Re: [digitalradio] HOW TO- Packet Keyboard-to-Keyboard operation?
Mike, I sent you a primer direct, I hope you find it useful 73, Chuck AC5PW From: mikefapex mikefa...@gmail.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 4:47:07 PM Subject: [digitalradio] HOW TO- Packet Keyboard-to-Keyboard operation? Yes, I'm a packet newb. I just got my VHF packet system running (817/Signalink USB/Laptop/AGW/PacTerm) and can connect to a couple of local BBS. But I would like to understand how to actually do a keyboard to keyboard QSO using packet. I assume this does NOT go through a BBS. I've ready about 'keyboard to' but cannot find actual instructions about how to actually go about it. I have a willing friend ham on the other end that will work with me. Eventually I'd like to incorporate PacLink and Thunderbird and make that same keyboard-to-keyboard QSO using the Thunderbird Email client interface. Thanks for any pointers, URLs, docs. Mike
Re: [digitalradio] Anyone For 6 Meter ROS ??
Keith, While ROS is not legal on HF it still is not legal on 6 or 2 meters here in the states, it is legal on 1.25cm and above. Please see Part 97.305 it clearly states where spread spectrum is authorized. This issue has been hashed out on numerous threads and I wouldn't want to put my license on the line for this software. 73, Chuck AC5PW From: n4zq n...@yahoo.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 8:16:19 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Anyone For 6 Meter ROS ?? Here is a response I got from Dan Henderson, N1ND, ARRL Regulatory Information Manager about the legality of ROS here in the states. My question was very simple. Is ROS a legal mode under FCC rules and if not, what would it take to make it so. Here is what Dan had to say. From: dhender...@arrl.org To: n...@hotmail.com Keith ROS is a spread spectrum technique. FCC rules allow Spread Spectrum above 50 MHz. It is not currently legal on the HF bands in the US. There has been quite a controversy about ROS since it was introduced. The original documentation from the developer clearly stated it was SS which was confirmed by the FCC. When the developer was notified SS was not legal in the US below 30 MHz, he changed his documentation then posted a forged email claiming it was from the FCC and that they had changed their opinion. Long story short, it uses a frequency hopping SS technique, regardless of what the author later claimed when the controversy erupted. This was verified by FCC engineers in their labs. Yes, it is a narrow bandwidth SS technique but it is still SS. The FCC would have to change Part 97 in order for it to be allowed on the HF bands in the US. They would either have to amend the rules to allow SS on all amateur bands (something that would probably be strongly opposed because many SS techniques are far wider than this mode and would create major problems on the relatively small HF band allocations) or they would have to specifically approve it for use. That is something that they have not been inclined to do because they do not wish to be constantly adding individual modes as they are developed. They provide a broad framework in the rules for what is allowed or prohibited and the mode either meets those criteria or it doesn't. 73 Dan Henderson, N1ND ARRL Regulatory Information Manager So it is what it is and I wouldn't look forward to being able to use it on HF any time soon here in the good old USA. But it might be a great weak signal mode on 6 meters in this very late E season. Anyone up to beaconing on 50.295 or 144.160 MHz, the frequencies suggested within the program? I'll be on 6 myself... Keith N4ZQ
Re: [digitalradio] New guy
Steve, Welcome to digital communications... Since you live in Louisiana here are a couple of sites that you may want to look at, first the Louisiana section website at www.laarrl.org on the right side of the page is a link for digital communications and has a 6 or 7 part tutorial on digital communications and other technical stuff written in laymens terms, the other is the website for the Baton Rouge area Ham club www.lsu.edu/brarc. There are a lot of folks in the state who can help you out with answers and quite a few in Baton Rouge. I will help you more off line, I live in the Alexandria area so it may be tough for a face to face, unless you come to our Hamfest in October. 73, Chuck AC5PW From: Stephen smyer...@yahoo.