[digitalradio] Re: RTTY and common courtesy
If it does not look like a rtty signal then it is ignored. Well that does seem to be the definition of the problem, doesn't it??!! Jon KB1QBZ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Ralph Mowery ku...@... wrote: Many times stations do not even have the audio running now. They are just looking at a digital display and clicking on the signals.
[digitalradio] Re: RTTY and common courtesy
This is an OLD problem. Hams were complaining about this when I first got licensed in 1955. Only AM and CW, and mechanical RTTY then. So if you find a cure, tell us. Until then, just keep your side of the street clean. And remeber, ENGAGE BRAIN BEFORE OENING MOUTH (or transmitting) Ted Stone, WA2WQN --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, KB3FXI kb3...@... wrote: I had 3 interruptions from 3 different stations during an Oliva 8/500 net last night on 80m within about a 5 minutes timespan.
[digitalradio] Re: RTTY and common courtesy
I agree. And while I have little or no interest in contesting, I can appreciate it as being a big part of amateur radio and does have value in practice and experience in understanding exchanges and band conditions/propagation. And for a great many people, it's just plain old fun. But, there's really no excuse for ops to just pop on a frequency that is in use. What the 3 ops did on the net I was participating in last night was really inexcusable. I helped with a special event station yesterday and on ever qsy I first listened and put out 3 calls asking if the freq was in use. This procedure took about 1 minute of my time and I was assured that I was not interfering with a qso in progress. It's just common sense and common courtesy. -Dave, KB3FXI BTW, I find the CW contesters to be less likely to QRM. And if they do, it really has no effect on most of the digital modes we use on our nets (Olivia and MT63). --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Becker, WØJAB w0...@... wrote: I'm not in anyway saying that what happened was OK but after all it was a contest. Not like it happens all the time. But look at the good side. Lucky it was not a CW contest. John, W0JAB Louisiana, Missouri EM49lk Pike county for the county hunters. At 10:56 AM 7/18/2010, you wrote: I had 3 interruptions from 3 different stations during an Oliva 8/500 net last night on 80m within about a 5 minutes timespan. And, BTW, I know for damn sure they could see and hear my signal as I switched to RTTY at 50w on all stations and repeated the frequency is in use until the moved. I don't think anyone should suggest limiting to contests to fixed frequencies, but it damn sure would be nice if some of the mindless RTTY contesters would start showing some common courtesy by listening a second or two before stomping on QSO's in progress. -Dave, KB3FXI
Re: [digitalradio] Re: RTTY and common courtesy
Let me get this right. You want a station to ask if the frequency is in use. That is understandable except he will be on RTTY and you are on another sound card mode. Many times stations do not even have the audio running now. They are just looking at a digital display and clicking on the signals. If it does not look like a rtty signal then it is ignored. I don't do contest either except for some at field day and some vhf and above contest. - Original Message From: KB3FXI kb3...@yahoo.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, July 18, 2010 12:57:03 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: RTTY and common courtesy I agree. And while I have little or no interest in contesting, I can appreciate it as being a big part of amateur radio and does have value in practice and experience in understanding exchanges and band conditions/propagation. And for a great many people, it's just plain old fun. But, there's really no excuse for ops to just pop on a frequency that is in use. What the 3 ops did on the net I was participating in last night was really inexcusable. I helped with a special event station yesterday and on ever qsy I first listened and put out 3 calls asking if the freq was in use. This procedure took about 1 minute of my time and I was assured that I was not interfering with a qso in progress. It's just common sense and common courtesy. -Dave, KB3FXI
[digitalradio] Re: RTTY and common courtesy
No. I'm simply asking that ops look or listen on the freq before the transmit. The fact that these ops moved off freq after I put out several long lines of the freq is in use on their mode at 50w proves the fact that if they would have just had the common sense and courtesy to take a minute to listen, they would have known there was a qso ongoing. Do you suppose they're running their RTTY station in such a way that they can neither hear or see a signal? -Dave, KB3FXI --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Ralph Mowery ku...@... wrote: Let me get this right. You want a station to ask if the frequency is in use. That is understandable except he will be on RTTY and you are on another sound card mode. Many times stations do not even have the audio running now. They are just looking at a digital display and clicking on the signals. If it does not look like a rtty signal then it is ignored. I don't do contest either except for some at field day and some vhf and above contest. - Original Message From: KB3FXI kb3...