[digitalradio] Re: K3UK gone over to the dark side...
Andy, Iam new to Winmor and my interest is for local EMCOMM to support the hospital systems. I have been using RMS express for a week or so and I have successfully connected to K3UK-5 a couple of times from Western MD. Sorry I don't have details on the connects, but thanks for the station being out there. 73 de N7NMS Mike --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien k3uka...@... wrote: OK, I did it. No, I have not become a Pactor III BBS but I have set up a 24/7 WINMOR Winlink 2000 server station with busy detect active at the server end preventing my response to a connect request if the frequency is busy.. This station will use 500 Hz Winmor. The first couple of stations connecting to the server (K3UK-5) all passed traffic to the CMS server OK.I need to study frequencies more and make sure that I eventually choose frequencies that make sense . During the next few days I will test on 0500 to 1400 on USB 3584.5 (dial 3583). 1400-1600 USB 7084.8 (dial 7083.3) 1600-0100 USB 28125 dial 2100-0500 USB 7084.8 (dial 7083.3) 10M is NOT a mistake. There are no servers on 10M and I hope to test this out some more. I may also try 6M. To use the server, you need RMS express software, which is free. You also need a soundcard (and radio!) I've tried PSKmail , ALE400, and 300 baud packet Pbbs over the past few months. PSKMAIL is VERY good but the Linux requirement for the server operations was more than i was willing to mess around with. So, I will give the WINMOR winlink server a try for the next 90 days and then evaluate how utilized it is. This will also give me a great opportunity to fully study the busy detect features that appear to work quite well at the moment.
[digitalradio] Re: Busy detect screenshot for Winmor
I see that these at least, 14075.3 14075.9 are also used by JT65-HF and JT8. I haven't checked the others in you list. Jon --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien k3uka...@... wrote: Skip et al, Settling on a sensible list of frequencies will take some studying FYI.. Here is a list of specific frequencies used by Winlink HF stations, May 2010 list. Many have multiple stations using the particular frequency. The list is world-wide. 3565 3569 3580 3583.5 3587.2 3589 3590 3591 3591.5 3592.5 3593 3593.5 3595 3595.9 3596 3598 3603 3604.5 3605 3608.5 3611.9 3613 3613.5 3615 3617.5 3620.2 3624.3 3627.7 3643 7035.4 7036.9 7037 7038.7 7040.9 7043 7043.5 7043.9 7046.7 7049 7050 7051 7051.4 7051.5 7052.5 7053 7063.9 7065.9 7066.9 7067.9 7068.3 7068.9 7069.5 7070.9 7071.9 7074.9 7075 7075.4 7076.9 7090.5 7091 7092 7094 7096.5 7098.5 7101.2 7101.7 7101.9 7103.5 7103.7 7104.4 7107 10110 10116.2 10118.5 10122.9 10127 10127.9 10133.9 10135.4 10136.9 10138 10139.5 10140 10141 10141.2 10142 10142.7 10143.4 10143.7 10144 10144.5 10145 10145.5 10145.9 10146.2 10146.5 10147.5 10147.7 10148.2 10148.5 14062 14064 14064.9 14065.9 14066.9 14068.9 14069.4 14074.9 14075.3 14075.9 14088.2 14089 14094.9 14095.9 14096.2 14097.5 14098.5 14098.7 14101.7 14102.4 14102.7 14103 14104.2 14105 14106 14106.7 14107.4 14108.5 14108.9 14109.2 14110 14110.4 14111 14111.9 14112 14112.4 14112.5 14113.5 14114 14115 14115.5 14117.9 14124 14127.5 18075.4 18097 18100.9 18101.9 18102.9 18106.2 18106.5 18106.7 18106.9 18107 18107.9 18108 18111 18113.8 18116.5 18124 18126.5 21074.9 21075.4 21091.2 21098 21098.7 2 21117.9 21122.5 21126.5 21183 21298.7 24939 28133 On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Dave AA6YQ aa...@... wrote: +++ More AA6YQ comments below -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of KH6TY Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 7:02 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Busy detect screenshot for Winmor Its my impression that the WinMOR busy frequency detector has been well-characterized as effective (going back to its original deployment in SCAMP), so its not clear to me why more evaluation is required.
