Re: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band

2010-02-03 Thread Andy obrien
Kevin, I am using the SDR-IQ.  I will Skype you when I see you on line and
we can have a natter about it.
Andy K3UK


2010/2/2 Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey  Rochelle spar...@gmail.com



 Andy,

 What SDR board are you using?
 Would be interested in getting into this type of radio, but would like to
 dip my toes first before placing down a few $K for one.

 Regards

 Kevin, ZL1KFM.

 [image: My status]
 Get Skype http://www.skype.com/go/download and call me for free.

  - Original Message -
 *From:* Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com
 *To:* digitalradio digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:11 AM
 *Subject:* [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band

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Re: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band

2010-02-02 Thread Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey Rochelle
Andy,

What SDR board are you using?
Would be interested in getting into this type of radio, but would like to dip 
my toes first before placing down a few $K for one.

Regards

Kevin, ZL1KFM.

 
Get Skype and call me for free.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Andy obrien 
  To: digitalradio 
  Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:11 AM
  Subject: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band


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RE: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band

2010-02-02 Thread Simon HB9DRV
Hi Kevin,

 

You can try this - for free! The console from SDR-RADIO.com can connect to a
remote SDR radio, here's a list of currently running servers:

 

http://www.sdr-radio.com/OnAirServers/tabid/186/Default.aspx

 

The list is growing by the week. In the words of a prophet - Taste and
Enjoy!

 

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

http://sdr-radio.com

 

From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey  Rochelle



Andy,

 

What SDR board are you using?

Would be interested in getting into this type of radio, but would like to
dip my toes first before placing down a few $K for one.

 



Re: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band

2010-02-02 Thread Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey Rochelle
G'Day Simon,

Thanks for the info. I have downloaded the software and I am currently 
listening to ur RX.
Good copy, but get a bit of speaker crackle and it stutters at times, but that 
could be because I'm  using WiFi.
Would be interesting to see if I could hear myself at any of these remotes, be 
an interesting test.

I still would like to build a SDR RX, I did see a couple of websites awhile 
ago, will have to search them out again.

Regards

Kevin, ZL1KFM.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Simon HB9DRV 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:21 AM
  Subject: RE: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band




  Hi Kevin,



  You can try this - for free! The console from SDR-RADIO.com can connect to a 
remote SDR radio, here's a list of currently running servers:



  http://www.sdr-radio.com/OnAirServers/tabid/186/Default.aspx



  The list is growing by the week. In the words of a prophet - Taste and Enjoy!



  Simon Brown, HB9DRV

  http://sdr-radio.com



  From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey  Rochelle



  Andy,



  What SDR board are you using?

  Would be interested in getting into this type of radio, but would like to dip 
my toes first before placing down a few $K for one.




  

RE: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band

2010-02-02 Thread Simon HB9DRV
Hi,

 

Stutter - select AF Gain in the ribbon bar and increase the Queue Size.

 

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

http://sdr-radio.com

 

From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey  Rochelle



 

Thanks for the info. I have downloaded the software and I am currently
listening to ur RX.

Good copy, but get a bit of speaker crackle and it stutters at times, but
that could be because I'm  using WiFi.

Would be interesting to see if I could hear myself at any of these remotes,
be an interesting test.

 



Re: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band

2010-01-30 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Tony,

According to my tests, it is only the capacity to do calculations which is the 
key, as a lot of digital processng is done (for example for SDR or Panoramics). 
I don't think RAM is important. I mean either you have sufficient memory or you 
have not (and you will have a  message error). But if you have enough, having 
double or four more that the minimum does not change anything.

Note: with or without BPSK31 panoramic, I have about 2 % of CPU usage.

73
Patrick


  - Original Message - 
  From: Tony 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 4:35 AM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band





  Patrick,

  Thanks for the information. As you may have read from my reply to Andy, my 
CPU usage seems to be very low with Multipsk. It's well below 10%. 

  Is there a particular Multipsk mode or configuration that would tax the 
system? I'd like to try it and see how it affects CPU usage. 

  Merci mon ami... 

  Tony -K2MO

- Original Message - 
From: Patrick Lindecker 
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band


  

Hello Tony,

I have here two PC XP at about 2.4 GHz (single core):

I have compare these two XP computers on the same file to decode (in 110A):
* the first one (the oldest) which is an AMD Atlon 2500+ 1.09 GHz 768 Ko 
RAM takes 75 seconds to decode it,
* the second one which is an AMD Atlon 2400+ 2 GHz 736 Ko RAM takes 20 
seconds to decode it.

