Re: Is there an opposite of .toString()?

2017-10-15 Thread Faux Amis via Digitalmars-d-learn

On 2017-10-14 05:47, Jonathan M Davis wrote:

On Saturday, October 14, 2017 00:18:35 myst via Digitalmars-d-learn wrote:

I'm sorry if this has been answered already, it seems like a very
basic question.

There is .toString() method convention for printing, but I can
not find anything alike for reading. Is there something like
operator>>() in C++? What's an ideomatic way of reading an object?


The function to use for conversions in general is std.conv.to. And really,
there isn't much of a reason to ever call toString. Functions like writeln,
format, and to may use it internally, but it's more or less an anti-pattern
to do so in your own code - especially if we're talking about generic code.
If you're looking to convert something to string, to!string works with
pretty much everything and toString works with considerably less. And if
there's a generic way to convert from string to something else, it's also
with to - e.g. to!int("42"). However, for that conversion to work, it either
has to be a built-in type so that to understands it, or the type will need a
constructor that takes a string. In general, in order to generically convert
to a user-defined type, either that target type must have a constructor that
accepts that source type, or the source type must define opCast or an alias
to convert to the target type. std.conv.to is very powerful, but it does
need to have something to work with. If anything approaching a standard
conversion exists, it can be done with std.conv.to; otherwise, it's going to
depend on the type.

I think that in general, you're going to find that converting to a string
works with most everything, but aside from built-in types, converting from a
string with std.conv.to is unlikely to work. _Some_ types do have
constructors that take strings, but most don't. Built-in types will work,
because std.conv.to understands how to do that conversion. For user-defined
types, either you're likely going to have to parse the string yourself, or
they may contain another function for doing the conversion (for instance
std.datetime.systime.SysTime uses toISOExtString and fromISOExtString to
convert to and from the ISO extended format for a date and time and has
other functions for other time formats).

You can also check out std.conv.parse, which acts similarly to std.conv.to,
but whereas to converts the entire string, parse converts the first portion
of a string and therefore is meant to allow for parsing multiple values from
a string.

- Jonathan M Davis


Thanks for the proper/complete reply ;)


Re: Is there an opposite of .toString()?

2017-10-14 Thread myst via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Saturday, 14 October 2017 at 03:47:29 UTC, Jonathan M Davis 
wrote:
The function to use for conversions in general is std.conv.to. 
And really, there isn't much of a reason to ever call toString. 
Functions like writeln, format, and to may use it internally, 
but it's more or less an anti-pattern to do so in your own code 
- especially if we're talking about generic code. If you're 
looking to convert something to string, to!string works with 
pretty much everything and toString works with considerably 
less. And if there's a generic way to convert from string to 
something else, it's also with to - e.g. to!int("42"). However, 
for that conversion to work, it either has to be a built-in 
type so that to understands it, or the type will need a 
constructor that takes a string. In general, in order to 
generically convert to a user-defined type, either that target 
type must have a constructor that accepts that source type, or 
the source type must define opCast or an alias to convert to 
the target type. std.conv.to is very powerful, but it does need 
to have something to work with. If anything approaching a 
standard conversion exists, it can be done with std.conv.to; 
otherwise, it's going to depend on the type.


I think that in general, you're going to find that converting 
to a string works with most everything, but aside from built-in 
types, converting from a string with std.conv.to is unlikely to 
work. _Some_ types do have constructors that take strings, but 
most don't. Built-in types will work, because std.conv.to 
understands how to do that conversion. For user-defined types, 
either you're likely going to have to parse the string 
yourself, or they may contain another function for doing the 
conversion (for instance std.datetime.systime.SysTime uses 
toISOExtString and fromISOExtString to convert to and from the 
ISO extended format for a date and time and has other functions 
for other time formats).


This is not what I asked about.

You can also check out std.conv.parse, which acts similarly to 
std.conv.to, but whereas to converts the entire string, parse 
converts the first portion of a string and therefore is meant 
to allow for parsing multiple values from a string.


This is what I asked about. Thanks.


Re: Is there an opposite of .toString()?

2017-10-13 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Saturday, October 14, 2017 00:18:35 myst via Digitalmars-d-learn wrote:
> I'm sorry if this has been answered already, it seems like a very
> basic question.
>
> There is .toString() method convention for printing, but I can
> not find anything alike for reading. Is there something like
> operator>>() in C++? What's an ideomatic way of reading an object?

The function to use for conversions in general is std.conv.to. And really,
there isn't much of a reason to ever call toString. Functions like writeln,
format, and to may use it internally, but it's more or less an anti-pattern
to do so in your own code - especially if we're talking about generic code.
If you're looking to convert something to string, to!string works with
pretty much everything and toString works with considerably less. And if
there's a generic way to convert from string to something else, it's also
with to - e.g. to!int("42"). However, for that conversion to work, it either
has to be a built-in type so that to understands it, or the type will need a
constructor that takes a string. In general, in order to generically convert
to a user-defined type, either that target type must have a constructor that
accepts that source type, or the source type must define opCast or an alias
to convert to the target type. std.conv.to is very powerful, but it does
need to have something to work with. If anything approaching a standard
conversion exists, it can be done with std.conv.to; otherwise, it's going to
depend on the type.

I think that in general, you're going to find that converting to a string
works with most everything, but aside from built-in types, converting from a
string with std.conv.to is unlikely to work. _Some_ types do have
constructors that take strings, but most don't. Built-in types will work,
because std.conv.to understands how to do that conversion. For user-defined
types, either you're likely going to have to parse the string yourself, or
they may contain another function for doing the conversion (for instance
std.datetime.systime.SysTime uses toISOExtString and fromISOExtString to
convert to and from the ISO extended format for a date and time and has
other functions for other time formats).

You can also check out std.conv.parse, which acts similarly to std.conv.to,
but whereas to converts the entire string, parse converts the first portion
of a string and therefore is meant to allow for parsing multiple values from
a string.

- Jonathan M Davis



Re: Is there an opposite of .toString()?

2017-10-13 Thread myst via Digitalmars-d-learn

On Saturday, 14 October 2017 at 02:16:12 UTC, Fra Mecca wrote:

On Saturday, 14 October 2017 at 00:18:35 UTC, myst wrote:
...
some snippet of a c++ code that does what you mean


#include 
#include 

struct S {
std::string s;
int p;
int n;
};

std::istream& operator>>(std::istream& is, S& s)
{
is >> s.s >> s.p >> s.n;
return is;
}


Re: Is there an opposite of .toString()?

2017-10-13 Thread Fra Mecca via Digitalmars-d-learn

On Saturday, 14 October 2017 at 00:18:35 UTC, myst wrote:
I'm sorry if this has been answered already, it seems like a 
very basic question.


There is .toString() method convention for printing, but I can 
not find anything alike for reading. Is there something like 
operator>>() in C++? What's an ideomatic way of reading an 
object?


Can you make an example of "reading from object"? Or better some 
snippet of a c++ code that does what you mean