Re: AW: AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster

2010-07-25 Thread Laurie, VK3AMA
Yes Dave,

Apart from my test PC virus/malware protection, whenever there is a 
change in an executable or dll I run them through an online scanner 
(20MB file limit) here  http://virusscan.jotti.org/en/

It runs the submitted file through 19 different scanners, with the 
occasional false-positive on one or two. Results of the scans are shared 
with the anti-virus companies.

The site generates a permalink for each file that allows you to 
distribute the scanning results to whomever.

Just ran the 3 executables through the site

Cluster.exe
 
http://virusscan.jotti.org/en/scanresult/7142b3c4c3e3076d5f55aa826a272678a67d1cbb

PSKReporter.exe
 
http://virusscan.jotti.org/en/scanresult/b8e275b738f1634bcc24fa081b1a83eb27e1289c

ROS v4.8.4 Beta.exe
 
http://virusscan.jotti.org/en/scanresult/e6e6238fb976a46d4db4dae564d59c5f2757ab73

de Laurie, VK3AMA


On 25/07/2010 1:29 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote:
 

 Has anyone checked to see whether the ROS code contains a keylogger,
 trojans, or a rootkit?
 73,
 Dave, AA6YQ



AW: AW: AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster

2010-07-25 Thread Siegfried Jackstien
@rein

Function can be switched off (now) .. So why worry about?

But all user have to switch it off cause after installing it is set to on .

Greetz

Sigi

Dg9bfc



RE: AW: AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster

2010-07-25 Thread Dave AA6YQ
Thanks, Laurie.

 73,

   Dave, AA6YQ

-Original Message-
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on 
Behalf Of Laurie, VK3AMA
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 3:08 AM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: AW: AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster


  
Yes Dave,

Apart from my test PC virus/malware protection, whenever there is a 
change in an executable or dll I run them through an online scanner 
(20MB file limit) here  http://virusscan.jotti.org/en/

It runs the submitted file through 19 different scanners, with the 
occasional false-positive on one or two. Results of the scans are shared 
with the anti-virus companies.

The site generates a permalink for each file that allows you to 
distribute the scanning results to whomever.

Just ran the 3 executables through the site

Cluster.exe

http://virusscan.jotti.org/en/scanresult/7142b3c4c3e3076d5f55aa826a272678a67d1cbb

PSKReporter.exe

http://virusscan.jotti.org/en/scanresult/b8e275b738f1634bcc24fa081b1a83eb27e1289c

ROS v4.8.4 Beta.exe

http://virusscan.jotti.org/en/scanresult/e6e6238fb976a46d4db4dae564d59c5f2757ab73

de Laurie, VK3AMA

On 25/07/2010 1:29 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote:
 

 Has anyone checked to see whether the ROS code contains a keylogger,
 trojans, or a rootkit?
 73,
 Dave, AA6YQ





Re: AW: AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster

2010-07-25 Thread Kristoff Bonne
Laurie,


Then why don't they filter it at the cluster?
Makes more sence, if you ask me.



Cheerio! Kr. Bonne.


Op 25-07-10 04:01, Laurie, VK3AMA schreef:
 Because, outside the US, there is a large EU user-base of ROS users
 contributing a significant of unwanted spam to the Cluster.

 de Laurie, VK3AMA

 On 25/07/2010 11:28 AM, F.R. Ashley wrote:



 After reading endless posts about this software, I sincerely wonder why in
 heck anyone is even using it.  What are the chances of giving it a rest?

 73 Buddy WB4M



 

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 Facebook= http://www.facebook.com/pages/digitalradio/123270301037522

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Re: AW: AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster

2010-07-25 Thread Steinar Aanesland
 Hi Laurie


Great link! Thanks :)

La5vna Steinar




On 25.07.2010 09:07, Laurie, VK3AMA wrote:
 Yes Dave,

 Apart from my test PC virus/malware protection, whenever there is a
 change in an executable or dll I run them through an online scanner
 (20MB file limit) here  http://virusscan.jotti.org/en/

 It runs the submitted file through 19 different scanners, with the
 occasional false-positive on one or two. Results of the scans are shared
 with the anti-virus companies.

 The site generates a permalink for each file that allows you to
 distribute the scanning results to whomever.

