[digitalradio] APRS: Findu..NO, DB0ANF ..yes

2009-01-31 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Hmmm, I just put my mobile APRS station via Kenwood D700A back on air.
 Findu.com displays me as in Japan  ( Position of K3UK --- 2.8 miles
southwest of TOKYO, JAPAN --- Report received 33 minutes 48 seconds
ago  ) BUT DB0ANF's site has me correctly among the snow piles in
western NY.

K3UK
2009-01-31 16:21:38 VE3SME 42.25.93N 079.20.34W FN02HK 24 2 N 197 52
25 NNE 3494 244 

  Some wrong with findu.com ?

Andy




RE: [digitalradio] Further testing with ALE400

2009-01-31 Thread John Bradley
FYI

VE5GPM has an excessively long feedline (about 300ft) due to it's location
in a Government office building. The antenna right now is an all band trap
at about 30M. The receive over there is not great compared to my own station
also running a dipole.

 

we have found another route, and the plan is to do some antenna work in the
spring, when the snow goes. 

 

Am around tonight so if you want to try VE5MU on 80M , email me and I'll
move. 

 

GPM is on 3592, VE5MU is on 7092 USB both running FAE400

 

John

VE5MU

 

From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Rick W
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:41 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Further testing with ALE400

 

At 0415Z was not able to connect on 40 meters (too close) but with about 
10 watts connected to VE5GPM on 80 meters. I sent some chat text and 
then tried to send a file but no throughput, even when going to 50 
watts. Wondering if something locked up there?

I reconnected at about 0430Z and am currently in process of sending a 
file about 1400 bytes long, but it is taking a long time as there are 
some retries (memory ARQ possibly working to our advantage?). Finished 
after about 8 minutes. With most sound card modes, it would have been 
very difficult to expect accurate transfer of a file of this size.

Any other connections this evening and successful file transfers?

73,

Rick, KV9U
SW Wisconsin

John Bradley wrote:

 Since W1AW is great on both info and QRM , frequencies have been 
 moved. So as of 2200Z Friday,

 

 VE5GPM on 3592.0 USB FAE400

 

 VE5MU on 7092.0 USB FAE400

 

 Will be on these frequencies for the next 12 hours, please try a 
 connect or HFN or QRZ sounding

 

 John

 VE5MU

 
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[digitalradio] ALE400 and 141a messaging

2009-01-31 Thread John Bradley

 For several reasons we did not emulate the full forwarding syntax of the
BBS world, as it really starts to increase the scope as you get into store
 forward.  Once you accept a message, you own it, including communicating
failure back to the initiating session. Big responsibility. So by design
bbslink is stateless. The message handoff either succeeds immediately, or it
fails. And the initiating station knows either way. It's the only safe way,
as there is no guarantee that you will ever be able to reach the sending
station again if the message fails, etc.

We also chose not to duplicate existing messaging infrastructure.
Instead, we decided to focus on leveraging the 3 most common messaging
gateways encountered in the ham world. (SMTP, WL2K, F6FBB/W0RLI) Doing so
bridges networks, rather than fragmenting the amateur community further.
Common message systems are a big win, separate ones slowly die.
(Genie, AOL, Compuserve, Prodigy, teletext, etc)

I am not technically gifted in any way, shape or form. I am heavily involved
in the art of emergency planning and communications plans. 

Let me paint a little scenario for you:

A small community (3000) 100 miles from the nearest major center has been
sideswiped by a twister, and has lost communications with the rest of the
world VHF down, cell towers down and telephone exchange damaged. Fire
EMS and Police have responded, using tactical voice comms systems still
working , or supported by ARES on a wide area 2M repeater
The local hospital, which also house the community ECC (Emergency
Co-ordination Center) has numerous casualties. all responding agencies
require additional materials, and as recovery phase starts, Salvation Army
and Red Cross need to pass health and welfare traffic. 

