Re: [digitalradio] Beacons

2008-01-13 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Thanks Bonnie.  Can you remind us what what the automatic sub-bands
are, which frequencies ?

On Jan 13, 2008 2:28 PM, expeditionradio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Andy K3UK wrote:
>  > So, what about Propnet ?
>  > Would this not also apply to their beacons?
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>  Hi Andy,
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>  Beacons essentially are transmitters without receivers.
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>  Here's a good test to tell if a station is not beacon:
>  Call the station, if it responds, it isn't a beacon.
>  If you can QSO with the station, it isn't a beacon.
>  If you can exchange data with it, it isn't a beacon.
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>  As I understand it, APRS stations and Propnet stations
>  are using transceivers and communicating with each
>  other in a net. Some of the data communications are
>  automatic, or they make scheduled transmissions, but
>  that doesn't make them beacons, it just makes them
>  automatically controlled data stations. Both APRS and
>  Propnet nets are operating in the HF automatic sub-bands.
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>  It is somewhat ridiculous to say that every repetitive
>  signal, such as a station ID, is considered a beacon...
>  that would include all contesters and participants
>  in pileups... among other things, the second time you
>  call CQ without an answer :)
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>  It is common for ham digital mode software to have an
>  "Auto CQ" function. It continues to call CQ on a repetitive
>  basis until it gets a response. Many PSK31 operators
>  use this feature...
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>  Bonnie KQ6XA
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Andy K3UK
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[digitalradio] Beacons

2008-01-13 Thread expeditionradio
> Andy K3UK wrote:
> So, what about Propnet ? 
> Would this not also apply to their beacons?

Hi Andy,

Beacons essentially are transmitters without receivers.

Here's a good test to tell if a station is not beacon:
Call the station, if it responds, it isn't a beacon. 
If you can QSO with the station, it isn't a beacon. 
If you can exchange data with it, it isn't a beacon.

As I understand it, APRS stations and Propnet stations 
are using transceivers and communicating with each 
other in a net. Some of the data communications are 
automatic, or they make scheduled transmissions, but 
that doesn't make them beacons, it just makes them 
automatically controlled data stations. Both APRS and 
Propnet nets are operating in the HF automatic sub-bands.

It is somewhat ridiculous to say that every repetitive 
signal, such as a station ID, is considered a beacon... 
that would include all contesters and participants 
in pileups... among other things, the second time you 
call CQ without an answer :)

It is common for ham digital mode software to have an 
"Auto CQ" function. It continues to call CQ on a repetitive
basis until it gets a response. Many PSK31 operators 
use this feature... 
 
Bonnie KQ6XA