[digitalradio] AX.25 parameters in MixW 2.19

[Scott Hill]

I have received the email below from Yann Voumard.  If you are able to 
assist him, particularly with specific answers to his questions about 
the AX.25 parameters I am sure he would appreciate it.

Please respond to him DIRECTLY at:  yann.voum...@epfl.ch
He is not a member of this group.

Scott/K6IX

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My name is Yann Voumard and I am an employee at the EPFL Space Center
(space.epfl.ch) in Lausanne, Switzerland. In order to decode the
downlink of our satellite (swisscube.epfl.ch), we use MixW 2.19. I
have found your email address in the help file. I have read the
manual but I am not a qualified radio amateur, so I have a few
questions on a specific topic. If you could answer some of them, it
would be much appreciated.

We use the AX.25 protocol and my concerns are about the parameter tab
of the settings box (Mode > Mode settings… > Parameters). I would like
to know if these settings impact only the transmission or also the
decoding. Could I have a short description of the fields “MaxFrame”
and “PacLen”? By default, the value of “PacLen” is 100 and our
satellite is configured with a maximal size for the I-Field of 256.
Could that impacts the decoding?






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Re: [digitalradio] Super narrow filter: PSK31 with HB9DRV SDR-RADIO

[Scott Hill]

Hi Andy,

Here is a MixW/TS2000 macro that will center the selected signal and 
then reduce the TS2000 bandwidth to about 100 cycles (lines beginning 
with a semicolon are comments and can be removed).

;  move RX to 1000 (center of filter bandwidth)

;  move TX to same place

; turn "packet filter bandwidth ON" (menu 50A)

; set low DSP filter to narrow

; set high DSP filter to 170 Hz


Then full RX bandwidth can be restored with this macro.

; set "Packet Filter" (menu 50A) OFF

; set low cutoff to 100 Hz

; set high cutoff to 2600 Hz


Having to use the "Packet Filter" to do this is weird but it was the 
only way I could find to get the filter down to 100 Hz with CAT.  It 
does cut monster signals down to virtually no interference.

Scott/K6IX

Andy obrien wrote:
> Finally!  When I bought my TS-2000 a couple of years ago, I was aware
> of one criticism for the digital operator  super narrow filtering
> in SSB was not as easy to achieve as in other rigs.
>.
>  I have yet to try this when there  is a monster signal nearby  that
> needs to be nulled out , but I think the results will be good.
> 
> Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] OT WEB HOSTING QUESTION

[Scott Hill]

I've used "Fat Cow" for a couple of years with no problems.  I think 
they have a few site builder options but I've never tried one.

Scott ( k6ix.net )

Bert Morton wrote:
> I am looking for suggestions for a  reliable and reasonable web hosting 
> company to host a simple website for me.
> 
> It would have to include a site builder option as well.
> 
> Thanks, Bert W1DFU 
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Re: [digitalradio] Re: An open letter: W1AW and 80m psk31 interference

[Scott Hill]

Like almost all large organizations with professional management, the 
ARRL has become devoted entirely to the perpetuation of itself. Paid 
public relations people write glowing statements expounding the 
dedication of the group to egalitarian principals, but to properly 
evaluate their motives you have to look at their actions, not their words.

The ARRL is not dedicated to the benefit of Ham Radio, it is dedicated 
to the benefit of the ARRL.

Scott Hill/K6IX

W4AGA wrote:
> Setting aside the misplaced sense of entitlement in that letter,
> there's this from http://www.arrl.org/news/features/2001/08/07/1/
> 

Re: [digitalradio] PSK 10 Years On....

[Scott Hill]

Andy, if you don't get a copy somewhere else send me an email with
your snail mail address, and I will send you the issue.

Scott/K6IX

Andrew O'Brien wrote:
> I hate to admit this, but I forgot to renew my ARRL membership and
> have missed the latest QRZ Magazine.  I am told that the latest
> edition has an article marking the 10th anniversary of Stve Ford's
> article about PSK31.  I remember that article very well, I also
> remember building my first interface and getting active on PSK with
> G3PLX's software.  What a 10 years it has been on the soundcard
> digital modes !
> 
> Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Fwd: [mixw] Major Changes?

[Scott Hill]

History.txt file in program folder lists changes.  Several changes to 
the log file display, new xceivers supported, etc.

