020 at 21:41:44 UTC, kinke wrote: On Friday, 13 March 2020 at 19:00:01 UTC, Mike Parker wrote: This post by Alexandr Druzhinin shows three different approaches to tracing, using writef and external tools. Blog: https://dlang.org/blog/2020/03/13/tracing-d-applications/ Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/fi4qfw/tracing_d_applications/ Thanks! Another option is to leverage LLVM niceties via LDC's XRay support (https://github.com/ldc-developers/ldc/pull/2465, https://llvm.org/docs/XRay.html). Although I added XRay support in LDC, I've never actually used it because it was not available on macOS at the time. Would be very interested in hearing people's experiences. Another option is `-finstrument-functions` (LDC, and probably GDC too): see e.g. http://hacktalks.blogspot.com/2013/08/gcc-instrument-functions.html and https://youtu.be/LNav5qvyK7I -Johan Is XRay available on macOS now? As I understand it is linux specific too.
Re: Tracing D Applications
On 3/17/20 7:12 PM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote: On 3/13/20 3:00 PM, Mike Parker wrote: This post by Alexandr Druzhinin shows three different approaches to tracing, using writef and external tools. Blog: https://dlang.org/blog/2020/03/13/tracing-d-applications/ Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/fi4qfw/tracing_d_applications/ Just got around to reading this. What an awesome article! I had no idea of these options. I always reach for good-old printf. Would it make sense to put some mixins into Phobos/druntime for use in tracing, at least for the debug version of the library? Or have a parallel traceable version of the library? -Steve Thank you! These mixins are trivial in fact and can be easily added/removed to DRuntime. But they are platform/OS specific (x86_64/Linux) so imo better would be to add tracing capabilities for other platforms, summarize it all and then develop some _crossplatform_ tracing framework for D.
Re: Tracing D Applications
On Tuesday, 17 March 2020 at 16:13:24 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote: On 3/13/20 3:00 PM, Mike Parker wrote: This post by Alexandr Druzhinin shows three different approaches to tracing, using writef and external tools. Blog: https://dlang.org/blog/2020/03/13/tracing-d-applications/ Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/fi4qfw/tracing_d_applications/ typo: sorta of => sort of -Steve Thanks!
Re: Tracing D Applications
On 3/13/20 3:00 PM, Mike Parker wrote: This post by Alexandr Druzhinin shows three different approaches to tracing, using writef and external tools. Blog: https://dlang.org/blog/2020/03/13/tracing-d-applications/ Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/fi4qfw/tracing_d_applications/ typo: sorta of => sort of -Steve
Re: Tracing D Applications
On 3/13/20 3:00 PM, Mike Parker wrote: This post by Alexandr Druzhinin shows three different approaches to tracing, using writef and external tools. Blog: https://dlang.org/blog/2020/03/13/tracing-d-applications/ Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/fi4qfw/tracing_d_applications/ Just got around to reading this. What an awesome article! I had no idea of these options. I always reach for good-old printf. Would it make sense to put some mixins into Phobos/druntime for use in tracing, at least for the debug version of the library? Or have a parallel traceable version of the library? -Steve
Re: Tracing D Applications
On 3/16/20 9:04 PM, WebFreak001 wrote: On Sunday, 15 March 2020 at 09:47:52 UTC, drug wrote: 15.03.2020 03:19, WebFreak001 пишет: On Friday, 13 March 2020 at 19:00:01 UTC, Mike Parker wrote: This post by Alexandr Druzhinin shows three different approaches to tracing, using writef and external tools. Blog: https://dlang.org/blog/2020/03/13/tracing-d-applications/ Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/fi4qfw/tracing_d_applications/ doesn't load here :/ What do you mean? blog page loads forever and then times out just like in https://forum.dlang.org/thread/vyzzptpssxqbfveeb...@forum.dlang.org I see. There is a preliminary (almost final) version https://github.com/drug007/tracing_post
Re: Tracing D Applications
On Sunday, 15 March 2020 at 09:47:52 UTC, drug wrote: 15.03.2020 03:19, WebFreak001 пишет: On Friday, 13 March 2020 at 19:00:01 UTC, Mike Parker wrote: This post by Alexandr Druzhinin shows three different approaches to tracing, using writef and external tools. Blog: https://dlang.org/blog/2020/03/13/tracing-d-applications/ Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/fi4qfw/tracing_d_applications/ doesn't load here :/ What do you mean? blog page loads forever and then times out just like in https://forum.dlang.org/thread/vyzzptpssxqbfveeb...@forum.dlang.org
Re: Tracing D Applications
15.03.2020 03:19, WebFreak001 пишет: On Friday, 13 March 2020 at 19:00:01 UTC, Mike Parker wrote: This post by Alexandr Druzhinin shows three different approaches to tracing, using writef and external tools. Blog: https://dlang.org/blog/2020/03/13/tracing-d-applications/ Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/fi4qfw/tracing_d_applications/ doesn't load here :/ What do you mean?
Re: Tracing D Applications
14.03.2020 00:41, kinke пишет: On Friday, 13 March 2020 at 19:00:01 UTC, Mike Parker wrote: This post by Alexandr Druzhinin shows three different approaches to tracing, using writef and external tools. Blog: https://dlang.org/blog/2020/03/13/tracing-d-applications/ Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/fi4qfw/tracing_d_applications/ Thanks! Another option is to leverage LLVM niceties via LDC's XRay support (https://github.com/ldc-developers/ldc/pull/2465, https://llvm.org/docs/XRay.html). https://github.com/drug007/tracing_post/issues/1
Re: Tracing D Applications
On Friday, 13 March 2020 at 19:00:01 UTC, Mike Parker wrote: This post by Alexandr Druzhinin shows three different approaches to tracing, using writef and external tools. Blog: https://dlang.org/blog/2020/03/13/tracing-d-applications/ Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/fi4qfw/tracing_d_applications/ doesn't load here :/
Re: Tracing D Applications
On Friday, 13 March 2020 at 21:41:44 UTC, kinke wrote: On Friday, 13 March 2020 at 19:00:01 UTC, Mike Parker wrote: This post by Alexandr Druzhinin shows three different approaches to tracing, using writef and external tools. Blog: https://dlang.org/blog/2020/03/13/tracing-d-applications/ Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/fi4qfw/tracing_d_applications/ Thanks! Another option is to leverage LLVM niceties via LDC's XRay support (https://github.com/ldc-developers/ldc/pull/2465, https://llvm.org/docs/XRay.html). Although I added XRay support in LDC, I've never actually used it because it was not available on macOS at the time. Would be very interested in hearing people's experiences. Another option is `-finstrument-functions` (LDC, and probably GDC too): see e.g. http://hacktalks.blogspot.com/2013/08/gcc-instrument-functions.html and https://youtu.be/LNav5qvyK7I -Johan
Re: Tracing D Applications
On Friday, 13 March 2020 at 19:00:01 UTC, Mike Parker wrote: This post by Alexandr Druzhinin shows three different approaches to tracing, using writef and external tools. Blog: https://dlang.org/blog/2020/03/13/tracing-d-applications/ Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/fi4qfw/tracing_d_applications/ Thanks! Another option is to leverage LLVM niceties via LDC's XRay support (https://github.com/ldc-developers/ldc/pull/2465, https://llvm.org/docs/XRay.html).
Tracing D Applications
This post by Alexandr Druzhinin shows three different approaches to tracing, using writef and external tools. Blog: https://dlang.org/blog/2020/03/13/tracing-d-applications/ Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/fi4qfw/tracing_d_applications/
