I would suggest  14109.  Anything from 14101 to 14112 should work but Winmor is 
often at 14112.   PACTOR is everywhere in this range but that is just the way 
the band can be.  14101 has been good most of the day  but 14102 is a common 
frequency for Olivia, see below.

        +8h     EA3AQS Spain            14102.41        OLIVIA  DL7JP
        +8h     OH/DK4ZC Finland                14102.52        OLIVIA  DL7JP
        +8h     EU6PW Belarus           10141.97        MFSK16  G0UZP
        +8h     DM2AUO Germany          14103.28        OLIVIA  DL7JP
        +8h     DM2AUO Germany          14103.27        OLIVIA  DL7JP
        +8h     DM2DTH Germany          14102.25        OLIVIA  DL7JP
        +8h     IK4G Italy              14102.52        OLIVIA  DL7JP
        +8h     IK4GBU Italy            14102.51        OLIVIA  DL7JP
        +8h     OH2HN Finland           14102.49        OLIVIA  DL7JP

and 14101 is common for packet, I think.

When I do a search for DX spots oon the frequency range 14101 to 14112
, 14101-14103 come out the busiest .  14104 to 14112 have very little posted 
activity.  ALE and Olivia can be on 14109 but activity is light, and brief.  

14101 was crowded for ROS 16 today , but it seems that using 14104 to 14112 
would be a good choice for most activity .  There may be QRM from RTTY during 
contests.

Andy K3UK

      
PE1AUV         14100.0 RA6FCU       olivia 32/1000 tnx                 1744 22 
Feb   European Russia
EA8BJM         14106.0 EA8ATE       OLIVIA 32/1000 SERGIO              1857 21 
Feb   Canary Islands
F4BMY-@        14144.0 WA1VMG       tnx fer qso olivia                 1830 21 
Feb   United States
EA8BJM         14106.0 EA8BJM       OLIVIA 32/1000 SERGIO              1730 20 
Feb   Canary Islands
HB9BTI-@       14105.0 HB9GT        CQ Olivia                          1453 20 
Feb   Switzerland
TF3AO          14107.0 EA8ATE       OLIVIA CQ                          0959 20 
Feb   Canary Islands
EA8BJM         14106.0 EA8ATE       OLIVIA 32/1000 SERGIO              0954 20 
Feb   Canary Islands

OZ1PMX-@       14105.0 IK4GBU       OLIVIA vy wide signal              0728 15 
Feb   Italy
UU4JII-@       14106.5 UU4JO        OLIVIA 1000/32 CQ                  0945 12 
Feb   Ukraine
UU4JII-@       14106.5 UU4JO        OLIVIA 1000/32 CQ                  0939 12 
Feb   Ukraine
RK

9A3JB          14105.5 9A0HRS       cq olivia                          2147 09 
Feb   Croatia

UN7TK-@        14107.5 UN7TK        OLIVIA  Cq  CQ  Cq                 0648 09 
Feb   Kazakhstan
IV3DAI-@       14106.0 UU4JO        OLIVIA MODE                        1235 08 
Feb   Ukraine
UU0AK-@        14106.5 UU4JO        OLIVIA MODE 1000/32                1217 08 
Feb   Ukraine
UU8JC-@        14106.5 UU4JO        MODE OLIVIA 1000/32                1437 07 
Feb   Ukraine
UU8JC-@        14106.5 UU4JO        OLIVIA 1000/32 599                 1336 06 
Feb   Ukraine
UA1CSB-@       14106.5 UU4JO        OLIVIA 1000/32 599 NICE SIGNAL CQ  1320 06 
Feb   Ukraine
UU4JII-@       14106.5 UU4JO        OLIVIA 1000/32                     1313 06 
Feb   Ukraine
EA1EYG         14099.9 TI8II        TU Carlos OLIVIA 73                1703 05 
Feb   Costa Rica
9H1EI          14099.4 9H1LO        TESTING OLIVIA                     1655 05 
Feb   Malta
VE1GW          14106.2 UA6CE        Olivia 16/500 Tnx Vlad!!!          1405 04 
Feb   European Russia
PE1AUV         14107.7 UA6CE        olivia 32/1000 tnx                 1345 04 
Feb   European Russia
16/500                      2352 30 Jan   Japan
8/250                       1723 24 Jan   United States