Scott/K6IX

Andrew O'Brien wrote:
> -Anyone notice any major changes?  Seems about the same to me.
> 
> Andy K3UK
> 
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Re: [digitalradio] Emergency agencies/ ham equipment/ hams in emcomm

[Scott Hill]

Thank you Andy.  Now you better duck.  You have maligned the sacred 
cow of ham radio.

Scott/K6IX

Andrew O'Brien wrote:
> FYI, my hospital OWNS the ham equipment deployed at the facility.
> ARES/RACES provides operators but we retain ownership of anything we
> paid for out of Govt grants.  I insisted on it , as a hospital
> official, since I know how fickle some hams organizations can be.
> 
> Despite many clearly wonderful stories about how radio amateurs have
> helped in emergency situations, I agree with Simon's earlier thoughts.
>  I  think that much of the "hams in emcomms" is a scam , or a way for
> hams to "play" firefighter/cop/medic without actually having to be
> one.The "scam" is the spreading of the concept that us hams sit
> around all days looking for that ship's SOS or waiting for Skywarn to
> be activated.Ham radio is a communications hobby that has a SMALL
> amount of it;s constituency that play emcomm,. The vast majority DX,
> talk about recent surgery on 75M,  contest,  and decode strange
> squealing noises on 14077.
> 
> Andy K3UK
> 

Re: [digitalradio] SSB mixed with Mixw output?

[Scott Hill]

I just downloaded a trial of MixW and there was nothing disturbing the 
audio.  I do NOT think it is because of MixW being a trial version.

Scott/K6IX

Chuck Mayfield - AA5J wrote:
> Brett Owen Rees VK2TMG wrote:
> 
>> Hi Chuck,
>>
>> The attachment worked ok here for me. The sound seems to be saying 
>> 'trial' in a female voice. It sounds like a piece of applications 
>> software or your driver is doing this. Have you tried killing off 
>> processes using task manager to see if you can isolate what is causing 
>> it?
>>
>> 73,
>> Brett
>>
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>> http://lisp.homeunix.net 
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>>
>> 
>>
> Brett,
> I think it must be encoded in the "Trial" software somewhere.  I hope it 
> will not say "Full" every four seconds if I buy the "Full" version. Hmm?
> What software does everyone use for digital?
> 
> 73, Chuck AA5J
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> (e.g radio dial at 14.077.4 and 1000Hz on your waterfall = 14078.4)
> 
> 20M:   Primary : 14.078.4 Secondary: 14.076.4 
> 
> 30MPrimary:  10.142   Secondary 10.144
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Re: [digitalradio] Regional communications ?

[Scott Hill]

160, 80, 40 meters with almost any kind of wire/dipole antenna.  We 
have a weekly regional net in the Sierra foothills in California on 80 
meters, and never fail to copy everyone on the net.

Scott/K6IX

Andrew O'Brien wrote:
> My entry in to amateur radio was via 10 meters and the quest for DX, I
> had no real interest in "local" communication.  Over the years I have
> had hams ask me to help them set-up their stations for digital mode
> operation and have occasionally resorted to the lower bands in attempt
> to help them.  Often my attempts to communicate with hams in a 10-50
> mile radius has failed.  During darkness, I "skip" over them, and
> during the day-light we can't hear each other.
> 
> I know 10 and 20 meter daylight propagation characteristics like the
> back of my hand,  but  have no clue about what is "normal" for 80 and
> 40M .  It seems odd to me that I would have to rely on 2M repeaters to
> talk to regional hams.  What do others on this list do for regional
> communications on HF?  It would seem to me that the digital modes
> would be ideal for regional use but whenever I get a chance to get
> someone brave enough to leave 2M chatting alone and try a digital mode
> on HF, I can't work 'em to help them get set-up.
> 
> I am familiar with NVIS antennae but do not have a particular NVIS
> installation, I do not have real estate for 160M either.  So what
> bands and "regular" antennas do you use for this ?
> 
> 

Re: [digitalradio] AGC and PSK31

[Scott Hill]

On both of my receivers (ICOM 736 and Kenwood TS-2000), with AGC off, 
reducing the RF gain has almost exactly the same effect as reducing 
the soundcard receive level.

My reading of the article is that turning down the RF gain will reduce 
the "distortion" on a strong signal caused by either the AGC or any 
other receiver source.  I don't see that it implies the reappearance 
of weaker signals.