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 4:13:01 PM Subject: [digitalradio] New guy Hello all. After being a SWL for several years, a friend willed (he is an SK now) to me his Icom 765. I am intrested in getting into the digital modes. Being new, I don't even know enough to ask the right questions. My wife is in the US Navy and we will retire to the country of Panama. I got my ticket last Feb. but we moved to Baton Rouge and I have nothing set up (except a long wire in the attic). I have had all the gear (IC-765, IC-AT500, IC-2kl and its powersupply) back to a guy who rebuilt and referbished to factory spect. I have found that if you have a ticket, in Panama, they will give you one (of equal rating) so you can operate in their country. Is HRD the program to use, or should I start out with somethig that is more simple? Do I get an outboard sound card? What cables do I need? Any advice will be appreciated. Steve KJ4SLK
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Busy detect screenshot for Winmor
Andy, 97.221 is what you're looking for, The ARRL website has part 97 listed there. 73, Chuck AC5PW From: obrienaj k3uka...@gmail.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, June 27, 2010 8:40:48 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Busy detect screenshot for Winmor Anyone have a reliable link to the FCC required band plan for unattended modes? I have the IARU Region II bandplan but just remembered that it differs, I think, from the FCC. Andy K3UK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien k3uka...@... wrote: I agree Skip and have been studying the unattended sub-bands for suitable frequencies. Andy On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 9:24 AM, KH6TY kh...@... wrote: Thanks, Andy. Unless it is not impossible to disable busy detect, to answer your previous question about where to operate with Winmor, I personally think that Winmor frequencies should ALL be kept within the automatic subbands, since the tendency is going to be to disable it due to the uncertainty if there is malicious blocking or not. This way, busy detect can still be useful in enabling frequency sharing with other Winmor stations, and if someone disables busy detect, the effect on the rest of the hams will not be significant. This brings to mind the edict by Winlink that busy detect must not be enabled because of others trying to harm Winlink. It is highly unlikely that any malicious blocking will be done in the automatic subbands, because there is no reason to do so. The only blocking will be if the frequency is already in use by another mailbox. The recently reported problem with a PSKmail server still interfering with JT65 points up to another reason that ALL mailbox stations need to be in the same area, regardless of bandwidth. The more narrow the bandwidth, the easier it is to find a clear frequency there, so there is still an advantage to using a more narrow bandwidth. The frustration of being blocked too often if operating in the general use areas is, sooner or later, going to result in operator deactivation of the busy detection, especially as more and more Winmor mailboxes are set up. Before things get to that point, I think that it would be wise for early adopters, such as yourself, to set a good example by operating Winmor only in the automatic subbands and using the busy detection feature to more efficiently share frequencies there. 73, Skip KH6TY On 6/27/2010 8:46 AM, Andy obrien wrote: Skip (and anyone else interested), see the attached screenshot showing the Winmor server busy detect Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Neby help with digi modes
And a good one it is... Good job on it Skip.. 73, Chuck AC5PW Once a Marine... ...Always a Marine OOORAHHH ! Saepe Expertus - Semper Fidelis - Fratres Aeterni Often Tested - Always Faithful - Brothers Forever From: KH6TY kh...@comcast.net To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, June 18, 2010 1:31:41 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Neby help with digi modes There is a $19.95 interface kit described on Page 37 of the June QST. 73, Skip KH6TY When it comes to transmitting and receiving, you will need to also connect your transceiver to the computer so that the tones generated by your software and sound card are sent over the air. Thus you have both IN and OUT of your sound card connected to your rig. You can also achieve control of your rig via the software and cause the rig to change frequency, transmit or switch to receive (and a few other things). Do do this, most hams have an interface that goes between the rig and the PC. The interface can be built for about $25 worth of parts, but many hams buy one. These interfaces range from the very simple and effective to the very sophisticated and effective . Some use circuitry that achieves full computer assisted operation and some do do it via simple use of VOX (Signal link). For most operations VOX will be fine but there are some more advanced applications that cannot be used via VOX. Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Narrow SSTV guide on wiki