ON3VHF         14105.0 KZ6ZZ        olivia tks qso Jack                1723 20 
Jan   United States
ON3VHF         14105.0 KB1EZW       olivia tks qso mike                1659 20 
Jan   United States

ON3VHF         14105.0 AA4FS        olivia tks qso Frank call vhf      1633 20 
Jan   United States
DD8HB-@        14106.0 ON3VHF       OLIVIA                             1604 20 
Jan   Belgium

YO4BTB-@       14106.5 OH2BN        OLIVIA                             0919 15 
Jan   Finland
UN7TK-@        14107.5 TEST         OLIVIA                             2205 12 
Jan   Not Found
UA0ZEO-@       14072.6 VE7NBQ       OLIVIA PETER VANCOUVER             2346 11 
Jan   Canada
A61BN-@        14107.0 A61BK        OLIVIA SPECIAL CARD BURJ KHALIFA   1256 11 
Jan   United Arab Emir
SWL-@          14108.5 RN3DV        OLIVIA 32/1000 u r 599 in OE6      0937 10 
Jan   European Russia
UA9OEX-@       14105.6 UA9OEX       OLIVIA via buro or direct Igor Asi 1033 09 
Jan   Asiatic Russia
UA9OEX         14105.6 UA9OEX       OLIVIA via buro or direct Igor     0833 09 
Jan   Asiatic Russia

G1OCN          14108.3 VE2AHS       OLIVIA CQ                          1031 07 
Jan   Canada
UN7TK-@        14107.5 UN7TK        OLIVIA Cq DX Cq                    1236 05 
Jan   Kazakhstan

UN7TK          14107.5 UN7TK        OLIVIA Cq DX Cq                    1036 05 
Jan   Kazakhstan
DC6MY          14076.4 G3ZXX        OLIVIA Tnx for QSO                 1030 05 
Jan   England
IV3SCP         14107.5 IV3SCP       CQ CQ CQ OLIVIA 32 TONES           2015 04 
Jan   Italy
OK1NH-@        14105.5 CQ           OLIVIA 32/1000                     0525 04 
Jan   Portugal
OK1NH-@        14105.5 CQ           OLIVIA 32/1000                     0525 04 
Jan   Portugal
OK1NH-@        14105.5 CQ           OLIVIA 32/1000                     0525 04 
Jan   Portugal
IV3SCP         14107.5 IV3SCP       CQ OLIVIA 32 TONES                 1913 03 
Jan   Italy
IV3SCP         14107.5 IV3SCP       CQ OLIVIA 32 TONES                 1913 03 
Jan   Italy
OK1NH-@        14105.5 CQ           OLIVIA 32/1000                     0619 03 
Jan   Portugal
OK1NH-@        14105.5 CQ           OLIVIA 32/1000                     0619 03 
Jan   Portugal
OK1NH-@        14105.5 CQ           OLIVIA 32/1000                     0619 03 
Jan   Portugal
OK1NH-@        14105.5 CQ           OLIVIA 32/1000                     0511 03 
Jan   Portugal
OK1NH-@        14105.5 CQ           OLIVIA 32/1000                     0511 03 
Jan   Portugal
OK1NH-@        14105.5 CQ           OLIVIA 32/1000                     0511 03 
Jan   Portugal
ON3VHF         14106.0 W5APS        tks qso jim in olivia              1517 02 
Jan   United States
ON3VHF         14106.0 W5APS        tks qso jim in olivia              1517 02 
Jan   United States
TF3AO          14106.5 DL2SBC/QRP   OLIVIA CQ                          1512 02 
Jan   Germany
TF3AO          14106.5 DL2SBC/QRP   OLIVIA CQ                          1512 02 
Jan   Germany
EA4CFY         14103.5 A61BK        OLIVIA - TNX FOR CONTACT           1415 02 
Jan   United Arab Emir
EA4CFY         14103.5 A61BK        OLIVIA - TNX FOR CONTACT           1415 02 
Jan   United Arab Emir
N0VPL-@        14105.0 A61BK        Olivia 32/1000 ,  TU Khalid        1413 02 
Jan   United Arab Emir
N0VPL-@        14105.0 A61BK        Olivia 32/1000 ,  TU Khalid        1413 02 
Jan   United Arab Emir
N0VPL-@        14105.0 A61BK        Olivia 32/1000 ,  TU Khalid        1413 02 
Jan   United Arab Emir
A61BN-@        14105.0 A61BK        OLIVIA KHALID DUBAI                1358 02 
Jan   United Arab Emir
A61BN-@        14105.0 A61BK        OLIVIA KHALID DUBAI                1358 02 
Jan   United Arab Emir
A61BN-@        14105.0 A61BK        OLIVIA KHALID DUBAI                1358 02 
Jan   United Arab Emir
SWL-@          14077.2 UX5MM        OLIVIA 500/16 CQ u r 589 in OE6    1141 02 
Jan   Ukraine
SWL-@          14077.2 UX5MM        OLIVIA 500/16 CQ u r 589 in OE6    1141 02 
Jan   Ukraine
SWL-@          14077.2 UX5MM        OLIVIA 500/16 CQ u r 589 in OE6    1141 02 
Jan   Ukraine
KM1C-@         14075.6 ZS6BQI       OLIVIA 16/500  Tnx Art!  HNY       2102 01 
Jan   South Africa
KM1C-@         14075.6 ZS6BQI       OLIVIA 16/500  Tnx Art!  HNY       2102 01 
Jan   South Africa