Tactical voice comms are at 100% capacity by the responding agencies, and
will be close to 100% over the next few operational periods. Other working
systems in the area (ie utilities)are also running close to 100%.

ARES has responded with a command unit which has HF data capability. This
could include a WIFI router so that laptops could be included from the local
EOC. This command unit would work back into an EOC with data and internet
connections. ARES would be tasked with passing text messages, destined both
for the EOC and to other outside agencies and base hospitals. WL2K is an
option , other SMTP sound card modes. at higher speeds would also work,
such as RFSM8000.

What would be our non VHF options? 

John
VE5MU






Re: [digitalradio] APRS: Findu..NO, DB0ANF ..yes

2009-01-31 Thread Tony
Andy,

Just checked my station on Findu and it seems to be ok. I see the packet is 
a few hours old so I'd give it another try.

By the way, the International Space Station is digipeating APRS on 145.825. 
Set your unproto path to RS0ISS-3.

The next pass is at 19:51 (02:51 EST). There are several passes after that:

21:27z
23:03z
00:39z

See http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/ariss/index.cgi for stations.

Tony - K2MO





- Original Message - 
From: Andrew O'Brien k3uka...@gmail.com
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 12:02 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] APRS: Findu..NO, DB0ANF ..yes


 Hmmm, I just put my mobile APRS station via Kenwood D700A back on air.
 Findu.com displays me as in Japan  ( Position of K3UK --- 2.8 miles
 southwest of TOKYO, JAPAN --- Report received 33 minutes 48 seconds
 ago  ) BUT DB0ANF's site has me correctly among the snow piles in
 western NY.

 K3UK
 2009-01-31 16:21:38 VE3SME 42.25.93N 079.20.34W FN02HK 24 2 N 197 52
 25 NNE 3494 244

  Some wrong with findu.com ?

 Andy


 



[digitalradio] Find Andy

2009-01-31 Thread Tony
Andy, 

Looks like your all ok with Findu...

http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?k3uk

Tony - K2MO


Re: [digitalradio] Find Andy

2009-01-31 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
He was not lost
Just a bit misplaced...





































Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 and 141a messaging

2009-01-31 Thread Jose A. Amador

Based on what I know, for SMTP, JNOS may be an option at less than 300 
baud, i.e., 100-110 baud or PAX, using MultiPSK as soundcard modem.

I have not tested any of it yet. I have had no time and possibilities to 
test it so far.

JNOS can use FBB compression or LZW compressed SMTP on any of its radio 
ports using KISS protocol to connect to a TNC.

I ran both FBB and JNOS simultaneously for several years sharing the 
same TNC under MSDOS and Linux, and HF mail using compressed FBB 
protocol or LZW compressed SMTP worked, even when painfully slow, at 300 
baud on a shared forwarding frequency. Even FTP worked (I do not 
remember if it could be compressed as well) on HF.

It is not theoretical. JNOS networking works on HF with the known 300 
baud weaknesses. How well does it work really matters when nothing else 
is available? Certainly, that may be an option in an unconnected scenario.

I have also read some papers (which are not recent ones) mentioning the 
possibility of using JNOS for armed forces communications.

I believe it should be tried out. Configuring JNOS is not easy, it is 
command line oriented and learning its options is a steep process not 
suited for the faint of heart, because along its history, it has been 
developed and maintained by people familiar with Unix, networking and 
text mode consoles in a spartan command line environment.

Working options may be saved in a configuration file that it reads at 
the start up.

One almost miraculous option it has is the maxwait parameter. It limits 
the usual TCPIP exponential backoff to a value of your choice (not 
arbitrary, it basically depends on the signalling speed and channel 
reliability or congestion), indispensable when running TCPIP on a radio 
link and not on a high speed, less noisy, wired environment.

Other TCPIP implementations fail without this kludge, particularly, on 
HF radio. Even Linux with its native TCPIP stack is subject to fail as 
well. JNOS packet stack is better crafted than the Linux AX.25 support.