Who say's you can't teach an old dog new tricks. Thanks Andy, this should be fun. 73, Chuck AC5PW Once a Marine... ...Always a Marine OOORAHHH ! Saepe Expertus - Semper Fidelis - Fratres Aeterni Often Tested - Always Faithful - Brothers Forever From: obrienaj k3uka...@gmail.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, June 1, 2010 5:38:37 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Narrow SSTV guide on wiki My guide to narrow band SSTV suitable for 30M operations is listed in the amateur radio wiki. Useful format. http://amateur-radio-wiki.net/index.php?title=K3UK%27s_Quick_and_Dirty_Guide_to_Narrow_Bandwidth_SSTV Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Multipsk Signalink and Vista
I assume you mean from the audio out on the rig to the signalink. I've sent in a request to join the group Thanks 73, Chuck AC5PW Once a Marine... ...Always a Marine OOORAHHH ! Saepe Expertus - Semper Fidelis - Fratres Aeterni Often Tested - Always Faithful - Brothers Forever From: Patrick Lindecker f6...@free.fr To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Cc: multi...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, May 31, 2010 2:45:45 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Multipsk Signalink and Vista Hello Chuck, Could you ask the to the Multipsk group. Note: have you connected a jack to the USB sound card input. It is compulsory with Vista 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: ac5pw10 ac5p...@yahoo.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 12:06 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Multipsk Signalink and Vista Can anyone tell me how to setup Multipsk using a signalink USB with Vista?? Tis is driving me crazy 73, Chuck AC5PW http://www.obriensweb.com/digispotter.html Chat, Skeds, and spots all in one (resize to suit)Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [digitalradio] ALE 400
We may be border line to close to each other for 20 meters. 73, Chuck AC5PW Once a Marine... ...Always a Marine OOORAHHH ! Saepe Expertus - Semper Fidelis - Fratres Aeterni Often Tested - Always Faithful - Brothers Forever From: H Stang wd4...@comcast.net To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 2:42:37 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE 400 Chuck, I saw your email and went to 14074 but didn't hear or see you. Band was ruff. just finished two ALE 400 QSO's with KEIAF AND WB2LMV. QSB aplenty. I am in the same mode of trying to figure it out. It is getting a little easir.. I have made 5 ALE400 contacts in the last two days. I may have to adjust my screen colors (Multipsk) where I type, it sends. If that can be done. They are both red, and it has been confusing me. Also in QSB there appears to be a constant resending of the typed material till it gets it correct. not sure but it seems that way. WB2MLV made a comment about that. So more study. Good luck. Hal Stang WD4MDA Hellschrieber #: FD 2599 wd4...@comcast. net Jacksonville FL - Original Message - From: ac5pw10 To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 1:56 PM Subject: [digitalradio] ALE 400 Is anybody on to tinker with ALE400?? It's 1751Z I'm monitoring 14074.00 and will monitor most of the rest of the day. I'm still trying to figure it out so please bear with me till then. 73, Chuck AC5PW No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2881 - Release Date: 05/18/10 02:26:00
Re: [digitalradio] ALE 400
I didn't hear any John, I want to apologize if I interfered with you... 73, Chuck AC5PW Once a Marine... ...Always a Marine OOORAHHH ! Saepe Expertus - Semper Fidelis - Fratres Aeterni Often Tested - Always Faithful - Brothers Forever From: John Becker, WØJAB w0...@big-river.net To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 3:56:41 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE 400 I was wondering what that noise was. Guess the pactor did not bother you.
Re: [digitalradio] What is SS? Senor Ros is not an honest person !