ROS has been spotted


YV4GJN         14101.0 F5HPY        TNX FOR QSO NEW MODE ROS 73        1802 22 
Feb   France
DL8EBW         14101.0 YU1RP        599 tnx QSO ROS mode ;-) funny     1008 22 
Feb   Serbia
DL8EBW         14101.0 IK8WSR       JO31NF<ROS>JM78 599 ROS Mode t     0952 22 
Feb   Italy
JI4POR         14101.0 F4FYA        mode ros tnx qso                   1016 21 
Feb   France
JI4POR         14101.0 I3VWK        mode ros qso tmx                   1012 21 
Feb   Italy
SV8CS          14101.0 SV8CS        CQ in ROS mode 16 baud             0702 21 
Feb   Greece
SV8CS          14101.0 F1ABE        TNX for my 1st QSO in ROS new      0701 21 
Feb   France
SQ8MXR         14101.0 M5PLY        ROS                                1333 20 
Feb   England








        Age     DX      ST      Country Freq    Mode    Spotter
        3m      KC7OO United States, WA - lotw  WA      United States   
14071.81        PSK31   WB0SRX
        3m      N5PU United States, MS - lotw   MS      United States   
14072.38        PSK31   WB0SRX
        4m      K0RDW United States, MN MN      United States   14070.15        
PSK31   VE3VMJ
        5m      N0MNO United States, MN MN      United States   14070.00        
PSK31   AF6BY
        5m      KE4EX United States, VA VA      United States   14069.00        
PSK31   K0RDW
        5m      W9DTR United States, IL IL      United States   14072.25        
PSK31   N1GDD
        5m      VG7G Canada             Canada  14084.20        RTTY    N9MIW
        5m      N4ABN United States, CO - lotw  CO      United States   
14075.59        JT65A   VE3ODZ
        5m      GW3LEW Wales            Wales   14075.78        JT65A   VE3ODZ
        5m      KC0BMF United States, IA - lotw IA      United States   
14076.34        JT65A   VE3ODZ
        6m      EA1CJH Spain            Spain   14070.00        PSK31   N9JY
        6m      KI4YV United States, NC NC      United States   14070.00        
PSK31   N7AAM
        6m      AC7QO United States, UT - lotw  UT      United States   
14069.83        PSK31   KA6HXI
        6m      EA7APF Spain            Spain   14070.00        PSK31   KC2DEA
        6m      KM9E United States, IN  IN      United States   14069.83        
PSK31   KA6HXI
        6m      G8IHT England           England 14076.37        JT65A   W4CQZ
        6m      LU8WAG Argentina                Argentina       14075.61        
JT65A   GI6ISW
        7m      CO3JN Cuba              Cuba    14070.15        PSK31   W6PDD
        7m      N4ABN United States, CO - lotw  CO      United States   
14075.59        JT65A   VE3ODZ
        7m      G1GIL England           England 14076.20        JT65A   VE3ODZ
        7m      KC0BMF United States, IA - lotw IA      United States   
14076.34        JT65A   VE3ODZ
        8m      YV6DX Venezuela         Venezuela       14071.25        PSK31   
N8NM
        8m      LU8WAG Argentina                Argentina       14075.61        
JT65A   GI6ISW
        9m      N2LWD United States, NC NC      United States   14070.00        
PSK31   G6UIM
        9m      KB2AMY United States, NY - lotw NY      United States   
14075.63        JT65A   W4CQZ
        9m      F6BAX France            France  14070.00        PSK31   KI4DGU
        10m     W0NBP United States, IA - lotw  IA      United States   
14070.00        PSK31   VG7GEM
        10m     KM9E United States, IN  IN      United States   14070.00        
