AW: [digitalradio] Mystery signal on 75M

2010-01-12 Thread Siegfried Jackstien
Make a tap in your trx at the last if….

If you can downconvert it to 12khz there is a decoding software for this
…(dream)

I put a downmixer from 455 to 12khz in my icom 765 and now I can use that
software for decoding drm

It´s nice to hear a short- or mediumwavestation in stereo and noisefree like
a local fm-station

Also very nice on fieldday … I listen to RTL on mediumwave in stereo very
often (almost daily)

The downmixer is just a few parts on a pcb as small as a stamp

A mixer ic (sa612) and a few caps, and a ceramic-resonator … that´s all

with that 12khz if- output you can do a lot of other neat things

there is many software out in the net for sdr …

and most of them can work with that 12khz-if (or are written for this)

software like if-dsp (ik2czl), winrad, multipsk!, power-sdr, dream, … to
name just a few …

for receiving of drm you have to switch to am or fm on your trx …

you need that 10kc wide signal downconverted to the 12 khz if so your rig
has to be set to that wide bandwidth

the mystery signal is bbc / dw …. The 2 stations are sharing the
transmitting sites in sines portrugal and skeleton uk

and sharing the qrg 3995….

You find lots of info here:

http://www.drmrx.org/forum/

this is a listeners forum where receiving results , technical stuff and
other things are posted

so now you have much to read hi hi ….

Best 73´s de dg9bfc

Sigi

 

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Von: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] Im
Auftrag von J. Moen
Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. Januar 2010 05:49
An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: Re: [digitalradio] Mystery signal on 75M

 

  

OK, I was thinking of the narrow bandwidth WinDRm and even better FDMDV that
we used until it was discovered we were using a proprietary codec.  DRM for
HF broadcast really is pretty wide, comparatively.  Thanks for the links.

 

  Jim - K6JM

 

- Original Message - 

From: Cortland Richmond mailto:k...@earthlink.net  

To: digitalradio@ mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 7:55 PM

Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Mystery signal on 75M  

Sure is. See the Wiki: 
http://en.wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Radio_Mondiale
.org/wiki/Digital_Radio_Mondiale

 

Also see the complaints!  

http://www.mail-
http://www.mail-archive.com/hard-core...@hard-core-dx.com/msg06085.html
archive.com/hard-core...@hard-core-dx.com/msg06085.html

 

FWIW, we in the US still have some AM HD Radio stations on IBOC wiping out
reception of adjacent frequencies.   

http://www.radiowor http://www.radioworld.com/article/8714
ld.com/article/8714

 

 

Cortland

KA5S

- Original Message - 

From: J. Moen mailto:j...@jwmoen.com  

To: digitalradio@ mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com

Sent: 1/11/2010 10:41:14 PM 

Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Mystery signal on 75M

 

Is DRM that wide?

 

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From: Cortland Richmond mailto:k...@earthlink.net  

To: digitalradio@ mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 5:48 PM

Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Mystery signal on 75M

 

  

There's some European DRM broadcasting in that range.

Cortland

 [Original Message]
 From: jhaynesatalumni jhhay...@earthlink. mailto:jhhay...@earthlink.net
net
 To: digitalradio@ mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com
 Date: 1/11/2010 8:27:07 PM
 Subject: [digitalradio] Mystery signal on 75M

 I was listening on the top end of 75M this afternoon about 4PM
 CST and heard a strange wideband signal, sounded a little bit like
 rushing wind. Brought up a digital waterfall and found that it
 extended from 3990.15 to 3997.85. The waterfall display was rather
 blotchy, suggesting some internal structure, tho I'm not clear on
 how many carriers might be present or what their spacing is.

 I was beginning to suspect the neighbor's cable TV box which has
 put noise on some other frequencies, but then the signal went away
 about 5PM CST. I've heard the signal before, but didn't note
 the times and spectrum. This is in NW Arkansas.






[digitalradio] Mystery signal on 75M

2010-01-11 Thread jhaynesatalumni
I was listening on the top end of 75M this afternoon about 4PM
CST and heard a strange wideband signal, sounded a little bit like
rushing wind.  Brought up a digital waterfall and found that it
extended from 3990.15 to 3997.85.  The waterfall display was rather
blotchy, suggesting some internal structure, tho I'm not clear on
how many carriers might be present or what their spacing is.

I was beginning to suspect the neighbor's cable TV box which has
put noise on some other frequencies, but then the signal went away
about 5PM CST.  I've heard the signal before, but didn't note
the times and spectrum.  This is in NW Arkansas.



RE: [digitalradio] Mystery signal on 75M

2010-01-11 Thread Cortland Richmond
There's some European DRM broadcasting in that range.

Cortland


 [Original Message]
 From: jhaynesatalumni jhhay...@earthlink.net
 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 Date: 1/11/2010 8:27:07 PM
 Subject: [digitalradio] Mystery signal on 75M

 I was listening on the top end of 75M this afternoon about 4PM
 CST and heard a strange wideband signal, sounded a little bit like
 rushing wind.  Brought up a digital waterfall and found that it
 extended from 3990.15 to 3997.85.  The waterfall display was rather
 blotchy, suggesting some internal structure, tho I'm not clear on
 how many carriers might be present or what their spacing is.