On the most modern (about 3 years old) with SdR and RS ID detection on 44 
KHz, the CPU load is about 35 to 40 %, but on the old one it is 100 % (the 
program does not work in fact).

So normally with a modern PC it is OK. With an old PC, it can be 
problematic.

Note: with my Vista laptop (dual core), the CPU load is about 25 % in the 
same conditions.

73
Patrick



  - Original Message - 
  From: Tony 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 8:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band


   Andy,

  I plan on switching to SDR in the near future. My current PC is a dual 
CPU 2.2GHz Dell with 3 GHz RAM. Any idea what the minimum PC requirement is to 
run Multipsk with SDR? Could you also tell us what processor you're running now?

  Thanks,  

  Tony -K2MO 

- Original Message - 
From: Andy obrien 
To: digitalradio 
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 9:11 AM
Subject: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band


  
One of the things that I wanted to accomplish with an SDR receiver,
is the ability to keep an eye on the whole 14065 to 14115 frequency
range. If I was down on 14074 monitoring ALE 400 traffic, I would
miss Olivia signals that popped up in the 14109 area. I would also
miss Hell signals at 14068. Now the SDR affords the opportunity to
keep an eye all all at once. My venture in to SDR from a digital mode
perspective has led to a discovery that, other than Multipsk, the
current state of the art does not support direct monitoring of wider
I/Q data. I'm also challenged in that my PC cannot cope with the
Multipsk CPU demand when I try direct monitoring. So, at the moment I
am visually monitoring signals with the SDR and using traditional
software methods to decode the 3-4 kHz of audio that is fed from the
SDR to applications like DM780 or Fldigi.

At this screen shot http://www.obriensweb.com/sdrdm780.jpg

you will see how it appears. I am simply using DM780 and SDR-Radio
software together. When I need to transmit, I just use my TS2000
after dialing in the signal discovered by the SDR receiver. Simon
HB9DRV will likely integrate these two applications later in 2010.

I did catch a Russian on RTTY this morning that I would have otherwise
missed while I was slumming it in PSK31-land.. Multisk does RS-ID
over this entire 14065-14115 portion, and DM780 is likely going to
include this ability in the future. If people use RS-ID often enough,
it will be really cool to monitor 14065-14115 and get RS ID alerts.

So, just over a week playing around with the SDR receiver... I see the
potential... digital mode applications are not quite there yet.
When they are there (as in Multipsk) my PC isn't. This $41.00 Ebay
PC may eventually get retired for a slightly improved one with better
CPU. OK, back to keeping an eye on 14065-14115. A-ha, an SV3 calling
CQ RTTY, 14082.

Andy K3UK








[digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band

2010-01-29 Thread Andy obrien
One of the things that I wanted to accomplish with an SDR receiver,
is the ability to keep an eye on the  whole 14065 to 14115 frequency
range.  If I was down on 14074 monitoring ALE 400  traffic, I would
miss Olivia signals that popped up in the 14109 area.  I would also
miss Hell signals at 14068.  Now the SDR affords the opportunity to
keep an eye all all at once.  My venture in to SDR from a digital mode
perspective has led to a discovery that,  other than Multipsk, the
current state of the art does not support direct monitoring of wider
I/Q data.  I'm also challenged in that my PC cannot cope with the
Multipsk CPU demand when I try direct monitoring.  So, at the moment I
am visually monitoring signals with the SDR and using traditional
software methods to decode the 3-4 kHz of audio that is fed from the
SDR to applications like DM780  or Fldigi.

At this screen shot http://www.obriensweb.com/sdrdm780.jpg

you will see how it appears.  I am simply using DM780 and SDR-Radio
software together.  When I need to transmit,  I just use my TS2000
after dialing in the signal discovered by the SDR receiver.  Simon
HB9DRV will likely integrate these two applications later in 2010.

I did catch a Russian on RTTY this morning that I would have otherwise
missed while I was slumming it in PSK31-land..  Multisk does RS-ID
over this entire 14065-14115 portion, and DM780 is likely going to
include this ability in the future.  If people use RS-ID often enough,
it will be really cool to monitor 14065-14115 and get RS ID alerts.

So, just over a week playing around with the SDR receiver... I see the
potential... digital mode applications are not quite there yet.
When they are there (as in Multipsk) my PC isn't.  This $41.00 Ebay
PC may eventually get retired for a slightly improved one with better
CPU. OK, back to keeping an eye on 14065-14115.  A-ha, an SV3 calling
CQ RTTY, 14082.