Alan is right, maybe a kludge between an AX.25 stack and other modes 
could be devised, but it is not simple.

If other sound card modes work at the same speed, why wouldn't PAX or 
slow packet work? APRS has been tested so far with slower than 300 baud 
speeds and has worked, even with the nowadays prevalent bad HF propagation.

Frugality in message content is *INDISPENSABLE*. Compression is your 
friend. In a bandwidth limited radio channel, concise, short, text 
messages are preferable to more voluminous file formats (.doc, .xls, 
.bmp, etc). If that is not acceptable, then, who needs that should 
procure a wideband VSAT link.

73,

Jose, CO2JA

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John Bradley wrote:

 What would be our non VHF options? 
 
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Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 and 141a messaging

2009-01-31 Thread Alan Barrow
John Bradley wrote:
 ARES has responded with a command unit which has HF data capability. This
 could include a WIFI router so that laptops could be included from the local
 EOC. This command unit would work back into an EOC with data and internet
 connections. ARES would be tasked with passing text messages, destined both
 for the EOC and to other outside agencies and base hospitals. WL2K is an
 option , other SMTP sound card modes. at higher speeds would also work,
 such as RFSM8000.

 What would be our non VHF options? 
   
Several answers:

1) It's going to sound like Heresy, but paclink, airmail, and WL2K is
specifically designed for your scenario, works now, and with an SCS P3
modem (expensive  proprietary as it is) is very hard to beat.
Essentially an off the shelf solution.

Laptops, wireless, auto gateway to HF, and to the target recipient over
the HF Horizon.

But there are many who cannot or don't want to play SCS P3 modem. Which
leads to:

2) Your command unit HF control operator (you have one, don't you) takes
the traffic aggregated by the jnos or linux box, and initiates into the 
HFLink system using ALE. Can send direct to an SMTP address, or into the
WL2K system.

Yep, it's a manual cut  paste right now into pc-ale on the sending end,
but it works. And there are some who say all traffic should be hand
entered. (I'm not one of them). PC-ALE has hooks for drop box type
operation, and we have had plans for similar in marsale.

I'm sure this won't satisfy you, but having an HF drop box (in any)
program does not address the local (command unit) end of the handoff.
HFLink.net already delivers message traffic via HF from multiple HW
radios + the ALE variants. Not perfect, I have a nasty bug to chase down
which impacts some multi-line DBM messages, but we are headed there.

3) So you want to bridge two sites not using the internet? Same deal.
There is no restriction that bbslink has to run on the Internet. You can
run it on the local lan in your two command vans. SMTP is SMTP. Your
JNOS instance coresident with bbslink does the handoff/gateway to your
laptops.


4) You dis single line messages quite frequently, but there is lot's of
traffic flying around on APRS. Same concept with ALE AMD's, and we look
to allow interoperation between the two.  AMD's get through when other
stuff does not. Nope, it won't be the proverbial my served agency wants
to send a 600k powerpoint, nothing else is acceptable solution, but
about a zillion 170 character SMS messages are sent in the cellular
system each month. Yep, 90% are kids, but it's a useful medium even with
restrictions.


Nothing in your scenario justifies creating (yet another) ham focused
messaging layer. Between existing JNOS/FBB/WL2K systems plus native SMTP
handoff, ALE/BBSLink can pass traffic in pretty much any scenario.
Again, PC-ALE has rudimentary  message box buried in it, but we've
focused our efforts in other directions.

Taking ownership of a message for future delivery is a serious
commitment. Tools like JNOS, and linux postfix type systems are far
better at implementing  the rules, retries, etc. HF should just be
transport.

What I have spent some design time on is how you could have marsale be
an outbound transport to a sendmail/postfix system. (And possibly JNOS)
But it would still be transport only, a plugin used instead of SMTP
based on rules in the mail system config. It succeeds, or fails. No
in-between. No store  forward on the ALE/bbslink side.

