[digitalradio] Need your help picking HF radio.

2009-12-25 Thread kd7jeh
Merry Christmas to the Group,

I am looking to buy another HF radio for PSK/digital.  I am asking what 
features I look for and why.  Next question, what radio offers more bang for 
the money and why? 

I would like to buy new but will consider a used one of older model not in 
current production.

Kd7jeh 




[digitalradio] Re: Need your help picking HF radio.

2009-12-25 Thread obrienaj

The TS2000 has lots of bang for the buck, HF, 2M, 6M, 70 cm, IF DSP.  The TS480 
has been labeled by some here as the best radio for digital modes. Icom746 
Pro has good reviews.  Icom 7000 also.

Features, I am no expert in this area,but ability to control or at least 
turn off/on the AGC is important for digital modes.  This helps reduce the 
problems associated with strong nearby signals using digital modes.  Ability to 
easily dial in narrow filters while in USB (not just CW) also helps with 
digital mode QRM. 

Andy K3UK

  
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, kd7jeh kd7...@... wrote:

 Merry Christmas to the Group,
 
 I am looking to buy another HF radio for PSK/digital.  I am asking what 
 features I look for and why.  Next question, what radio offers more bang for 
 the money and why? 
 
 I would like to buy new but will consider a used one of older model not in 
 current production.
 
 Kd7jeh





[digitalradio] dummies guide

2009-12-25 Thread David Michael Gaytko // WD4KPD
hi andy

looking forward to a PSKREPORTER/MULTIPSK
FOR DUMMIES.

any plans ?

david/wd4kpd


Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital

2009-12-25 Thread Rik van Riel
On 12/15/2009 12:55 PM, Gary wrote:
 I thought I'd run something up the flagpole and see if anyone salutes:

 I would imagine, the license limitations would have to state something like a 
 maximum of 300 baud and 500 Hz bandwidth with a 200 watt power limit.  There 
 may be other limitations that might be nice to toss into the mix but this is 
 a starting point for discussion.

IIRC the Tech license pool does not include all the questions about
RF safety, nor about use of the ALC, etc...

I believe the power limit and frequencies HF use by Tech licensed
amateurs should be low.  Maybe 10-20W power limit, in a few limited
frequency ranges (staying away from the most crowded bands).

I could see adding 30m digital privileges to Tech, maybe 80m too,
but 20, 40 and 15m already have too many people who don't know
their what their ALC readout means :)

-- 
All rights reversed.


Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital

2009-12-25 Thread DANNY DOUGLAS
I do not understand the instance of 200 or more watts.  Most gear made in the 
past, and even the majority of rigs made today, run 100 watts.  Lets keep it to 
that, or lower, to avoid pushing everyone into thinking they need an amp for 
digital modes.  It becomes a rat race, with the biggest rat wanting the highest 
power, and then still leaving off those who have neither the money, nor the QTH 
where an amp could be use .  Level the playing field for these guys and dont 
encourage them to use more power than necessary to make a QSO.


Danny Douglas
N7DC
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Rik van Riel 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Cc: Gary 
  Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 5:17 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Techs on HF digital



  On 12/15/2009 12:55 PM, Gary wrote:
   I thought I'd run something up the flagpole and see if anyone salutes:

   I would imagine, the license limitations would have to state something like 
a maximum of 300 baud and 500 Hz bandwidth with a 200 watt power limit. There 
may be other limitations that might be nice to toss into the mix but this is a 
starting point for discussion.

  IIRC the Tech license pool does not include all the questions about
  RF safety, nor about use of the ALC, etc...

  I believe the power limit and frequencies HF use by Tech licensed
  amateurs should be low. Maybe 10-20W power limit, in a few limited
  frequency ranges (staying away from the most crowded bands).

  I could see adding 30m digital privileges to Tech, maybe 80m too,
  but 20, 40 and 15m already have too many people who don't know
  their what their ALC readout means :)

  -- 
  All rights reversed.


  

[digitalradio] Need your help picking HF radio.