Andy K3UK


Re: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band

2010-01-29 Thread Tony
 Andy,

I plan on switching to SDR in the near future. My current PC 
is a dual CPU 2.2GHz Dell with 3 GHz RAM. Any idea what the 
minimum PC requirement is to run Multipsk with SDR? Could 
you also tell us what processor you're running now?

Thanks,

Tony -K2MO

  - Original Message - 
  From: Andy obrien
  To: digitalradio
  Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 9:11 AM
  Subject: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital 
Band



  One of the things that I wanted to accomplish with an SDR 
receiver,
  is the ability to keep an eye on the whole 14065 to 14115 
frequency
  range. If I was down on 14074 monitoring ALE 400 traffic, 
I would
  miss Olivia signals that popped up in the 14109 area. I 
would also
  miss Hell signals at 14068. Now the SDR affords the 
opportunity to
  keep an eye all all at once. My venture in to SDR from a 
digital mode
  perspective has led to a discovery that, other than 
Multipsk, the
  current state of the art does not support direct 
monitoring of wider
  I/Q data. I'm also challenged in that my PC cannot cope 
with the
  Multipsk CPU demand when I try direct monitoring. So, at 
the moment I
  am visually monitoring signals with the SDR and using 
traditional
  software methods to decode the 3-4 kHz of audio that is 
fed from the
  SDR to applications like DM780 or Fldigi.

  At this screen shot http://www.obriensweb.com/sdrdm780.jpg

  you will see how it appears. I am simply using DM780 and 
SDR-Radio
  software together. When I need to transmit, I just use my 
TS2000
  after dialing in the signal discovered by the SDR 
receiver. Simon
  HB9DRV will likely integrate these two applications 
later in 2010.

  I did catch a Russian on RTTY this morning that I would 
have otherwise
  missed while I was slumming it in PSK31-land.. Multisk 
does RS-ID
  over this entire 14065-14115 portion, and DM780 is likely 
going to
  include this ability in the future. If people use RS-ID 
often enough,
  it will be really cool to monitor 14065-14115 and get RS 
ID alerts.

  So, just over a week playing around with the SDR 
receiver... I see the
  potential... digital mode applications are not quite 
there yet.
  When they are there (as in Multipsk) my PC isn't. This 
$41.00 Ebay
  PC may eventually get retired for a slightly improved one 
with better
  CPU. OK, back to keeping an eye on 14065-14115. A-ha, an 
SV3 calling
  CQ RTTY, 14082.

  Andy K3UK


   


Re: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band

2010-01-29 Thread Andy obrien
Tony, my shack PC sounds like yours.  A Dell P4, 2.3 CPU , but only 1 gig of
RAM.  Perhaps we can compare current system resource utilization for regular
Multipsk ?

Regular Multipsk in PSK31 mode with a 4,3 Khz waterfall uses 25 % of CPU.
With RS ID on , about the same 25-26%

With Panoramic decode.. CPU increases to around 30%.

Then Multipsk with Direct I/Q mode invoked  ,   CPU increases to 60%

Then RS ID in SDR /IQ direct  invoked, Multipsk uses 90% of my CPU.


The above is JUST Multipsk related, obviously other applications , like a
web browser being open, add more demand.

My daughter is away skiing this weekend, so I may borrow her Vista laptop
and do a comparison.  I do not know what is realistic  for Multipsk with all
its SDR receive capability and RS ID.  I don;t really understand what actual
performance increase one could expect if CPU was 3.0 Ghz rather than 2.3,
Also not sure what performance improvement going to a dual core around the
same clock speed would produce.  On my shack PC, Multipsk seems close , I
am guessing if I could eek out another 10%  it would run just fine.  I'm
reluctant to put more RAM in to an old machine, but I do have a compatible 1
Gig memory chip that i could pilfer from another PC and see if 2 gigs of RAM
ease demand on the CPU.  I'm guessing it would not make much difference.  I
do have plenty of HD space.


Hope you and the family are all OK,

Andy.





Andy








On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote:



  Andy,

 I plan on switching to SDR in the near future. My current PC is a dual CPU
 2.2GHz Dell with 3 GHz RAM. Any idea what the minimum PC requirement is to
 run Multipsk with SDR? Could you also tell us what processor you're running
 now?