 I was beginning to suspect the neighbor's cable TV box which has
 put noise on some other frequencies, but then the signal went away
 about 5PM CST.  I've heard the signal before, but didn't note
 the times and spectrum.  This is in NW Arkansas.





Re: [digitalradio] Mystery signal on 75M

2010-01-11 Thread J. Moen
Is DRM that wide?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Cortland Richmond 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 5:48 PM
  Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Mystery signal on 75M



  There's some European DRM broadcasting in that range.

  Cortland

   [Original Message]
   From: jhaynesatalumni jhhay...@earthlink.net
   To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
   Date: 1/11/2010 8:27:07 PM
   Subject: [digitalradio] Mystery signal on 75M
  
   I was listening on the top end of 75M this afternoon about 4PM
   CST and heard a strange wideband signal, sounded a little bit like
   rushing wind. Brought up a digital waterfall and found that it
   extended from 3990.15 to 3997.85. The waterfall display was rather
   blotchy, suggesting some internal structure, tho I'm not clear on
   how many carriers might be present or what their spacing is.
  
   I was beginning to suspect the neighbor's cable TV box which has
   put noise on some other frequencies, but then the signal went away
   about 5PM CST. I've heard the signal before, but didn't note
   the times and spectrum. This is in NW Arkansas.
  


Re: [digitalradio] Mystery signal on 75M

2010-01-11 Thread Cortland Richmond
Sure is. See the Wiki: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Radio_Mondiale

Also see the complaints!  
http://www.mail-archive.com/hard-core...@hard-core-dx.com/msg06085.html

FWIW, we in the US still have some AM HD Radio stations on IBOC wiping out 
reception of adjacent frequencies.   
http://www.radioworld.com/article/8714


Cortland
KA5S



- Original Message - 
From: J. Moen 
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 1/11/2010 10:41:14 PM 
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Mystery signal on 75M





Is DRM that wide?

- Original Message - 
From: Cortland Richmond 
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 5:48 PM
Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Mystery signal on 75M


  
There's some European DRM broadcasting in that range.

Cortland

 [Original Message]
 From: jhaynesatalumni jhhay...@earthlink.net
 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 Date: 1/11/2010 8:27:07 PM
 Subject: [digitalradio] Mystery signal on 75M

 I was listening on the top end of 75M this afternoon about 4PM
 CST and heard a strange wideband signal, sounded a little bit like
 rushing wind. Brought up a digital waterfall and found that it
 extended from 3990.15 to 3997.85. The waterfall display was rather
 blotchy, suggesting some internal structure, tho I'm not clear on
 how many carriers might be present or what their spacing is.

 I was beginning to suspect the neighbor's cable TV box which has
 put noise on some other frequencies, but then the signal went away
 about 5PM CST. I've heard the signal before, but didn't note
 the times and spectrum. This is in NW Arkansas.






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Re: [digitalradio] Mystery signal on 75M

2010-01-11 Thread J. Moen
OK, I was thinking of the narrow bandwidth WinDRm and even better FDMDV that we 
used until it was discovered we were using a proprietary codec.  DRM for HF 
broadcast really is pretty wide, comparatively.  Thanks for the links.

  Jim - K6JM

  - Original Message - 
  From: Cortland Richmond 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 7:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Mystery signal on 75M  

  Sure is. See the Wiki: 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Radio_Mondiale

  Also see the complaints!  
  http://www.mail-archive.com/hard-core...@hard-core-dx.com/msg06085.html

  FWIW, we in the US still have some AM HD Radio stations on IBOC wiping out 
reception of adjacent frequencies.   
  http://www.radioworld.com/article/8714


  Cortland
  KA5S
  - Original Message - 
From: J. Moen 
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 1/11/2010 10:41:14 PM 
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Mystery signal on 75M


Is DRM that wide?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Cortland Richmond 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 5:48 PM
  Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Mystery signal on 75M



  There's some European DRM broadcasting in that range.

  Cortland

   [Original Message]
   From: jhaynesatalumni jhhay...@earthlink.net
   To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
   Date: 1/11/2010 8:27:07 PM
   Subject: [digitalradio] Mystery signal on 75M
  
   I was listening on the top end of 75M this afternoon about 4PM
   CST and heard a strange wideband signal, sounded a little bit like
   rushing wind. Brought up a digital waterfall and found that it
   extended from 3990.15 to 3997.85. The waterfall display was rather
   blotchy, suggesting some internal structure, tho I'm not clear on
   how many carriers might be present or what their spacing is.
  
   I was beginning to suspect the neighbor's cable TV box which has
   put noise on some other frequencies, but then the signal went away
   about 5PM CST. I've heard the signal before, but didn't note
   the times and spectrum. This is in NW Arkansas.