I do know that with CW you can sometimes reduce the noise some without 
reducing the CW signal by reducing the RF gain.  Other times reducing 
the RF gain just reduces both the noise and the signal by the same amount.

I think that what you want to do, reduce a strong signal only, has to 
come before the RF Gain in the signal processing chain.  I'm not smart 
enough to know where the AGC fits into the chain.

In MixW if you notch a strong signal it seems to bring the weak 
signals back a tiny bit, but not much.  Obviously the MixW notch is at 
the very end of the signal processing chain, to late to help the weak 
signals much.

Scott/K6IX

Andrew O'Brien wrote:
> Thanks Jose and Scott.
> 
> So, my original question was related to my observations were that lowering
> RF gain on my receiver did range of the waterfall.  Apparently this is
> related to AGC circuitry being activated .  On my radio  the disappearance
> of weaker signals from the waterfall when a very strong stations is
> received., does not get improved by turning down the RF gain.  I am making
> an assumption that the improvement reported as a result of turning down the
> RF gain, would lead to the lost weaker signals reappearing on the
> waterfall.  My tests this weekend were not able to replicate this.
> 


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Re: [digitalradio] AGC and PSK31

[Scott Hill]

Andy and the group,

A thousand and one apologies.  I can't even claim a senior moment.  In 
my rush to a knee jerk reaction I misread AGC as ALC and RF gain as RF 
power..  Duuuh!

So, this EHam article is talking about receiving, not transmitting. 
Now the statement makes sense.  The same is true of voice SSB.  The 
only voice I work is a local net on 80 meters.  If I don't turn down 
the RF gain I can't copy the conversation at all.  Since I normally 
use only Digital or CW I keep the AGC turned off.

This writer (in EHam) has a good point, and one to consider when you 
get a bad IMD report from someone.  If your signal is very strong into 
his receiver you might want to ask him to turn down his RF gain and 
take another reading.

Scott/K6IX

Andrew O'Brien wrote:
> On 9/17/06, Scott Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Where did you see that statement Andy? The thing to turn down until
>> you have no AGC is the audio drive from the soundcard, NOT the RF
>> gain. Nothing wrong with turning down the RF gain if you want to run
>> lower power, but that will not get rid of splatter caused by the AGC.
>>
>> Scott/K6IX
>>
>>
> 
> 
> In an article on PSK at Eham...
> 
> 
> RE: The Good Bad and Ugly on PSK31
> by AA4PB on December 12, 2005
> It's the AGC in the receiver that can cause distortion of strong
> signals just like ALC in the transmitter can. A fast AGC action will
> "follow" the amplitude of the PSK31 signal and attempt to level it out
> - that is distortion. A slow AGC action cannot react fast enough to
> "follow" the signal and so will just maintain an average without
> distorting the signal. Turning down the RF gain will reduce the signal
> below the level that causes any (or much) AGC action. Always use your
> slowest AGC setting.
> 
> PSK31 has amplitude changes. Any non-linearity anywhere in the system
> from the transmitter input to the receiver output will cause
> distortion which results in poor IMD readings and wide signals. This
> can be the result of ALC or AGC action or overdriving an amplifier
> anywhere in the system.
> 
> I've done a considerable amount of testing to look at this issue. On
> an IC761 with the AGC set to fast I could have as much as 10dB of IMD
> caused by the AGC with an S-9 signal strength. I measured the output
> of my test transmitter an knew that I was transmitting a clean test
> signal. Switching the AGC to slow, reducing the RF gain to weaken the
> signal, or reducing the signal strength to S2 or S3 would clean up the
> signal.
> 
> For transmit ALC testing I used a K2 because I could easily change
> component values inside the transmitter. I found that with some ALC
> action I could actually see a copy of the PSK31 signal on the ALC line
> and of course the IMD reading at the receiver was poor. By changing
> the ALC decay time (adding a capacitor) the waveform on the ALC line
> went away and the IMD improved considerably. I found that with the
> proper selection of decay time the ALC could be used to level the
> average transmitter output without distorting the PSK31 signal.
> 
> The time constants for most of our receiver AGC and transmitter ALC
> were designed for typical voice signal rather than PSK31.
> 
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Re: [digitalradio] AGC and PSK31

[Scott Hill]

Where did you see that statement Andy?  The thing to turn down until 
you have no AGC is the audio drive from the soundcard, NOT the RF 
gain.  Nothing wrong with turning down the RF gain if you want to run 
lower power, but that will not get rid of splatter caused by the AGC.