Re: [digitalradio] Re: K3UK gone over to the dark side...
You are most welcome Mike I see you in my log N7NMS, 2010/06/28 01:04:59, I am employed by a hospital system and serve on their Disaster Preparedness Committee, so I will be interested in your efforts too. Andy K3UK On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Mike n7...@yahoo.com wrote: Andy, Iam new to Winmor and my interest is for local EMCOMM to support the hospital systems. I have been using RMS express for a week or so and I have successfully connected to K3UK-5 a couple of times from Western MD. Sorry I don't have details on the connects, but thanks for the station being out there. 73 de N7NMS Mike --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien k3uka...@... wrote: OK, I did it. No, I have not become a Pactor III BBS but I have set up a 24/7 WINMOR Winlink 2000 server station with busy detect active at the server end preventing my response to a connect request if the frequency is busy.. This station will use 500 Hz Winmor. The first couple of stations connecting to the server (K3UK-5) all passed traffic to the CMS server OK. I need to study frequencies more and make sure that I eventually choose frequencies that make sense . During the next few days I will test on 0500 to 1400 on USB 3584.5 (dial 3583). 1400-1600 USB 7084.8 (dial 7083.3) 1600-0100 USB 28125 dial 2100-0500 USB 7084.8 (dial 7083.3) 10M is NOT a mistake. There are no servers on 10M and I hope to test this out some more. I may also try 6M. To use the server, you need RMS express software, which is free. You also need a soundcard (and radio!) I've tried PSKmail , ALE400, and 300 baud packet Pbbs over the past few months. PSKMAIL is VERY good but the Linux requirement for the server operations was more than i was willing to mess around with. So, I will give the WINMOR winlink server a try for the next 90 days and then evaluate how utilized it is. This will also give me a great opportunity to fully study the busy detect features that appear to work quite well at the moment.
Re: [digitalradio] Busy detect screenshot for Winmor
Thanks Skip. primary mission is for regional access. So far that has turned out to be the case, stations within a few hundred miles. I'm also paying around with 10M ground wave to see what results are. 6M may also be tested. Andy K3UK On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 7:00 AM, KH6TY kh...@comcast.net wrote: Andy, the reason there are multiple stations is that every station on a frequency is not on at the same time. This is why busy detectors can work as a sharing mechanism. The busy detector make you wait until the traffic on the frequency has been passed and you can use the frequency. The reason there are multiple bands is for a similar reason, and also to accomodate propagation. If you want to have your mailbox always reachable, you obviously need to scan multiple frequencies and multiple bands. The whole point of busy detectors is SHARING frequencies on a first-come-first-served basis. Otherwise, if there is always a clear frequency, all the time, the busy detector is not needed. A Winlink station may start out at the highest speed level, but usually cannot maintain throughput and has to drop down, which releases the top half of the channel, because the bandwidth decreases at the same time. At least I think that is the way it works. I stand corrected if it is not. Stations using 500 Hz Winmor should use narrow IF filters so a Pactor-III station on the same channel does not block your access. I have not counted the number of US and Canadian stations in Winlink recently, but there used to be about 50 stateside, and the idea, and we use this for MARS, is that if propagation is not favorable for a local server, one farther away may be accessible. It does not matter, since the Internet ties all of the servers together and you can retrieve your email from any that you can access. My experience with Winlink was that I almost always had to connect with a station in New England (from Charleston, SC!) because of propagation or more locally PMBO's being busy (or not answering because they were busy on a secondary frequency or band). I assume you are not trying to be a Winlink network with your single station in New York state, so this eliminates the need to be accessed internationally, or by yachts far offshore. You probably need to first define what your station mission is going to be and start from there. 73, Skip KH6TY
[digitalradio] QRM maker on 14.078 CF
Hi all DK4XI-20 has changed from 14.078 CF to 14.091 CF. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar On 26.06.2010 21:27, Steinar Aanesland wrote: Hi Jon The jammer on 14.078 is DK4XI-20 . This PSKmail server is operated by DK4XI. Rolf Behnke. Email: dl0...@intermar-ev.de He has not responded to my complain. LA5VNA Steinar