JNOS is an old friend. I was compiling, tweaking, and using Phil Karn's
KA9Q, and then later,  NOS back in the early 80's, and used it as a 56k
packet gateway from my pc  workstation lan starting in '85. There might
even be some of my code/comments buried in there, I'd have to look. It's
the swiss army knife of amateur messaging.

If I were to try to implement an auto forward outbound gateway into the
ALE BBSLink system I'd probably leverage JNOS to aggregate  hand off.

But I have been down the path of trying to make transparent TNC
replacement plug-in using KISS. Lot's of session/link decisions would
have to be made, each with tradeoffs. It's not just connect the dots.
Not impossible, just analysis  design.

If winmor goes into production that may be another alternative. But you
still have to do the session stuff. KISS just sends bytes, initiates
connects, and detects connections. So whether f6fbb, winlink, or
whatever, that has to be addressed.

Have fun,

Alan
km4ba


[digitalradio] Unfamiliar mode...

2009-01-31 Thread Dan McKenzie
I'm listening around 7035 - 7038 khz and hearing
a mode I'm not familiar with. Sounds like some
sort of packet like bursts of a few seconds at a time.
It has a bandwidth of about 125 hz.
I'm running DM780 and it's not supported.

Thanks.

Dan, W9FCC




RE: [digitalradio] ALE400 and 141a messaging

2009-01-31 Thread John Bradley
You are right in that the likely solution would be SCS and Pactor3.

 

The only other thing that we have tried is RFSM8000, developed by Dimitri ,
which has a email gateway built into it, is ARQ and runs on soundcard

 

Nobody in the US is using this on the ham bands at least since it does not
conform to FCC rules as far as speed etc. I don't know if he is still
actively developing the software but what we had worked well but required a
pretty strong signal to work, since the bandwidth is about 3Khz I am sending
a copy of this to Dimitri  to see if he is around still. 

 

I make no apologies for dissing 1 line messages... sure I use SMS myself
regularly for quick questions among family members and friends, but to
pretend that this is a meaningful solution for emergency comms is just plain
crazy. It's fun to use but not much beyond that. If I were sending this
message from an area in Canada out of range of any internet access short of
Sat phone, I couldn't get past the first line.

 

I don't know about the USA, but a number of emergency agencies in other
countries are revisiting HF backup systems for point to point data, since
recent infrastructure failures have proven that our everyday systems are
very vulnerable.  Those involved with health and bioterrorism are
particularly interested.. a number of health agencies and Canada's version
of the Center for Disease Control have HF abilities already.  In fact CDC in
Atlanta has HF 

ALE has a place in all this to establish links and determine the most
useable frequencies, But software like 141A or ALE400 are far more useful
for passing data than the one-liners in PCALE. Now if it had a better
interface to the internet other than a copy and paste routine, so much the
better.

 

I get very frustrated with those who still regard ARES contribution to
emergency comms as tactical voice on VHF or HF. We have that role.am
currently writing an exercise which would use hams as back-up in ambulances
and EMS dispatch over a wide area of rural hospitals and small town EMS
units. I also am frustrated since slowly but surely we are being forced into
Pactor 3 as the only viable and expensive option for what we need .

 

John

VE5MU

 

 

 

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Re: [digitalradio] Unfamiliar mode...

2009-01-31 Thread Mike Blazek
Hi, Dan:

That's PSK125 - it's the EPC PSK125 contest this weekend, which is the 
only time I've heard the mode used.

73,
Mike N5UKZ


Dan McKenzie wrote:

 I'm listening around 7035 - 7038 khz and hearing
 a mode I'm not familiar with. Sounds like some
 sort of packet like bursts of a few seconds at a time.
 It has a bandwidth of about 125 hz.
 I'm running DM780 and it's not supported.

 Thanks.