Scott/K6IX

Andrew O'Brien wrote:
> "Turning down the RF gain will reduce the signal below the level that
> causes any (or much) AGC action. Always use your slowest AGC setting.
> "
> 
> 
> Can someone explain this statement?  In my radio, with only an "AGC
> FAST/SLOW" option, reducing the RF gain appeared to may no difference
> in reducing the impact of a strong signal and AGC action.
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [digitalradio] unzip stops at 2 percent

[Scott Hill]

Google on "download manager" and find a program which will monitor the 
download and restart it if necessary without going clear back to the 
beginning.  I used the one from Netscape until I got DSL.  Almost all 
of them are free.

Scott Hill, K6IX

doc wrote:
>> after a two hour plus dial up download,[logger32 2,7]
>> I attempted to unzip it, and each timeit wouldstop at
>> 2 percent, any suggestions on how to get it to %100??
>> tnx  ron wa5fbf
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Re: [digitalradio] FYI: RESTRUCTURING: UK GETS NEW BANDPLANS IN 2006

[Scott Hill]

Seems like I see most RTTY on 14.080 - 14.090.  Not much above that 
except contests.

Scott, K6IX

F.R. Ashley wrote:
> 
>>On 20 meters automated data stations are given from 14.089 to 14.099
>>and 14.101 to 14.112 MHz depending on the signals actual spectrum used
>>by the signal.
> 
> 
> 
> Yup, just what we need.   Good job UK, ruin the RTTY freqs.  Where will it 
> all end?
> 
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> Buddy 
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Re: [digitalradio] New MixW reflector

[Scott Hill]

worked fine for me.

Scott, K6IX

Danny Douglas wrote:
> Hmmmthe url comes up in ie with an address "about:blank" and just sits 
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>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Andrew J. O'Brien 
>   To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 12:31 PM
>   Subject: [digitalradio] New MixW reflector
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>   I have started a new "reflector" to discuss all matters related to the 
> multimode software MixW.  You can subscribe via
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>   I used to co-moderator the main MixW  a few years ago.  That group does a 
> good job but is too fussy about what is posted and tightly restricts what it 
> considers to be relevant MixW discussion.  So, I have created an alternative 
> . Please consider joining it.
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Re: [digitalradio] No Messages: FIXED ??????????

[Scott Hill]

I think you fixed it Andy.  Good Job!

Andrew J. O'Brien wrote:
> Good detective work Scott.  I re-set this, it was on MODERATOR for some 
> reason.  It now says MEMBERS...Let me know if this fixes the problem
>   - Original Message ----- 
>   From: Scott Hill 
>   To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 4:36 PM
>   Subject: Re: [digitalradio] No Messages
> 
> 
>   Hi John.  Sorry to see the trouble you are having with Yahoo.  Those 
>   people are not very helpful (if there are any people there).
> 
>   When I clicked on the link you sent out I got an error message which 
>   said "You are not a moderator".
> 
>   Just on the wild chance that you guys had missed it, this is exactly the 
>   behavior you get when you go:
> 
>  Management>Messages>Posting&Archives(edit)>Archives Options
> 
>   and click on the "Moderator" radio button.  I know you are an 
>   experienced moderator, but Yahoo makes it very difficult and confusing 
>   to find and set all the options.
> 
>   Scott Hill, K6IX
> 
> 
> 
>   John Becker wrote:
>   > Jerry that is the problem there is no link on the left to go to
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Re: [digitalradio] No Messages

[Scott Hill]

Hi John.  Sorry to see the trouble you are having with Yahoo.  Those 
people are not very helpful (if there are any people there).

When I clicked on the link you sent out I got an error message which 
said "You are not a moderator".

Just on the wild chance that you guys had missed it, this is exactly the 
behavior you get when you go:

   Management>Messages>Posting&Archives(edit)>Archives Options

and click on the "Moderator" radio button.  I know you are an 
experienced moderator, but Yahoo makes it very difficult and confusing 
to find and set all the options.

Scott Hill, K6IX



John Becker wrote:
> Jerry that is the problem there is no link on the left to go to
> the message page.
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