Re: Why D functions paramter can not implicit infer type of Variant?

2021-01-13 Thread sighoya via Digitalmars-d-learn

On Wednesday, 13 January 2021 at 19:38:55 UTC, Paul Backus wrote:

That's what Variant is--a struct that models the universal 
supertype (sometimes called "Top" or "Any").


Ahh right. Good point, so it already fits.


Re: Why D functions paramter can not implicit infer type of Variant?

2021-01-13 Thread Paul Backus via Digitalmars-d-learn

On Wednesday, 13 January 2021 at 18:09:08 UTC, sighoya wrote:
A more natural conclusion would be to infer c to the most 
common supertype as other inferences would unnecessarily 
exclude future assignments to c.  But the most common supertype 
doesn't seem to exist, and I'm unsure if this type can be 
modeled at all in D?


That's what Variant is--a struct that models the universal 
supertype (sometimes called "Top" or "Any").


Re: Why D functions paramter can not implicit infer type of Variant?

2021-01-13 Thread sighoya via Digitalmars-d-learn

On Wednesday, 13 January 2021 at 16:17:02 UTC, Marcone wrote:

import std;

void a(int b){
}

void main()
{
  Variant c = 10;
  a(c); // Error
}

Need more sugar.


Two problems:

1.) Variant is library defined, compared to the language level 
there isn't a default strategy to choose int32 here, it could be 
also, short, long, unsigned ... not to mention all the alias this 
types.
Though it may be possible to define a default strategy but part 
of the problem is how to tell D to init the type parameters 
appropriately.


2.) c is mutable, what is if you return c and assign other values 
of other types to it?
Determining all possibilities by traversing following assignments 
leads to global type inference which no one would ever want to 
have especially with support of subtyping.


A more natural conclusion would be to infer c to the most common 
supertype as other inferences would unnecessarily exclude future 
assignments to c.  But the most common supertype doesn't seem to 
exist, and I'm unsure if this type can be modeled at all in D?





Re: Why D functions paramter can not implicit infer type of Variant?

2021-01-13 Thread Ali Çehreli via Digitalmars-d-learn

On 1/13/21 8:17 AM, Marcone wrote:

> import std;
>
> void a(int b){
> }
>
> void main()
> {
>Variant c = 10;
>a(c); // Error
> }
>
> Need more sugar.

That can't work in a strongly statically typed language. The call a(c) 
is decided at compile time but Variant is not an int at compile time.


It could only work if Variant were a user-defined type that had an 
automatic conversion to int with 'alias this'.


Ali



Why D functions paramter can not implicit infer type of Variant?

2021-01-13 Thread Marcone via Digitalmars-d-learn

import std;

void a(int b){
}

void main()
{
  Variant c = 10;
  a(c); // Error
}

Need more sugar.