 Dan, W9FCC

 __


  



Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 and 141a messaging

2009-01-31 Thread Jose A. Amador
Alan Barrow wrote:

 Yes, I understand it works. FBB works OK on HF because once you are
 logged in, it's not that interactive. But you still have 2-3 turnarounds
 before you send the initial message, etc.

FBB protocol has a feature I find very valuable: the Z-modem style 
resume. JNOS had not achieved that until 1.11g or so... about the last I 
used seriously.

 Buried inside the P3 WL2K pactor transfers is a basic F6FBB chat 
 login. 

Yes, I have been able to login to WL2K from FBB using P2 or P3.

 Typically 5-10 seconds to link, get logged in, and sync prior to
 really transferring the messages.  Again, it works, lot's of messaging
 sent this way. But a bit wasteful. Why are you logging in when the
 system already knows who is sending it via your callsign? And you just
 sent the password in the clear on hf, so why bother? Login's are
 wasteful on HF. Lot's of analysis  discussion in this area as well.

That is interesting. I had (and lost) an archive collection of the early 
decisions in packet and BBS's. I learned a lot from that (and have 
forgotten many fine details as well).

 Real answer is a public/private key system. Anything else is wasted time
  bandwidth. Adds no security, and reduces reliability.

I used the JNOS MD5 challenge/response logins. Otherwise, it was false 
security with clear passwords flying on the air.

I am not too familiar with the public/private key systems.

 SMTP over HF is much less efficient  reliable because it has many, many
 turnarounds. 

It is true. But JNOS LZW compressed SMTP fared fairly well in comparison.

 It's designed for a lan with infinite signal to noise
 ratio. :-) short packets, many turnarounds. With more overhead in the
 TCP/IP header than in the data sent.
 
 So in the commercial  military systems, you see TCP/IP spoofing. Eat,
 then recreate the IP headers on the opposite end. Same for SMTP. 

I have never seen that in the ham world. Sounds interesting.

 (just like the trailblazer modems did with UUCP in the old unix days)

I lived that...

 So how do you deal with this using the tools you have? With BBSLink we
 use an FBB command structure, but compress the initiation of sending the
 message into a single file transfer. IE: the command, user ID, etc is
 prepended to the message and processed by bbslink. So no login chat over
 the air, retries, etc.
 
 With HF, you only get so many seconds of decent S/N at times. You don't
 want to waste half of your window getting logged in using a system
 oriented for interactive users.

Certainly. But there is a catch. I have *SUFFERED* receiving a queue 
where the most important mail is not the one I get first. A tricky 
condition that may prove nasty in an emergency. Perhaps it could be 
handy to be offered a set of headers/message sizes to choose. Routinely, 
it should not be necessary, but could be invoked if needed. Something to 
think about. I am not too familiar with WL2K beyond being a user.

 If the message is short enough, it's a single send, then ack back from
 the receiving system. Longer messages do have an ack before the next
 frame is sent, etc. DBM is not perfect, but works, and is a true WW
 standard. (for as much as that means... F6FBB is also a defacto standard
 but there are very many implementation differences in login specifics,
 etc when talking to them programatically.) We'd like to see other
 protocols like FAE, etc leveragable as well.
 
 So could you make JNOS/MSYS work over HF with a kiss modem? Most likely.
 Is that the best way? I think we can do better if we apply ourselves 
 work together. JNOS is certainly a useful tool in the mix. 

I have had a good experience with FBB and JNOS and feel that the 
networking part worked in a fairly decent way. I used MSYS very little 
and liked FBB a lot, I felt it led the race in the early 90's.

I am aware that the limit was not the networking part, but some 
sublayers in layer 1. I did quite a bit of FBB forwarding using my 
PTC-II and it worked wonderfully, with the same radio and using a lot 
less power. At least 10 times better on the average, thruput-wise.

Maybe there is some room for improvement left, but nevertheless, I don't 
feel that the wheel has to be reinvented. Maybe just use more suitable 
tires, or better roller bearings, but reusing what has been proven to 
work.