RE: [digitalradio] Busy detect
I am all for busy detect. That being said what do you do with someone that has so much hate for Pactor (like KC7GNM ) that they turn to QRM'ing jamming or what ever you would like to call it any time they hear it? Right now the only tools that I have for busy detect for others modes is my ears and the LED's on the TNC. John, W0JAB
FW: FW: [digitalradio] Re: QRM maker on 14.078 CF
-Original Message- From: Rolf Behnke [mailto:dl0...@intermar-ev.de] Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 10:37 AM To: les...@veenstras.com Subject: Re: FW: [digitalradio] Re: QRM maker on 14.078 CF Hallo sorry, wir haben qsy gemacht auf 14.090khz USB Dial wie im Bandplan 14089 - 14099 500 Schmalband-S. Digimodes, autom. digitale Stationen der IARU vorgesehen für Schmalbandstationen automatisch. (PSKmail ist 250Hz breit!!! http://www.oevsv.at/opencms/funkbetrieb/HF-Bandplan/20m_bandplan.html 73 Rolf DK4XI
Re: [digitalradio] Busy detect
complaint with FCC.Also ask t...@arrl.net On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 3:23 PM, John Becker, WØJAB w0...@big-river.netwrote: I am all for busy detect. That being said what do you do with someone that has so much hate for Pactor (like KC7GNM ) that they turn to QRM'ing jamming or what ever you would like to call it any time they hear it? Right now the only tools that I have for busy detect for others modes is my ears and the LED's on the TNC. John, W0JAB http://www.obriensweb.com/digispotter.html Chat, Skeds, and Spots all in one (resize to suit) Facebook= http://www.facebook.com/pages/digitalradio/123270301037522 Yahoo! Groups Links
[digitalradio] Re: QRM maker on 14.078 CF
Thank you for the information, Steiner. Glad the QRM QSYed. Also during that weekend contest, it was impossible to use JT65 anywhere near to 14.0780 ! Jon --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland saa...@... wrote: Hi all DK4XI-20 has changed from 14.078 CF to 14.091 CF. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar On 26.06.2010 21:27, Steinar Aanesland wrote: Hi Jon The jammer on 14.078 is DK4XI-20 . This PSKmail server is operated by DK4XI. Rolf Behnke. Email: dl0...@... He has not responded to my complain. LA5VNA Steinar
Re: [digitalradio] Re: K3UK gone over to the dark side...
Andy, Why can't you use Winmor with RMS HF? According to Steve K4CJX you have to have the $1000 modem. I'm new to this and he did't explain why. 73de Mike N7NMS From: Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, June 28, 2010 6:59:54 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: K3UK gone over to the dark side... You are most welcome Mike I see you in my log N7NMS, 2010/06/28 01:04:59, I am employed by a hospital system and serve on their Disaster Preparedness Committee, so I will be interested in your efforts too. Andy K3UK On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Mike n7...@yahoo. com wrote: Andy, Iam new to Winmor and my interest is for local EMCOMM to support the hospital systems. I have been using RMS express for a week or so and I have successfully connected to K3UK-5 a couple of times from Western MD. Sorry I don't have details on the connects, but thanks for the station being out there. 73 de N7NMS Mike --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, Andy obrien k3uka...@... wrote: OK, I did it. No, I have not become a Pactor III BBS but I have set up a 24/7 WINMOR Winlink 2000 server station with busy detect active at the server end preventing my response to a connect request if the frequency is busy.. This station will use 500 Hz Winmor. The first couple of stations connecting to the server (K3UK-5) all passed traffic to the CMS server OK. I need to study frequencies more and make sure that I eventually choose frequencies that make sense . During the next few days I will test on 0500 to 1400 on USB 3584.5 (dial 3583). 1400-1600 USB 7084.8 (dial 7083.3) 1600-0100 USB 28125 dial 2100-0500 USB 7084.8 (dial 7083.3) 10M is NOT a mistake. There are no servers on 10M and I hope to test this out some more. I may also try 6M. To use the server, you need RMS express software, which is free. You also need a soundcard (and radio!) I've tried PSKmail , ALE400, and 300 baud packet Pbbs over the past few months. PSKMAIL is VERY good but the Linux requirement for the server operations was more than i was willing to mess around with. So, I will give the WINMOR winlink server a try for the next 90 days and then evaluate how utilized it is. This will also give me a great opportunity to fully study the busy detect features that appear to work quite well at the moment.