 Just ran the 3 executables through the site

 Cluster.exe
 

http://virusscan.jotti.org/en/scanresult/7142b3c4c3e3076d5f55aa826a272678a67d1cbb

 PSKReporter.exe
 

http://virusscan.jotti.org/en/scanresult/b8e275b738f1634bcc24fa081b1a83eb27e1289c

 ROS v4.8.4 Beta.exe
 

http://virusscan.jotti.org/en/scanresult/e6e6238fb976a46d4db4dae564d59c5f2757ab73

 de Laurie, VK3AMA


 On 25/07/2010 1:29 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote:
 

 Has anyone checked to see whether the ROS code contains a keylogger,
 trojans, or a rootkit?
 73,
 Dave, AA6YQ






AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster

2010-07-25 Thread Siegfried Jackstien
A safety pin on a gun, doesn't make the gun less destructive Sigi...

 

Right but prevents loosing a shot by accident while the gun is in your
pocket

There are still users that do not know what is the soft doing in the
background as not all users read the news (this group and others)

 

If every user switches the function off it is like jose never programmed it

He uses the same triggers for the psk reporter page (map view)

So why not just switch spots off and enjoy the nice view on the map

We can use the programmed (hardcoded) clusters for sending INTERRESTING
spots by hand

So just use what we have with the needed options

I do not like that joses soft is spamming the clusters

As some sysops do not forward ros spots anymore jose has to change them in
every new version

If spots were set to off nobody would be angry about some hand spotted calls

The massive flooding (about 20 + spot per hour) is the problem

So the safety pin is fine 

But in a new installed version the pin is set to unsafe

Greetz

Sigi



AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster

2010-07-24 Thread Siegfried Jackstien
Iin the tab skets click on cluster

There you can send spots manually and switch off the autospotting

I let the newest version run for a few hours  not autospots were sent
when switch was off

You can send autogenerated and in downloaded newest version the switch is
set normally to on . so as the users do not switch it off (or using old
version) there is the reason for the soft still sending spots

So all users should manually switch that function off ! ! !

Psk reporter sends to the map

Cluster sends to telnet

Ros sends on air and the emails via gmail

As the autospot can now be switched off we have what we wanted ..

What about an autospot configurable by user (only send spots more than xy km
distance)

Hope you find that switch hi hi

Greetz

Sigi

Dg9bfc



Re: AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster

2010-07-24 Thread Steinar Aanesland

Aha, this switch was not implemented in the version 4.8.2 that I was
testing.

la5vna Steinar



On 24.07.2010 16:23, Siegfried Jackstien wrote:
 Iin the tab skets click on cluster

 There you can send spots manually and switch off the autospotting

 I let the newest version run for a few hours  not autospots were sent
 when switch was off

 You can send autogenerated and in downloaded newest version the switch is
 set normally to on . so as the users do not switch it off (or using old
 version) there is the reason for the soft still sending spots

 So all users should manually switch that function off ! ! !

 Psk reporter sends to the map

 Cluster sends to telnet

 Ros sends on air and the emails via gmail

 As the autospot can now be switched off we have what we wanted ..

 What about an autospot configurable by user (only send spots more than
xy km
 distance)

 Hope you find that switch hi hi

 Greetz

 Sigi

 Dg9bfc






AW: AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster

2010-07-24 Thread Siegfried Jackstien
Glad i could help

 

Iif you do NOT use cat the autogenerated spots on 20m are sent as 14000 . so
not correct

But when sending by hand qrg is correct

I asked jose if he can solve that . that a user without can do not send
wrong qrg . maybe he will find a solution for that

As we have now the autoreport to pskreporter we do not need the autospots
anymore (but jose thinks it is still needed)

So every user should switch that off and spot only by hand

Greetz sigi

 



Re: AW: AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster

2010-07-24 Thread Laurie, VK3AMA
Hi Sigi,
Jose uses Cluster Auto-Spots to advertise his software. The more spots, 
the more it appears to be a popular mode to the uninformed Cluster User.

Jose, clearly doesn't understand the Ham/Cluster culture.
Maybe we can change his attitude by passing on these concerns to his 
Beta-Tester who might be better placed to change his mind.

I know who the Beta-Tester is, email me privately and I will pass on the 
info (no it is not me, Hi)

de Laurie, VK3AMA


On 25/07/2010 5:50 AM, Siegfried Jackstien wrote:


 As we have now the autoreport to pskreporter we do not need the
 autospots anymore (but jose thinks it is still needed)



Re: AW: AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster

2010-07-24 Thread rein0zn
Lauri,

Why is it, that only a handful of amateurs seem to be concerned about this? 
If people said we do not use the program until this is fixed, I am sure
it would get fixed in an hurry.