If the best known is not affordable, don't quit, and use another 
acceptable alternative. The worst is havin no comms at all.

I dared to answer John because if networking and HF are an important 
terms in the equation I would rather use what I know that somehow 
works and not wait until a perfect solution shows up. It will 
eventually show up. Fortunately for us, there are people that strive to 
find better solutions for working systems.

The best is, as far as I know, a SCS pactor controller. But slow packet 
or PAX could be workable solutions for HF.

Would other modes capable of passing a full ASCII alphabet (8 bit words)
work instead of a modem whistling 

Re: [digitalradio] Find Andy

2009-01-31 Thread Andy obrien
Interesting, I do exist.  Maybe it was a web site issue.

Andy


On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote:
 Andy,

 Looks like your all ok with Findu...

 http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?k3uk

 Tony - K2MO

 


Re: [digitalradio] Find Andy

2009-01-31 Thread Tony
Andy, 

 Interesting, I do exist.  Maybe it was a web site issue.

Could be -- seems to be working fine now. 

Tony - K2MO





- Original Message - 
From: Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 11:56 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Find Andy


 Interesting, I do exist.  Maybe it was a web site issue.
 
 Andy
 
 
 On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote:
 Andy,

 Looks like your all ok with Findu...

 http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?k3uk

 Tony - K2MO

 



Re: [digitalradio] Find Andy

2009-01-31 Thread Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey Rochelle
Andy,

When are you most on the air?
I have gotten my shack up and the radio working. I just need to do a test on 
PSK-31 on 20mtrs.
I have seen a number of stations but I can not get any reply. Have listened to 
my outgoing signal and it sounds okay, no ALC on the meter and putting out both 
20 and 50 watts.
Can read most signals. Just want to see if it's getting out okay.

Regards

Kevin, ZL1KFM.
(For others please note the callsign, I am not in the US as some have tried to 
point out to me that I am, as much as I would like to be there I am just not 
there :) )
 
Get Skype and call me for free.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Andy obrien 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 5:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Find Andy


  Interesting, I do exist. Maybe it was a web site issue.

  Andy

  On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote:
   Andy,
  
   Looks like your all ok with Findu...
  
   http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?k3uk
  
   Tony - K2MO
  
   


   

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[digitalradio] Announcing the 5th Annual (2008) Digitalradio Awards :

2009-01-31 Thread Andy obrien
Sorry the announcement is late this year...


Announcing The 5th Annual (2008)  Digitalradio Awards :


Best new Digital Mode : WSPR by Joe Taylor , K1JT . .  Very useful
and robust   super  low power digital mode .


Best New Software:  FL-Digi with NBEMS , great work from Dave and
Skip.  The new aspect refers to the Windows version.  Should be
standard for any RACES/ARES op.  Windows version was on our wish list
for 2008, nice to see it arrive early in the year.


Best Logging Software:  DX Keeper by Dave AA6YQ, , again !  Many
emails received from people again nominating this software.  May have
some competition from the new logger in Ham Radio Deluxe in 2009


Biggest Surprise Of The Year:
1 .  ALE.Yep, I thought it might suffer death in 2008 but users
actually increased and some interesting innovations from the folks at
HFN.  ALE in Multipsk helped a lot.

2.  A updated version of MixW, Nick lives!

3.  Much needed new touches to MMTTY, thanks to Dave AA6YQ.MMTTY
has come a long way from the days when I wrote the first English help
file!  MMTTY, Winwarbler and FSK RTTY make great music together.


Digital Innovations Award 2008 :  Patrick Lindecker  F6CTE and
Multipsk, many innovations in 2008  and plenty of unique capabilities.
 The serious app for the digital mode enthusiast.

Biggest Disappointments Of The Year :
 1. PSK31 Contests:  Over driven signals makes such events
intolerable.  Maybe we have this group to blame since we promoted and
organized most of the first PSK contests back when PSK31 was new.
 2. The demise of Olivia as a routinely heard digital mode..
 3. WSPR QSO Mode.  Not much activity.