@... To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, July 18, 2010 12:57:03 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: RTTY and common courtesy I agree. And while I have little or no interest in contesting, I can appreciate it as being a big part of amateur radio and does have value in practice and experience in understanding exchanges and band conditions/propagation. And for a great many people, it's just plain old fun. But, there's really no excuse for ops to just pop on a frequency that is in use. What the 3 ops did on the net I was participating in last night was really inexcusable. I helped with a special event station yesterday and on ever qsy I first listened and put out 3 calls asking if the freq was in use. This procedure took about 1 minute of my time and I was assured that I was not interfering with a qso in progress. It's just common sense and common courtesy. -Dave, KB3FXI
Re: [digitalradio] Re: RTTY and common courtesy
I was taught to listen first, then transmit. Hard to listen with the AF gain all the way down. Once one is established on a frequency, turn it down, if you QSY, listen again. ve3bdr From: Ralph Mowery Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 3:29 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: RTTY and common courtesy Let me get this right. You want a station to ask if the frequency is in use. That is understandable except he will be on RTTY and you are on another sound card mode. Many times stations do not even have the audio running now. They are just looking at a digital display and clicking on the signals. If it does not look like a rtty signal then it is ignored. I don't do contest either except for some at field day and some vhf and above contest. - Original Message From: KB3FXI kb3...@yahoo.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, July 18, 2010 12:57:03 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: RTTY and common courtesy I agree. And while I have little or no interest in contesting, I can appreciate it as being a big part of amateur radio and does have value in practice and experience in understanding exchanges and band conditions/propagation. And for a great many people, it's just plain old fun. But, there's really no excuse for ops to just pop on a frequency that is in use. What the 3 ops did on the net I was participating in last night was really inexcusable. I helped with a special event station yesterday and on ever qsy I first listened and put out 3 calls asking if the freq was in use. This procedure took about 1 minute of my time and I was assured that I was not interfering with a qso in progress. It's just common sense and common courtesy. -Dave, KB3FXI No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.839 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3013 - Release Date: 07/18/10 02:35:00
[digitalradio] Re: RTTY and common courtesy
Exactly! -Dave, KB3FXI --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rudy Benner ben...@... wrote: I was taught to listen first, then transmit. Hard to listen with the AF gain all the way down. Once one is established on a frequency, turn it down, if you QSY, listen again. ve3bdr From: Ralph Mowery Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 3:29 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: RTTY and common courtesy Let me get this right. You want a station to ask if the frequency is in use. That is understandable except he will be on RTTY and you are on another sound card mode. Many times stations do not even have the audio running now. They are just looking at a digital display and clicking on the signals. If it does not look like a rtty signal then it is ignored. I don't do contest either except for some at field day and some vhf and above contest. - Original Message From: KB3FXI kb3...@... To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, July 18, 2010 12:57:03 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: RTTY and common courtesy I agree. And while I have little or no interest in contesting, I can appreciate it as being a big part of amateur radio and does have value in practice and experience in understanding exchanges and band conditions/propagation. And for a great many people, it's just plain old fun. But, there's really no excuse for ops to just pop on a frequency that is in use. What the 3 ops did on the net I was participating in last night was really inexcusable. I helped with a special event station yesterday and on ever qsy I first listened and put out 3 calls asking if the freq was in use. This procedure took about 1 minute of my time and I was assured that I was not interfering with a qso in progress. It's just common sense and common courtesy. -Dave, KB3FXI No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.839 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3013 - Release Date: 07/18/10 02:35:00