[digitalradio] Re: K3UK gone over to the dark side...
Mike, I think you may have misread something. I can use Winmor with RMS, it is working VERY nicely. I do not have a modem for pactor but Winmor suits me fine. Andy K3UK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Mike Liller n7...@... wrote: Andy, Why can't you use Winmor with RMS HF? According to Steve K4CJX you have to have the $1000 modem. I'm new to this and he did't explain why. 73de Mike N7NMS From: Andy obrien k3uka...@... To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, June 28, 2010 6:59:54 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: K3UK gone over to the dark side...  You are most welcome Mike  I see you in my log N7NMS, 2010/06/28 01:04:59, I am employed by a hospital system and serve on their Disaster Preparedness Committee, so I will be interested in your efforts too. Andy K3UK On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Mike n7...@yahoo. com wrote:  Andy, Iam new to Winmor and my interest is for local EMCOMM to support the hospital systems. I have been using RMS express for a week or so and I have successfully connected to K3UK-5 a couple of times from Western MD. Sorry I don't have details on the connects, but thanks for the station being out there. 73 de N7NMS Mike --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, Andy obrien k3ukandy@ wrote: OK, I did it. No, I have not become a Pactor III BBS but I have set up a 24/7 WINMOR Winlink 2000 server station with busy detect active at the server end preventing my response to a connect request if the frequency is busy.. This station will use 500 Hz Winmor. The first couple of stations connecting to the server (K3UK-5) all passed traffic to the CMS server OK. I need to study frequencies more and make sure that I eventually choose frequencies that make sense . During the next few days I will test on 0500 to 1400 on USB 3584.5 (dial 3583). 1400-1600 USB 7084.8 (dial 7083.3) 1600-0100 USB 28125 dial 2100-0500 USB 7084.8 (dial 7083.3) 10M is NOT a mistake. There are no servers on 10M and I hope to test this out some more. I may also try 6M. To use the server, you need RMS express software, which is free. You also need a soundcard (and radio!) I've tried PSKmail , ALE400, and 300 baud packet Pbbs over the past few months. PSKMAIL is VERY good but the Linux requirement for the server operations was more than i was willing to mess around with. So, I will give the WINMOR winlink server a try for the next 90 days and then evaluate how utilized it is. This will also give me a great opportunity to fully study the busy detect features that appear to work quite well at the moment.
Re: [digitalradio] Re: K3UK gone over to the dark side...
Andy Is it RMS Express or another app? Sent from my U.S. Cellular BlackBerry® smartphone -Original Message- From: obrienaj k3uka...@gmail.com Sender: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 00:20:17 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: K3UK gone over to the dark side... Mike, I think you may have misread something. I can use Winmor with RMS, it is working VERY nicely. I do not have a modem for pactor but Winmor suits me fine. Andy K3UK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Mike Liller n7...@... wrote: Andy, Why can't you use Winmor with RMS HF? According to Steve K4CJX you have to have the $1000 modem. I'm new to this and he did't explain why. 73de Mike N7NMS From: Andy obrien k3uka...@... To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, June 28, 2010 6:59:54 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: K3UK gone over to the dark side...  You are most welcome Mike  I see you in my log N7NMS, 2010/06/28 01:04:59, I am employed by a hospital system and serve on their Disaster Preparedness Committee, so I will be interested in your efforts too. Andy K3UK On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Mike n7...@yahoo. com wrote:  Andy, Iam new to Winmor and my interest is for local EMCOMM to support the hospital systems. I have been using RMS express for a week or so and I have successfully connected to K3UK-5 a couple of times from Western MD. Sorry I don't have details on the connects, but thanks for the station being out there. 73 de N7NMS Mike --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, Andy obrien k3ukandy@ wrote: OK, I did it. No, I have not become a Pactor III BBS but I have set up a 24/7 WINMOR Winlink 2000 server station with busy detect active at the server end preventing my response to a connect request if the frequency is busy.. This station will use 500 Hz Winmor. The first couple of stations connecting to the server (K3UK-5) all passed traffic to the CMS server OK. I need to study frequencies more and make sure that I eventually choose frequencies that make sense . During the next few days I will test on 0500 to 1400 on USB 3584.5 (dial 3583). 1400-1600 USB 7084.8 (dial 7083.3) 1600-0100 USB 28125 dial 2100-0500 USB 7084.8 (dial 7083.3) 10M is NOT a mistake. There are no servers on 10M and I hope to test this out some more. I may also try 6M. To use the server, you need RMS express software, which is free. You also need a soundcard (and radio!) I've tried PSKmail , ALE400, and 300 baud packet Pbbs over the past few months. PSKMAIL is VERY good but the Linux requirement for the server operations was more than i was willing to mess around with. So, I will give the WINMOR winlink server a try for the next 90 days and then evaluate how utilized it is. This will also give me a great opportunity to fully study the busy detect features that appear to work quite well at the moment.