The Picaso Award:  Simon Brown HB9DRV .  The addition of SSTV
applications to DM780 and Satellite Tracker to Ham Radio Deluxe are
works of art.

Best Digital Mode Website :  KE7HPV's  Digital spotting page, now
moved to http://www.hamspots.net/30m/ .  Well organized , great auto
spots system, .

Digital Mode Aid - Innovation of the Year :  Philip Gladstone's PSK
Reporter .  Integrated with DM780, this tool is one of the most useful
for those days when you wonder if you are getting out!Find it at
http://www.hamspots.net/30m/  or within DM780.

Experimenter Of The Year :
Tony K2MO  :  Still playing with digital voice and finding time to
test path simulations for all common digital modes.

Lost in 2008 Cesco HB9TLK , where is this key digital mode developer?

Oddest Mode in 2008:  MFTTY .  Phone freaking back in vogue?

Needs Inventing in 2009 :

1.  Windows Version of PSKmail
2.  New codec for FDMDV
3   Easy to use/build software based automatic over driven signal
control . PSK bands are painful to listen to !


Most Anticipated Event in 2009: Release of WINMOR




These annual awards are based on suggestions from the over 3000
members of Digitalradio , the world's leading digital mode discussion
group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ ) since 2000.  The
final awards are determined by Andy K3UK


[digitalradio] Soundcard Tuner for Programs - Wanted.

2009-01-31 Thread Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey Rochelle
Hi All,

I believe I saw a small program out there that would allow you to set the 
different levels for a soundcard for different software packages.
The problem I have is I am running HRD with DM-780, MMSSTV and MMTTY, and each 
of these have slightly different soundcard settings for RX and TX, but mainly 
the TX side.
For one setting I get either too much or too little drive to the radio.
I understand this program will let me set the different levels for each program.

Regards for your help

Kevin, ZL1KFM.

 
Get Skype and call me for free.

 
 

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[digitalradio] Re: Soundcard Tuner for Programs - Wanted.

2009-01-31 Thread Dave Bernstein
QuickMix 

http://www.ptpart.co.uk/quickmix/

 73,

 Dave, AA6YQ


--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey 
 Rochelle spar...@... wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 I believe I saw a small program out there that would allow you to 
set the different levels for a soundcard for different software 
packages.
 The problem I have is I am running HRD with DM-780, MMSSTV and 
MMTTY, and each of these have slightly different soundcard settings 
for RX and TX, but mainly the TX side.
 For one setting I get either too much or too little drive to the 
radio.
 I understand this program will let me set the different levels for 
each program.
 
 Regards for your help
 
 Kevin, ZL1KFM.
 
  
 Get Skype and call me for free.





Re: [digitalradio] Re: Soundcard Tuner for Programs - Wanted.

2009-01-31 Thread Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey Rochelle
Dave,

Thanks, just what I need, will make a file for each program

Regards

Kevin, ZL1KFM.
Bands seem dead here at the moment.
 
Get Skype and call me for free.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Dave Bernstein 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 8:39 PM
  Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Soundcard Tuner for Programs - Wanted.


  QuickMix 

  http://www.ptpart.co.uk/quickmix/

  73,

  Dave, AA6YQ

  --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey 
   Rochelle spar...@... wrote:
  
   Hi All,
   
   I believe I saw a small program out there that would allow you to 
  set the different levels for a soundcard for different software 
  packages.
   The problem I have is I am running HRD with DM-780, MMSSTV and 
  MMTTY, and each of these have slightly different soundcard settings 
  for RX and TX, but mainly the TX side.
   For one setting I get either too much or too little drive to the 
  radio.
   I understand this program will let me set the different levels for 
  each program.
   
   Regards for your help
   
   Kevin, ZL1KFM.
   
   
   Get Skype and call me for free.
  



   

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