Something was telling me not to install this software, maybe it's a good thing I didn't. From: Arnaldo Coro acoro33...@yahoo.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Cc: David Sumner k...@arrl.net; Richard Moseson w...@cq-amateur-radio.com Sent: Sat, March 6, 2010 8:12:29 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] What is SS? Senor Ros is not an honest person ! Dear amigos: I am really concerned about the damage to the amateur radio hobby generated by a NON AMATEUR in Spain that wrote a software program for a new digital mode that very clearly to me, without any doubts , is a FHSS communications mode. I wrote e-mail messages to this person, and received some very aggressive replies from him... he even used several bad words in his messages that show that besides his very primitive knowledge of the English language _ ( he can not communicate effectively using English, as he has demonstrated many times with this very poorly written postings ) he lacks the most basic education and ethics. The topic we are dealing now is not, in my humble opinion, if ROS is or is not FHSS, it this person sent messages explaining or attempting to explain the nature of the ROS software, and then when faced with clear evidence that part of the market , and a signficant one indeed , to which he was aiming, could not make use of the ROS software. Now we are seeing on the 20 meters band, under better propagation conditions due to the so far sustained increase in solar activity, that Olivia users are facing interference from ROS users, caused by the ignorance of the Spanish inventor about amateur radio. He replied to a senior Cuban professor, a very prestigious telecommunications expert, using what could be described as foul language, an indication that confirmed that he was not only answering to my advice in such a disrespectful language. Just to add one more element... when I asked him about the possibility of writing the ROS software for LINUX users, his answer was also a clear demonstration of his ignorance about today's world. So, amigos at digital radio , my advise , and that's what I am going to do, is to alert ROS users of the possibility that the author of the software may even be attempting to use it for other purposes that are not related to amateur radio... After all, once you load a program of which you don't known the source code, into your computer, you are at the mercy of those who wrote the computer code... 73 and DX Arnie Coro CO2KK IARU Region II Area C Emergency Coordinator
Re: [digitalradio] Re: What is SS? Senor Ros is not an honest person !
But it was a good read anyway :-) From: g4ilo jul...@g4ilo.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, March 6, 2010 9:24:20 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: What is SS? Senor Ros is not an honest person ! Lessons from Troy http://xaddr. com/b8kj It is, of course, fiction. --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, Andy obrien k3uka...@.. . wrote: On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Arnaldo Coro acoro33100@ ... wrote: So, amigos at digital radio , my advise , and that's what I am going to do, is to alert ROS users of the possibility that the author of the software may even be attempting to use it for other purposes that are not related to amateur radio... After all, once you load a program of which you don't known the source code, into your computer, you are at the mercy of those who wrote the computer code... 73 and DX Arnie Coro CO2KK Yikes! That would not be good. Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] ROS
I was about to call myself since I couldn't find anything on the FCC site about it, no ROS, no such case number no nothing. From: Dave AA6YQ aa...@ambersoft.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com; rosdigitalmodemgr...@yahoogroups.com Cc: Skip Teller KH6TY htel...@comcast.net; Andy K3UK k...@obriensweb.com; Dave Bernstein AA6YQ aa...@ambersoft.com Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 12:06:06 PM Subject: [digitalradio] ROS Earlier this morning, I called the FCC to confirm the FCC: ROS LEGAL IN USA assertion made in http://rosmodem. wordpress. com/ I asked for confirmation that the FCC had deemed ROS legal for use on HF by US amateurs. When asked for a case number, I provided the case number given on the above web page -- but was informed that this case number refers to a password reset request, not ROS. I asked if I could speak with agent 3820, and was immediately connected; her name is Dawn. I gave Dawn the above URL, and read her the salient paragraph. She said that the information about ROS legality posted on the above web site was not accurate. Dawn went on to say that FCC staff members were working on this issue, and asked me to not make public comments until further progress had been made. She offered to call me at that time. Dawn called me a few minutes ago, and stated that FCC staff consider the information on the above web page to be out of context and misleading. She further stated that FCC staff is working with the ARRL on this issue, and that the outcome will be publicized by the ARRL. Dawn expects this to happen soon; there is nothing related to ROS posted on http://www.arrl. org/ as of a few minutes ago. Note that all telephone conversations with FCC personnel are recorded. 73, Dave, AA6YQ
