[digitalradio] Re: RTTY and mode selection on radios

2010-02-19 Thread jhaynesatalumni
If the radio has RTTY as a mode, as does the TS-940 for
example, it means (1) there is an input on the back where
you put in a baseband signal and FSK comes out the antenna,
and (2) for receiving it will use a narrow filter and 
center the filter up around 2.2 KHz.  (By baseband I
mean the actualy RTTY signal at 45.45 baud, as would come
out of a Teletype keyboard.)  In the case of the TS-940
and other radios there is a misfeature that in SSB mode
you can't get the narrow filter switched in; you have
to use RTTY or CW mode to get the narrow filter.

The main reason you want the narrow filter is to suppress
strong signals that are in the IF passband of the radio but
not in the middle of the signal you are trying to receive.
Such signals will affect the gain of the receiver through
AGC action, so that the level of the desired signal goes up
and down as those off-channel signals come and go.  So you
want the narrow filter to have the AGC focus on the signal you
are trying to receive.

The reason the receiver puts the filter up at 2.2 KHz in the
FSK mode is that in olden days FSK signals were translated to
audio, originally at 2125 and 2975 Hz, later changed to 2125
and 2295 when 170 Hz shift came into use.  So if you were
using a typical RTTY terminal unit for receiving its input
frequency range would be up there.

Jim W6JVE






[digitalradio] Re: RTTY and mode selection on radios

2010-02-19 Thread jhaynesatalumni


--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Becker, WØJAB w0...@... wrote:

 RTTY  should  be used in the LSB mode regardless of the band.

Well thats when you aren't using the FSK mode for RTTY; the FSK
mode does put it into LSB.
  
 I don't use software for RTTY so I cant tell you a thing about that.

Users of software for RTTY have come around to using USB regardless
of band, just for the sake of uniformity.  In that case they use
a reverse shift switch in the software to make the signals come out
right side up.



Re: [digitalradio] Re: RTTY and mode selection on radios

2010-02-19 Thread DANNY DOUGLAS
I use USB dfor FSK, simply because I want the low side of the signals to show 
up on the left side of the waterfall, and the high frequencies to show up to 
the right.  Because that puts me opposite than the normal signals, I run both 
send and receive with the reverse button clicked.'

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  - Original Message - 
  From: jhaynesatalumni 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 5:44 PM
  Subject: [digitalradio] Re: RTTY and mode selection on radios





  --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Becker, WØJAB w0...@... wrote:
  
   RTTY should be used in the LSB mode regardless of the band.

  Well thats when you aren't using the FSK mode for RTTY; the FSK
  mode does put it into LSB.
   
   I don't use software for RTTY so I cant tell you a thing about that.
  
  Users of software for RTTY have come around to using USB regardless
  of band, just for the sake of uniformity. In that case they use
  a reverse shift switch in the software to make the signals come out
  right side up.



  

Re: [digitalradio] Re: RTTY and mode selection on radios

2010-02-19 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
Of course.

Not being a sound card guy when it comes to RTTY.

John, W0JAB


At 04:56 PM 2/19/2010, you wrote:


I use USB dfor FSK, simply because I want the low side of the signals to show 
up on the left side of the waterfall, and the high frequencies to show up to 
the right.  Because that puts me opposite than the normal signals, I run 
both send and receive with the reverse button clicked.'
 
Danny Douglas