Re: [digitalradio] Re: K3UK gone over to the dark side...
The CLIENT software is RMS Express which allows a user to select WINMOR access via HF to the Winlink 2000 servers OR use a Telnet Internet access to the servers. It also provides a peer to peer option, using Winmor. Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Re: K3UK gone over to the dark side...
Andy, That's what i'm using. I meant the server side. I want to run RMS Relay so that I can gateway VHF Packet to HF winlink if the internet is down and for that you need a PactorIII modem. Are you using RMS HF for the server? I'm trying to figure out how to run something like RMS Relay but use Winmor on the HF side and have the store and forward from VHF Packet to HF. 73 Mike From: Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, June 28, 2010 8:30:20 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: K3UK gone over to the dark side... The CLIENT software is RMS Express which allows a user to select WINMOR access via HF to the Winlink 2000 servers OR use a Telnet Internet access to the servers. It also provides a peer to peer option, using Winmor. Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Re: K3UK gone over to the dark side...
Mike, I have not set up RMS relay yet, probably will in a few days. . Andy K3UK On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Mike Liller n7...@yahoo.com wrote: Andy, That's what i'm using. I meant the server side. I want to run RMS Relay so that I can gateway VHF Packet to HF winlink if the internet is down and for that you need a PactorIII modem. Are you using RMS HF for the server? I'm trying to figure out how to run something like RMS Relay but use Winmor on the HF side and have the store and forward from VHF Packet to HF. 73 Mike -- *From:* Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Mon, June 28, 2010 8:30:20 PM *Subject:* Re: [digitalradio] Re: K3UK gone over to the dark side... The CLIENT software is RMS Express which allows a user to select WINMOR access via HF to the Winlink 2000 servers OR use a Telnet Internet access to the servers. It also provides a peer to peer option, using Winmor. Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Re: K3UK gone over to the dark side...
From what I have read, it only works with a Pactor modem. As far as I know, there is no support for Winmor. Sent from my U.S. Cellular BlackBerry® smartphone -Original Message- From: Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com Sender: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 22:34:46 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: K3UK gone over to the dark side... Mike, I have not set up RMS relay yet, probably will in a few days. . Andy K3UK On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Mike Liller n7...@yahoo.com wrote: Andy, That's what i'm using. I meant the server side. I want to run RMS Relay so that I can gateway VHF Packet to HF winlink if the internet is down and for that you need a PactorIII modem. Are you using RMS HF for the server? I'm trying to figure out how to run something like RMS Relay but use Winmor on the HF side and have the store and forward from VHF Packet to HF. 73 Mike -- *From:* Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Mon, June 28, 2010 8:30:20 PM *Subject:* Re: [digitalradio] Re: K3UK gone over to the dark side... The CLIENT software is RMS Express which allows a user to select WINMOR access via HF to the Winlink 2000 servers OR use a Telnet Internet access to the servers. It also provides a peer to peer option, using Winmor. Andy K3UK