 Thanks,

 Tony -K2MO


 - Original Message -
 *From:* Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com
 *To:* digitalradio digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Friday, January 29, 2010 9:11 AM
 *Subject:* [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band



 One of the things that I wanted to accomplish with an SDR receiver,
 is the ability to keep an eye on the whole 14065 to 14115 frequency
 range. If I was down on 14074 monitoring ALE 400 traffic, I would
 miss Olivia signals that popped up in the 14109 area. I would also
 miss Hell signals at 14068. Now the SDR affords the opportunity to
 keep an eye all all at once. My venture in to SDR from a digital mode
 perspective has led to a discovery that, other than Multipsk, the
 current state of the art does not support direct monitoring of wider
 I/Q data. I'm also challenged in that my PC cannot cope with the
 Multipsk CPU demand when I try direct monitoring. So, at the moment I
 am visually monitoring signals with the SDR and using traditional
 software methods to decode the 3-4 kHz of audio that is fed from the
 SDR to applications like DM780 or Fldigi.

 At this screen shot http://www.obriensweb.com/sdrdm780.jpg

 you will see how it appears. I am simply using DM780 and SDR-Radio
 software together. When I need to transmit, I just use my TS2000
 after dialing in the signal discovered by the SDR receiver. Simon
 HB9DRV will likely integrate these two applications later in 2010.

 I did catch a Russian on RTTY this morning that I would have otherwise
 missed while I was slumming it in PSK31-land.. Multisk does RS-ID
 over this entire 14065-14115 portion, and DM780 is likely going to
 include this ability in the future. If people use RS-ID often enough,
 it will be really cool to monitor 14065-14115 and get RS ID alerts.

 So, just over a week playing around with the SDR receiver... I see the
 potential... digital mode applications are not quite there yet.
 When they are there (as in Multipsk) my PC isn't. This $41.00 Ebay
 PC may eventually get retired for a slightly improved one with better
 CPU. OK, back to keeping an eye on 14065-14115. A-ha, an SV3 calling
 CQ RTTY, 14082.

 Andy K3UK

  



Re: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band

2010-01-29 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Tony,

I have here two PC XP at about 2.4 GHz (single core):

I have compare these two XP computers on the same file to decode (in 110A):
* the first one (the oldest) which is an AMD Atlon 2500+ 1.09 GHz 768 Ko RAM 
takes 75 seconds to decode it,
* the second one which is an AMD Atlon 2400+ 2 GHz 736 Ko RAM takes 20 seconds 
to decode it.

On the most modern (about 3 years old) with SdR and RS ID detection on 44 KHz, 
the CPU load is about 35 to 40 %, but on the old one it is 100 % (the program 
does not work in fact).

So normally with a modern PC it is OK. With an old PC, it can be problematic.

Note: with my Vista laptop (dual core), the CPU load is about 25 % in the same 
conditions.

73
Patrick



  - Original Message - 
  From: Tony 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 8:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band





   Andy,

  I plan on switching to SDR in the near future. My current PC is a dual CPU 
2.2GHz Dell with 3 GHz RAM. Any idea what the minimum PC requirement is to run 
Multipsk with SDR? Could you also tell us what processor you're running now?

  Thanks,  

  Tony -K2MO 

- Original Message - 
From: Andy obrien 
To: digitalradio 
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 9:11 AM
Subject: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band


  
One of the things that I wanted to accomplish with an SDR receiver,
is the ability to keep an eye on the whole 14065 to 14115 frequency
range. If I was down on 14074 monitoring ALE 400 traffic, I would
miss Olivia signals that popped up in the 14109 area. I would also
miss Hell signals at 14068. Now the SDR affords the opportunity to
keep an eye all all at once. My venture in to SDR from a digital mode
perspective has led to a discovery that, other than Multipsk, the
current state of the art does not support direct monitoring of wider
I/Q data. I'm also challenged in that my PC cannot cope with the
Multipsk CPU demand when I try direct monitoring. So, at the moment I
am visually monitoring signals with the SDR and using traditional
software methods to decode the 3-4 kHz of audio that is fed from the
SDR to applications like DM780 or Fldigi.

At this screen shot http://www.obriensweb.com/sdrdm780.jpg

you will see how it appears. I am simply using DM780 and SDR-Radio
software together. When I need to transmit, I just use my TS2000
after dialing in the signal discovered by the SDR receiver. Simon
HB9DRV will likely integrate these two applications later in 2010.