PSK31   VG7GEM
        10m     AC7QO United States, UT - lotw  UT      United States   
14070.15        PSK31   KF2M
        10m     MI0JZZ Northern Ireland         Northern Ireland        
14070.15        PSK31   VE3VMJ
        10m     G8IHT England           England 14076.37        JT65A   W4CQZ
        10m     K5RKS United States, OK - lotw  OK      United States   
14070.00        PSK31   KW0G
        11m     KC7OO United States, WA - lotw  WA      United States   
14070.00        PSK31   K6CKB
        11m     K3PRN United States, MD MD      United States   14070.00        
PSK31   WB5NFT
        11m     K1AYZ United States, FL - lotw  FL      United States   
14071.44        PSK31   K7UEB
        11m     F8BMI France            France  14070.00        PSK31   KI4DGU
        11m     N0IRM United States, MO - lotw  MO      United States   
14070.00        PSK31   K8TOM
        11m     VE1BSA Canada           Canada  14072.02        PSK31   K7UEB
        11m     YV1GIY Venezuela                Venezuela       14070.00        
PSK31   NN1T
        11m     AF6AS United States, CA - lotw  CA      United States   
14076.00        JT65A   N7ZO
        11m     GI6ISW Northern Ireland         Northern Ireland        
14075.60        JT65A   VE3ODZ
        11m     GW3LEW Wales            Wales   14075.78        JT65A   VE3ODZ
        11m     EA7APF Spain            Spain   14070.00        PSK31   KW0G
        11m     KB3SRP United States, PA        PA      United States   
14070.00        PSK31   WA3ERQ
        11m     UA0ZK Asiatic Russia            Asiatic Russia  14070.00        
PSK31   KW0G
        11m     W8KHR/4 United States           United States   14070.00        
PSK31   VG7GEM
        11m     WD8QEF United States, MI        MI      United States   
14070.00        PSK31   KW0G
        11m     W0MDT United States, MN MN      United States   14070.00        
PSK31   WA3ERQ
        11m     KI4YV United States, NC NC      United States   14070.00        
PSK31   KW0G
        12m     G6UIM England           England 14070.00        PSK31   W3DEI
        12m     K1HBX United States, FL FL      United States   14071.20        
PSK31   WB0SRX
        12m     W6DNE United States, CA CA      United States   14070.00        
PSK31   VG7GEM
        12m     KA7LHE United States, WA - lotw WA      United States   
14070.00        PSK31   KI7F
        12m     YV1GIY Venezuela                Venezuela       14070.00        
PSK31   W2GHD
        12m     AC7QO United States, UT - lotw  UT      United States   
14070.00        PSK31   KB1ROO
        12m     N2CSA United States, NJ NJ      United States   14070.00        
PSK31   VG7GEM
        12m     EA7APF Spain            Spain   14071.34        PSK31   N8NM
        13m     HK2AQT Colombia         Colombia        14070.15        PSK31   
KF2M
        13m     W0NBP United States, IA - lotw  IA      United States   
14068.32        PSK31   KD6IL
        13m     W4LGH United States, FL FL      United States   14070.00        
PSK31   KW0G
        13m     N6DIQ United States, CA CA      United States   14070.00        
PSK31   VG7GEM
        13m     K5DDJ United States, TX TX      United States   14070.71        
PSK31   K7UEB
        13m     AF6AS United States, CA - lotw  CA      United States   
14076.00        JT65A   N7ZO
        14m     K3PRN United States, MD MD      United States   14070.00        
PSK31   N9JY