2009-12-25 Thread Alan Wilson
I'd have to go with the Yaesu ft-857D, it does it all with a small 
footprint, reasonable price and very dependable...73, es merry 
christmas...Alan


RE: [digitalradio] Re: Need your help picking HF radio.

2009-12-25 Thread Rod Lane
I'm having more fun on HF than I've ever had before since I bought the
Flex-3000 radio.  I don't think I can go back to a conventional HF rig.
With this much control and display, it's like looking at the HF spectrum out
a picture window instead of through a keyhole.
http://www.flex-radio.com/Products.aspx?topic=F3k_features 

 

I've done PSK, and DRM easily with the 3000.  It's not as cheap as some of
the other rigs, but LOTS of bang for the buck.  You might even think to use
the 3000 as your main rig and use the conventional rig for PSK.

 

73, N1FNE

 

From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of obrienaj
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 1:04 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Need your help picking HF radio.

 

  


The TS2000 has lots of bang for the buck, HF, 2M, 6M, 70 cm, IF DSP. The
TS480 has been labeled by some here as the best radio for digital modes.
Icom746 Pro has good reviews. Icom 7000 also.

Features, I am no expert in this area, but ability to control or at least
turn off/on the AGC is important for digital modes. This helps reduce the
problems associated with strong nearby signals using digital modes. Ability
to easily dial in narrow filters while in USB (not just CW) also helps with
digital mode QRM. 

Andy K3UK

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com
, kd7jeh kd7...@... wrote:

 Merry Christmas to the Group,
 
 I am looking to buy another HF radio for PSK/digital. I am asking what
features I look for and why. Next question, what radio offers more bang for
the money and why? 
 
 I would like to buy new but will consider a used one of older model not in
current production.
 
 Kd7jeh




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Re: [digitalradio] Need your help picking HF radio.

2009-12-25 Thread Tim N9PUZ
I don't know if it's the ultimate or not but I'm very happy with my 
nearly 1 year old Icom IC-7200.

It is fairly compact and has IF level DSP. Probably the nicest digital 
mode feature though is the radio has it's own sound card circuitry. You 
connect from your computer to the USB port built into the radio and load 
the driver. After that the single USB connection carries all of the 
radio control commands (CIV) and the audio information to and from the 
rig. Leaves your computer's sound card available for other things.

73,

Tim, N9PUZ


Re: [digitalradio] Need your help picking HF radio.

2009-12-25 Thread Phil Barnett
On Fri, 2009-12-25 at 15:46 +, kd7jeh wrote:
 Merry Christmas to the Group,
 
 I am looking to buy another HF radio for PSK/digital.  I am asking
 what features I look for and why.  Next question, what radio offers
 more bang for the money and why? 
 
 I would like to buy new but will consider a used one of older model
 not in current production.

Definitely consider one with a digital IF section. That gives you the
maximum filtering possibilities without buying a bunch of filters. It's
great when you can narrow your filter down to 50 hz and pick out a
single PSK-31 stream. An added bonus is if the rigs AGC is derived after
the digital filtering.

I know the IC-746pro can do this and I'm sure there are many more that
can, such as the IC-756proIII.

It's a huge feature for digital work.



Re: [digitalradio] Need your help picking HF radio.

2009-12-25 Thread mikea
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 11:07:39AM -0700, Alan Wilson wrote:
 I'd have to go with the Yaesu ft-857D, it does it all with a small 
 footprint, reasonable price and very dependable.

+1

Make sure it's the 857D, not the base FT-857; some of the base 857s have
a problem with runaway oscillation on 6m, as I found out the hard way,
but I've never had a problem with my 857D. 

If you get the optional all-in-1 hand mike, you can control everything
on the radio except squelch level with the mike.

The FT-857D works very well with Ham Radio Deluxe and with MixW, too. 

If you are willing to spend a bit more, you can get the FT-897D, bit
brother to the FT-857D. The menu system is very similar, it can use that 
same all-in-1 hand mike, and you can run it through HRD and MixW, too. 

Both radios use the same programming software, too. Nice rigs. 

-- 
Mike Andrews, W5EGO
mi...@mikea.ath.cx
Tired old sysadmin