I did catch a Russian on RTTY this morning that I would have otherwise
missed while I was slumming it in PSK31-land.. Multisk does RS-ID
over this entire 14065-14115 portion, and DM780 is likely going to
include this ability in the future. If people use RS-ID often enough,
it will be really cool to monitor 14065-14115 and get RS ID alerts.

So, just over a week playing around with the SDR receiver... I see the
potential... digital mode applications are not quite there yet.
When they are there (as in Multipsk) my PC isn't. This $41.00 Ebay
PC may eventually get retired for a slightly improved one with better
CPU. OK, back to keeping an eye on 14065-14115. A-ha, an SV3 calling
CQ RTTY, 14082.

Andy K3UK







Re: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band [4 Attachments]

2010-01-29 Thread Tony

Andy,

I configured Multipsk as you described and the CPU usage 
seems to average about 5 percent. Panoramic mode is about 
the same. I've included a few screen shots so you could see 
the results.

Mixw seems to tax the CPU the same way as Multipsk does, but 
Fldigi needs a bit more to run - CPU usage jumped to 10%. I 
guess it's the difference in RAM.

Would like to hear how the Vista laptop works out. Please 
let use know.

Tony -K2MO

PS: We're about the same here Andy, thanks for asking. Still 
waiting for research to catch up with type-I. Hope all is 
well with you and yours my friend.





- Original Message - 
From: Andy obrien
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital 
Band



Tony, my shack PC sounds like yours.  A Dell P4, 2.3 CPU , 
but only 1 gig of RAM.  Perhaps we can compare current 
system resource utilization for regular Multipsk ?

Regular Multipsk in PSK31 mode with a 4,3 Khz waterfall uses 
25 % of CPU.
With RS ID on , about the same 25-26%

With Panoramic decode.. CPU increases to around 30%.

Then Multipsk with Direct I/Q mode invoked  ,   CPU 
increases to 60%

Then RS ID in SDR /IQ direct  invoked, Multipsk uses 90% of 
my CPU.


The above is JUST Multipsk related, obviously other 
applications , like a web browser being open, add more 
demand.

My daughter is away skiing this weekend, so I may borrow 
her Vista laptop and do a comparison.  I do not know what is 
realistic  for Multipsk with all its SDR receive capability 
and RS ID.  I don;t really understand what actual 
performance increase one could expect if CPU was 3.0 Ghz 
rather than 2.3, Also not sure what performance improvement 
going to a dual core around the same clock speed would 
produce.  On my shack PC, Multipsk seems close , I am 
guessing if I could eek out another 10%  it would run just 
fine.  I'm reluctant to put more RAM in to an old machine, 
but I do have a compatible 1 Gig memory chip that i could 
pilfer from another PC and see if 2 gigs of RAM ease demand 
on the CPU.  I'm guessing it would not make much difference. 
I do have plenty of HD space.


Hope you and the family are all OK,

Andy.





Andy









On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Tony d...@optonline.net 
wrote:


 Andy,

I plan on switching to SDR in the near future. My current PC 
is a dual CPU 2.2GHz Dell with 3 GHz RAM. Any idea what the 
minimum PC requirement is to run Multipsk with SDR? Could 
you also tell us what processor you're running now?

Thanks,

Tony -K2MO

- Original Message - 
From: Andy obrien
To: digitalradio
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 9:11 AM
Subject: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital 
Band



One of the things that I wanted to accomplish with an SDR 
receiver,
is the ability to keep an eye on the whole 14065 to 14115 
frequency
range. If I was down on 14074 monitoring ALE 400 traffic, I 
would
miss Olivia signals that popped up in the 14109 area. I 
would also
miss Hell signals at 14068. Now the SDR affords the 
opportunity to
keep an eye all all at once. My venture in to SDR from a 
digital mode
perspective has led to a discovery that, other than 
Multipsk, the
current state of the art does not support direct monitoring 
of wider
I/Q data. I'm also challenged in that my PC cannot cope with 
the
Multipsk CPU demand when I try direct monitoring. So, at the 
moment I
am visually monitoring signals with the SDR and using 
traditional
software methods to decode the 3-4 kHz of audio that is fed 
from the
SDR to applications like DM780 or Fldigi.

At this screen shot http://www.obriensweb.com/sdrdm780.jpg

you will see how it appears. I am simply using DM780 and 
SDR-Radio
software together. When I need to transmit, I just use my 
TS2000
after dialing in the signal discovered by the SDR receiver. 
Simon
HB9DRV will likely integrate these two applications later 
in 2010.