        14m     AG4CZ United States, KY - lotw  KY      United States   
14071.70        PSK31   N1GDD
        14m     VE1BSA Canada           Canada  14070.00        PSK31   WB5NFT
        14m     VG7GEM Canada           Canada  14070.00        PSK31   WD0MYM
        14m     W8KHR/4 United States           United States   14070.15        
PSK31   KF2M
        15m     EA8CSG Canary Islands           Canary Islands  14070.00        
PSK31   KC2DEA
        15m     KC1UX United States, ME - lotw  ME      United States   
14070.00        PSK31   WD0MYM
        15m     KM9E United States, IN  IN      United States   14070.00        
PSK31   K8TOM
        15m     2E0GHQ England          England 14070.00        PSK31   N1FCC
        15m     CO3JN Cuba              Cuba    14070.00        PSK31   WD0MYM
        15m     K0RDW United States, MN MN      United States   14070.00        
PSK31   N7AAM
        15m     K1AYZ United States, FL - lotw  FL      United States   
14070.00        PSK31   K6SID
        15m     F6DKQ France - lotw             France  14075.38        JT65A   
VE3ODZ
        15m     GI6ISW Northern Ireland         Northern Ireland        
14075.60        JT65A   VE3ODZ
        15m     GW3LEW Wales            Wales   14075.78        JT65A   VE3ODZ
        16m     CO6RJ Cuba              Cuba    14230.00        SSTV    N8MNI
        16m     F8BMI France            France  14070.00        PSK31   N9JY
        16m     MI0JZZ Northern Ireland         Northern Ireland        
14070.00        PSK31   N1DQ
        16m     F6BAX France            France  14070.00        PSK31   WB4PPW
        16m     N2LWD United States, NC NC      United States   14070.15        
PSK31   W6PDD
        16m     UA0ZK Asiatic Russia            Asiatic Russia  14070.00        
PSK31   VG7GEM
        16m     KB3SRP United States, PA        PA      United States   
14070.00        PSK31   KE0WW
        16m     DH2PA Germany - lotw            Germany 14070.00        PSK31   
VK7TED
        16m     K9TRY United States, WI WI      United States   14070.00        
PSK31   KB2UUL
        16m     KC7OO United States, WA - lotw  WA      United States   
14070.00        PSK31   WD0MYM
        16m     VE7YN Canada            Canada  14070.00        PSK31   K3WOW
        16m     K1KOB United States, VA VA      United States   14070.00        
PSK31   AE9H
        16m     6V7T Senegal            Senegal 14070.00        PSK31   WD0MYM
        16m     EA3BDQ Spain            Spain   14070.00        PSK31   KE0WW
        16m     YV6DX Venezuela         Venezuela       14070.00        PSK31   
WB5NFT
        16m     W8K United States               United States   14070.00        
PSK31   WT6X
        16m     CO2JD Cuba              Cuba    14070.15        PSK31   VE3VMJ
        16m     W9VNE United States, OH OH      United States   14070.00        
PSK31   N7AAM
        16m     G8IHT England           England 14076.37        JT65A   W4CQZ
        16m     LU8WAG Argentina                Argentina       14075.62        
JT65A   GI6ISW
        16m     N4ABN United States, CO - lotw  CO      United States   
14075.78        JT65A   VE3ODZ
        17m     VE7YN Canada            Canada  14070.00        PSK31   KG4UPR
        17m     YV6DX Venezuela         Venezuela       14070.00        PSK31   
W3DEI
        17m     K9TRY United States, WI WI      United States   14070.00        
PSK31   K8TOM
