Re: Promises/A+ spec implementations?

2015-08-19 Thread Alex Parrill via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Wednesday, 19 August 2015 at 04:18:03 UTC, Alexander J. 
Vincent wrote:
Hi, folks.  Over ten years ago I had some interest in the D 
language.  I'm starting to think about it again...


I've been using Mozilla's Promises implementations for quite a 
while, now, and they're surprisingly nice to work with.  They 
are the next generation beyond the callback function patterns I 
learned in JavaScript.  I've been thinking that writing a 
Promises/A+ library for D would be a good task for a relatively 
inexperienced D programmer.  I didn't see any Promises/A+ 
implementations in the standard library or on code.dlang.org.


Now, whether I write that library or someone else beats me to 
it, I don't really care right now.  I'm interested in doing it, 
but my time is extremely limited.  I'm mainly posting this as a 
request to get a Promises/A+ library started, and for me to 
observe the process of crafting a library.  If someone wants to 
be a mentor for me on this, answering direct questions, that'd 
be great.


The spec for Promises/A+ is at https://promisesaplus.com/ . 
Mozilla's Bobby Holley recently wrote a good blog post about a 
MozPromise implementation which includes supporting 
multithreading (a concept I don't fully understand how to write 
for, yet) and cancelling a Promise (which isn't in the spec, 
but makes sense for Mozilla's purposes).  That blog post is at 
http://bholley.net/blog/2015/mozpromise.html .


Finally, I had an old login to this forum (kb7iuj), which I've 
long forgotten the password for.  I did see that there's no 
password recovery support, so could someone just terminate that 
login for good?


IMO the 'next' generation of async is fibers/coroutines, not 
promises. Vibe.d is a great example; the code looks exactly like 
a normal synchronous function (including try/catch!), but is 
asynchronous behind the scenes.


See also vibe.d's feature page [1] and examples [2]

There's also C#'s async/await, but that's a syntax feature and I 
don't know how they work.


[1]: http://vibed.org/features#fibers
[2]: http://vibed.org/docs



Re: Promises/A+ spec implementations?

2015-08-19 Thread Alexander J. Vincent via Digitalmars-d-learn

On Thursday, 20 August 2015 at 01:10:39 UTC, Alex Parrill wrote:

IMO the 'next' generation of async is fibers/coroutines, not 
promises. Vibe.d is a great example; the code looks exactly 
like a normal synchronous function (including try/catch!), but 
is asynchronous behind the scenes.


See also vibe.d's feature page [1] and examples [2]


Ahhh.  That's actually really close to what I had in mind 
_immediately after_ Promises.  Mozilla does the same thing with 
microtasks and a yield statement in ECMAScript 6.  So that's 
actually a good thing!  Thanks for the links.


Promises/A+ spec implementations?

2015-08-18 Thread Alexander J. Vincent via Digitalmars-d-learn
Hi, folks.  Over ten years ago I had some interest in the D 
language.  I'm starting to think about it again...


I've been using Mozilla's Promises implementations for quite a 
while, now, and they're surprisingly nice to work with.  They are 
the next generation beyond the callback function patterns I 
learned in JavaScript.  I've been thinking that writing a 
Promises/A+ library for D would be a good task for a relatively 
inexperienced D programmer.  I didn't see any Promises/A+ 
implementations in the standard library or on code.dlang.org.


Now, whether I write that library or someone else beats me to it, 
I don't really care right now.  I'm interested in doing it, but 
my time is extremely limited.  I'm mainly posting this as a 
request to get a Promises/A+ library started, and for me to 
observe the process of crafting a library.  If someone wants to 
be a mentor for me on this, answering direct questions, that'd be 
great.


The spec for Promises/A+ is at https://promisesaplus.com/ . 
Mozilla's Bobby Holley recently wrote a good blog post about a 
MozPromise implementation which includes supporting 
multithreading (a concept I don't fully understand how to write 
for, yet) and cancelling a Promise (which isn't in the spec, but 
makes sense for Mozilla's purposes).  That blog post is at 
http://bholley.net/blog/2015/mozpromise.html .


Finally, I had an old login to this forum (kb7iuj), which I've 
long forgotten the password for.  I did see that there's no 
password recovery support, so could someone just terminate that 
login for good?