I did catch a Russian on RTTY this morning that I would have 
otherwise
missed while I was slumming it in PSK31-land.. Multisk does 
RS-ID
over this entire 14065-14115 portion, and DM780 is likely 
going to
include this ability in the future. If people use RS-ID 
often enough,
it will be really cool to monitor 14065-14115 and get RS 
ID alerts.

So, just over a week playing around with the SDR receiver... 
I see the
potential... digital mode applications are not quite there 
yet.
When they are there (as in Multipsk) my PC isn't. This 
$41.00 Ebay
PC may eventually get retired for a slightly improved one 
with better
CPU. OK, back to keeping an eye on 14065-14115. A-ha, an SV3 
calling
CQ RTTY, 14082.

Andy K3UK



 


Re: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band

2010-01-29 Thread Tony
Patrick,

Thanks for the information. As you may have read from my 
reply to Andy, my CPU usage seems to be very low with 
Multipsk. It's well below 10%.

Is there a particular Multipsk mode or configuration that 
would tax the system? I'd like to try it and see how it 
affects CPU usage.

Merci mon ami...

Tony -K2MO

  - Original Message - 
  From: Patrick Lindecker
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 4:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M 
Digital Band




  Hello Tony,

  I have here two PC XP at about 2.4 GHz (single core):

  I have compare these two XP computers on the same file to 
decode (in 110A):
  * the first one (the oldest) which is an AMD Atlon 2500+ 
1.09 GHz 768 Ko RAM takes 75 seconds to decode it,
  * the second one which is an AMD Atlon 2400+ 2 GHz 736 Ko 
RAM takes 20 seconds to decode it.

  On the most modern (about 3 years old) with SdR and RS ID 
detection on 44 KHz, the CPU load is about 35 to 40 %, but 
on the old one it is 100 % (the program does not work in 
fact).

  So normally with a modern PC it is OK. With an old PC, 
it can be problematic.

  Note: with my Vista laptop (dual core), the CPU load is 
about 25 % in the same conditions.

  73
  Patrick



- Original Message - 
From: Tony
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M 
Digital Band


 Andy,

I plan on switching to SDR in the near future. My 
current PC is a dual CPU 2.2GHz Dell with 3 GHz RAM. Any 
idea what the minimum PC requirement is to run Multipsk with 
SDR? Could you also tell us what processor you're running 
now?

Thanks,

Tony -K2MO

  - Original Message - 
  From: Andy obrien
  To: digitalradio
  Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 9:11 AM
  Subject: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M 
Digital Band



  One of the things that I wanted to accomplish with an 
SDR receiver,
  is the ability to keep an eye on the whole 14065 to 
14115 frequency
  range. If I was down on 14074 monitoring ALE 400 
traffic, I would
  miss Olivia signals that popped up in the 14109 area. 
I would also
  miss Hell signals at 14068. Now the SDR affords the 
opportunity to
  keep an eye all all at once. My venture in to SDR from 
a digital mode
  perspective has led to a discovery that, other than 
Multipsk, the
  current state of the art does not support direct 
monitoring of wider
  I/Q data. I'm also challenged in that my PC cannot 
cope with the
  Multipsk CPU demand when I try direct monitoring. So, 
at the moment I
  am visually monitoring signals with the SDR and using 
traditional
  software methods to decode the 3-4 kHz of audio that 
is fed from the
  SDR to applications like DM780 or Fldigi.

  At this screen shot 
http://www.obriensweb.com/sdrdm780.jpg

  you will see how it appears. I am simply using DM780 
and SDR-Radio
  software together. When I need to transmit, I just use 
my TS2000
  after dialing in the signal discovered by the SDR 
receiver. Simon
  HB9DRV will likely integrate these two applications 
later in 2010.

  I did catch a Russian on RTTY this morning that I 
would have otherwise
  missed while I was slumming it in PSK31-land.. Multisk 
does RS-ID
  over this entire 14065-14115 portion, and DM780 is 
likely going to
  include this ability in the future. If people use 
RS-ID often enough,
  it will be really cool to monitor 14065-14115 and 
get RS ID alerts.

  So, just over a week playing around with the SDR 
receiver... I see the
  potential... digital mode applications are not quite 
there yet.
  When they are there (as in Multipsk) my PC isn't. 
This $41.00 Ebay
  PC may eventually get retired for a slightly improved 
one with better
  CPU. OK, back to keeping an eye on 14065-14115. A-ha, 
an SV3 calling
  CQ RTTY, 14082.

  Andy K3UK