        17m     CO2JD Cuba              Cuba    14070.00        PSK31   N3TAV
        17m     F6BAX France            France  14070.15        PSK31   VE3VMJ
        17m     N2LWD United States, NC NC      United States   14071.69        
PSK31   K7UEB
        17m     VK2KM Australia         Australia       14081.80        RTTY    
N9MIW
        18m     G8IHT England           England 14076.37        JT65A   W4CQZ
        18m     WA4EQW United States, FL - lotw FL      United States   
14070.00        PSK31   KW0G
        18m     AD5ZA United States, TX - lotw  TX      United States   
14069.83        PSK31   KA6HXI
        18m     F8BMI France            France  14070.00        PSK31   AI4OF
        18m     ON4GL Belgium - lotw            Belgium 14070.00        PSK31   
W2GHD
        18m     K0RDW United States, MN MN      United States   14070.00        
PSK31   WA6OWM
        18m     K1HBX United States, FL FL      United States   14070.00        
PSK31   WD0MYM
        18m     KD8LAV United States, OH        OH      United States   
14071.52        PSK31   K7UEB
        19m     K0FBV United States, IA - lotw  IA      United States   
14070.00        PSK31   WA6OWM
        19m     AF0SS United States, MN MN      United States   14070.00        
PSK31   KC2DEA
        19m     W8KHR/4 United States           United States   14070.79        
PSK31   KB6BZZ
        19m     KC7OO United States, WA - lotw  WA      United States   
14070.00        PSK31   KC2DEA
        20m     HK2AQT Colombia         Colombia        14070.00        PSK31   
KC2DEA
        20m     W4LGH United States, FL FL      United States   14070.94        
PSK31   WB0SRX
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, jose alberto nieto ros <nietoro...@...> 
wrote:
>
> Please, give a frequency alternative to 14.101
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> De: KH6TY <kh...@...>
> Para: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> Enviado: lun,22 febrero, 2010 22:39
> Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?
> 
>   
> That is good, Dave, except for receivers that distort heavily when the AGC is 
> disabled. If you just use manual gain control, and reduce the gain for strong 
> signals, the effect is the same, only manual. You will lose the weak station 
> because you have reduced the gain and the sensitivity. The only way to still 
> copy your weak station and get rid of the strong one is to filter at IF 
> frequencies, which is what fixed filters or passband tuning does. IF DSP will 
> do it also these days, but it needs to be at IF frequencies and not audio 
> frequencies if you are going to prevent AGC capture by an unwanted stronger 
> signal.
> 
> 14.101 is adjacent to Pactor activity and if you monitor it long enough, you 
> will see the Pactor station stop decoding of ROS. However, most of the 
> automatic Pactor activity we hear is in the US, so the problem may not be as 
> big on the other side of the big pond.
> 
> 73 - Skip KH6TY
> 
> 
> 
> Dave Ackrill wrote: 
>   
> >KH6TY wrote:
> >
> >> 2. Pactor signals of 500 Hz width, outside the ROS signal, that capture 
> >> the AGC, do desensitize the receiver and cause loss of decoding, as 
> >> expected. Passband tuning takes care of that problem however.
> >> 
> >
> >As with many other digital modes, I've been using it with AGC switched off.
> >
> >Dave (G0DJA)
> >
>


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