73 Rein W6SZ


-Original Message-
From: Laurie, VK3AMA group...@vkdxer.com
Sent: Jul 24, 2010 6:44 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: AW: AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster

Hi Sigi,
Jose uses Cluster Auto-Spots to advertise his software. The more spots, 
the more it appears to be a popular mode to the uninformed Cluster User.

Jose, clearly doesn't understand the Ham/Cluster culture.
Maybe we can change his attitude by passing on these concerns to his 
Beta-Tester who might be better placed to change his mind.

I know who the Beta-Tester is, email me privately and I will pass on the 
info (no it is not me, Hi)

de Laurie, VK3AMA


On 25/07/2010 5:50 AM, Siegfried Jackstien wrote:


 As we have now the autoreport to pskreporter we do not need the
 autospots anymore (but jose thinks it is still needed)





http://www.obriensweb.com/digispotter.html
Chat, Skeds, and Spots all in one (resize to suit)

Facebook= http://www.facebook.com/pages/digitalradio/123270301037522

Yahoo! Groups Links






Re: AW: AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster

2010-07-24 Thread KH6TY
  Jose uses Cluster Auto-Spots to advertise his software. The more spots,
  the more it appears to be a popular mode to the uninformed Cluster User.

To me, this attempted deception has been obvious ever since the issue of 
any auto-spots came up.

Isn't there any honesty at all possible with this author! :-(

This wholesale abuse of ham radio traditions and spamming clusters, etc. 
by this author, is just not acceptable, and to my knowledge has never 
been done before.

73, Skip KH6TY


Re: AW: AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster

2010-07-24 Thread F.R. Ashley

] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster


  Jose uses Cluster Auto-Spots to advertise his software. The more spots,
  the more it appears to be a popular mode to the uninformed Cluster 
 User.

 To me, this attempted deception has been obvious ever since the issue of
 any auto-spots came up.

 Isn't there any honesty at all possible with this author! :-(

 This wholesale abuse of ham radio traditions and spamming clusters, etc.
 by this author, is just not acceptable, and to my knowledge has never
 been done before.

 73, Skip KH6TY


After reading endless posts about this software, I sincerely wonder why in 
heck anyone is even using it.  What are the chances of giving it a rest?

73 Buddy WB4M 



Re: AW: AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster

2010-07-24 Thread Laurie, VK3AMA
Because, outside the US, there is a large EU user-base of ROS users 
contributing a significant of unwanted spam to the Cluster.

de Laurie, VK3AMA

On 25/07/2010 11:28 AM, F.R. Ashley wrote:


 After reading endless posts about this software, I sincerely wonder why in
 heck anyone is even using it.  What are the chances of giving it a rest?

 73 Buddy WB4M



 

 http://www.obriensweb.com/digispotter.html
 Chat, Skeds, and Spots all in one (resize to suit)

 Facebook= http://www.facebook.com/pages/digitalradio/123270301037522

 Yahoo! Groups Links






Re: AW: AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster

2010-07-24 Thread Laurie, VK3AMA
Because, outside the US, there is a large EU user-base of ROS users 
contributing a significant of unwanted spam to the Cluster.

de Laurie, VK3AMA

On 25/07/2010 11:28 AM, F.R. Ashley wrote:


 After reading endless posts about this software, I sincerely wonder why in
 heck anyone is even using it.  What are the chances of giving it a rest?

 73 Buddy WB4M



 

 http://www.obriensweb.com/digispotter.html
 Chat, Skeds, and Spots all in one (resize to suit)

 Facebook= http://www.facebook.com/pages/digitalradio/123270301037522

 Yahoo! Groups Links






RE: AW: AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster

2010-07-24 Thread Dave AA6YQ
Has anyone checked to see whether the ROS code contains a keylogger, trojans, 
or a rootkit?

 73,

  Dave, AA6YQ

   
-Original Message-
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on 
Behalf Of KH6TY
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 7:37 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: AW: AW: AW: [digitalradio] ROS v 4.8.X not spamming cluster


  
 Jose uses Cluster Auto-Spots to advertise his software. The more spots,
 the more it appears to be a popular mode to the uninformed Cluster User.

To me, this attempted deception has been obvious ever since the issue of 
any auto-spots came up.

Isn't there any honesty at all possible with this author! :-(

This wholesale abuse of ham radio traditions and spamming clusters, etc. 
by this author, is just not acceptable, and to my knowledge has never 
been done before.

73, Skip KH6TY