Re: Static function at module level
ketmar: other function declarations (methods, nested functions) accepts 'static', so why free functions shouldn't? For various reasons, one of them is that accepting useless code confuses newbies and doesn't allow them to build a correct model of the D semantics in their head. Bye, bearophile
Re: Static function at module level
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 06:46:02AM +, bearophile via Digitalmars-d-learn wrote: ketmar: other function declarations (methods, nested functions) accepts 'static', so why free functions shouldn't? For various reasons, one of them is that accepting useless code confuses newbies and doesn't allow them to build a correct model of the D semantics in their head. [...] Is there a bug filed for this? T -- Век живи - век учись. А дураком помрёшь.
Re: Static function at module level
H. S. Teoh: Is there a bug filed for this? Probably there is. But I stopped filing similar bugs because they seem to have a very low priority. Bye, bearophile
Re: Static function at module level
On Monday, 18 August 2014 at 06:46:03 UTC, bearophile wrote: ketmar: other function declarations (methods, nested functions) accepts 'static', so why free functions shouldn't? For various reasons, one of them is that accepting useless code confuses newbies and doesn't allow them to build a correct model of the D semantics in their head. Bye, bearophile Agreed. I was misled for a minute. I don't think it should compile.
Re: Static function at module level
On Monday, 18 August 2014 at 05:29:53 UTC, Jonathan M Davis via
Digitalmars-d-learn wrote:
On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 01:32:40 +
Phil Lavoie via Digitalmars-d-learn
digitalmars-d-learn@puremagic.com
wrote:
Ok, so after years of D usage I just noticed that this is
valid D
(compiles anyways):
static void myFunc() {}
What is a static function at module level exactly? In C, that
means private, in D, that means ___?
I'm pretty sure that it means nothing. It's just one of those
cases where an
attribute is ignored, because it doesn't apply rather than
resulting in an
error.
- Jonathan M Davis
All right thanks!
Re: Static function at module level
On Monday, 18 August 2014 at 14:23:47 UTC, bearophile wrote:
H. S. Teoh:
Is there a bug filed for this?
Probably there is. But I stopped filing similar bugs because
they seem to have a very low priority.
Bye,
bearophile
I looked around for it but didn't find it. I filed this one:
https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13322
As you'll see, every type of module level declaration accepts
static.
static int x;
static void myFunc(){}
static interface MyInterface{}
static class MyClass{}
static struct MyStruct{}
static template myTemplate{}
And maybe I am missing some.
Re: Static function at module level
On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 06:46:02 + bearophile via Digitalmars-d-learn digitalmars-d-learn@puremagic.com wrote: accepting useless code confuses newbies i think that i'm not really a newbie now ;-), but i'm still used to declare various private module functions and variables as 'static'. yes, sometimes this confuses me (as to do i need to make this sta... ah, scrap that, it's D!), but sometimes this is handy. why? i'm still have to use C sometimes, and i'm writing 'static' automatically. having compiler to accept it for anything high-level saves me one regexp search-and-replace. ;-) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Static function at module level
On Monday, 18 August 2014 at 17:42:37 UTC, ketmar via
Digitalmars-d-learn wrote:
On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 06:46:02 +
bearophile via Digitalmars-d-learn
digitalmars-d-learn@puremagic.com
wrote:
accepting useless code confuses newbies
i think that i'm not really a newbie now ;-), but i'm still
used to
declare various private module functions and variables as
'static'.
yes, sometimes this confuses me (as to do i need to make this
sta...
ah, scrap that, it's D!), but sometimes this is handy. why?
i'm still
have to use C sometimes, and i'm writing 'static'
automatically. having
compiler to accept it for anything high-level saves me one
regexp
search-and-replace. ;-)
I don't think he meant you personally. Well, I hope not. I was
confused by it too and I don't consider myself a D newbie.
I get that it is convenient for you. I have done a lot of C
myself. However, convenience loses to misleading in my book.
Consider that in the future, for example, static interface
Toto{} means something different than interface Toto{}. I am
not debating whether or not that would ever happen or what would
even be the meaning of a static interface (even though I have an
idea), the point is more like this: every compiler version will
accept both versions of said interface, but some of those
compiler will interpret it differently. Now that's a problem.
Philz
Re: Static function at module level
On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:55:01 + Phil Lavoie via Digitalmars-d-learn digitalmars-d-learn@puremagic.com wrote: I don't think he meant you personally. ah, nothing personal, i just described my use case, maybe using some vague wording. i AM a newbie in D, there is nothing insulting in being newbie. ;-) the point is more like this: every compiler version will accept both versions of said interface, but some of those compiler will interpret it differently. Now that's a problem. hm. to be honest, i just don't want to fix almost all my code removing spurious 'static's here and there. ;-) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Static function at module level
Ok, so after years of D usage I just noticed that this is valid D
(compiles anyways):
static void myFunc() {}
What is a static function at module level exactly? In C, that
means private, in D, that means ___?
Thanks,
Phil
Re: Static function at module level
On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 01:32:40 +
Phil Lavoie via Digitalmars-d-learn digitalmars-d-learn@puremagic.com
wrote:
Ok, so after years of D usage I just noticed that this is valid D
(compiles anyways):
static void myFunc() {}
What is a static function at module level exactly? In C, that
means private, in D, that means ___?
I'm pretty sure that it means nothing. It's just one of those cases where an
attribute is ignored, because it doesn't apply rather than resulting in an
error.
- Jonathan M Davis
Re: Static function at module level
On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 01:32:40 + Phil Lavoie via Digitalmars-d-learn digitalmars-d-learn@puremagic.com wrote: What is a static function at module level exactly? In C, that means private, in D, that means ___? nothing. static attribute for free function has no special meaning. but other function declarations (methods, nested functions) accepts 'static', so why free functions shouldn't? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
