Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion

2007-10-21 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Andy, where can I get NBEMS. Is it  "free" to use ?
On David's web side http://www.w1hkj.com , I only see something called flarq
(fast light automatic repeat request)

And what about making a windows version of this PSK  (31, 63, 125, 250)
ARQ mode?
(no religious Linux/Windows quarrel now folks)

73 de LA5VNA Steinar





Andrew O'Brien skrev:
>
> Omar, good evening.
> It is a program that uses PSK  (31, 63, 125, 250) .  It can use
> regular PSK for keyboard chats but you can also decide to use PSK with
> ARQ if you want to send a text file or email where accuracy is
> important.  The software works only under Linux, so the authors have
> developed a boot disc that one uses in a Windows PC.  You burn the ISO
> file to a CD and insert it in a CD ROM drive, the Linux operating
> system boots up.  You select a keyboard setting for you country and a
> video monitor setting.  When the software boots up, you need to select
> FL-digi and go to the CONFIG area, insert your callsign. In the config
> area you can also choose your soudncard settings and PTT/rig control
> settings.  If you want to use the ARQ side of things, you click on
> FLARQ, when it boots up you must also insert your callsign in it's
> config area. 
>
> Andy K3UK
>
> On 10/21/07, *Omar Shabsigh* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
> Folks,
>  
> What is NBEMS please?
>  
> Omar YK1AO
>  
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Rick <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
>     <mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 20, 2007 4:52 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency
> suggestion
>
> I too downloaded the .iso yesterday and immediately burned a
> CD to boot
> both of my computers. While I do not expect Linux to be able
> to properly
> drive my Samsung SyncMaster 225BW monitor to its native
> resolution, I
> can usually get by with one of the other resolutions. Even
> though not
> acceptable for normal use, it can work well enough for
> experimental use.
>
> The problem with both computers is that the program tends to
> lock up and
> crash or if it does key up I get a kind of machine gun sound
> in the
> audio coming from the sound card. This was also true of a
> previous
> version. Almost like an interruption in the stream. Now the
> curious
> thing is that in the past one one boot disk I was testing had
> another
> digital program which worked quite well. Could I possibly be
> correct
> that it was Digipan running under Wine? Even the audio
> settings were
> right on with that program, but on the same boot disk the main
> flDigi
> program would not run properly. Has anyone else had this problem?
>
> In order for PSKmail or NBEMS to even have any realistic
> chance at being
> used here in the U.S., it simply has to run under Windows at
> this time.
> Dual boots or Boot disk approaches are not adequate for
> practical use,
> although they can give you a feel for the program. Hopefully
> many of you
> are having better luck than I am.
>
> With a Windows version you could avoid the downsides of Linux.
> Although
> ten years from now it may be a different story, it was about
> ten years
> ago that I predicted that Linux OS would be a major desktop
> player in 5
> years. You could say that I was a bit wrong on that call:(
>
> 73,
>
> Rick, KV9U
>
> Rud Merriam wrote:
> > I just burned the CD. I will setup the laptop and rig to try
> on these
> > frequencies and nearby. Probably operational in 20-30 minutes.
> >
> > Rud Merriam K5RUD
> > ARES AEC Montgomery County, TX
> > http://TheHamNetwork.net <http://TheHamNetwork.net>
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com>] On
> > Behalf Of Andrew O'Brien
> > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:35 PM
> > To: DIGITALRADIO
> > Subject: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF 

Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion

2007-10-21 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Omar, good evening.
It is a program that uses PSK  (31, 63, 125, 250) .  It can use regular PSK
for keyboard chats but you can also decide to use PSK with ARQ if you want
to send a text file or email where accuracy is important.  The software
works only under Linux, so the authors have developed a boot disc that one
uses in a Windows PC.  You burn the ISO file to a CD and insert it in a CD
ROM drive, the Linux operating system boots up.  You select a keyboard
setting for you country and a video monitor setting.  When the software
boots up, you need to select FL-digi and go to the CONFIG area, insert your
callsign. In the config area you can also choose your soudncard settings and
PTT/rig control settings.  If you want to use the ARQ side of things, you
click on FLARQ, when it boots up you must also insert your callsign in it's
config area.

Andy K3UK

On 10/21/07, Omar Shabsigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Folks,
>
> What is NBEMS please?
>
> Omar YK1AO
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 20, 2007 4:52 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion
>
>  I too downloaded the .iso yesterday and immediately burned a CD to boot
> both of my computers. While I do not expect Linux to be able to properly
> drive my Samsung SyncMaster 225BW monitor to its native resolution, I
> can usually get by with one of the other resolutions. Even though not
> acceptable for normal use, it can work well enough for experimental use.
>
> The problem with both computers is that the program tends to lock up and
> crash or if it does key up I get a kind of machine gun sound in the
> audio coming from the sound card. This was also true of a previous
> version. Almost like an interruption in the stream. Now the curious
> thing is that in the past one one boot disk I was testing had another
> digital program which worked quite well. Could I possibly be correct
> that it was Digipan running under Wine? Even the audio settings were
> right on with that program, but on the same boot disk the main flDigi
> program would not run properly. Has anyone else had this problem?
>
> In order for PSKmail or NBEMS to even have any realistic chance at being
> used here in the U.S., it simply has to run under Windows at this time.
> Dual boots or Boot disk approaches are not adequate for practical use,
> although they can give you a feel for the program. Hopefully many of you
> are having better luck than I am.
>
> With a Windows version you could avoid the downsides of Linux. Although
> ten years from now it may be a different story, it was about ten years
> ago that I predicted that Linux OS would be a major desktop player in 5
> years. You could say that I was a bit wrong on that call:(
>
> 73,
>
> Rick, KV9U
>
> Rud Merriam wrote:
> > I just burned the CD. I will setup the laptop and rig to try on these
> > frequencies and nearby. Probably operational in 20-30 minutes.
> >
> > Rud Merriam K5RUD
> > ARES AEC Montgomery County, TX
> > http://TheHamNetwork.net
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> digitalradio@yahoogroups.com ] On
> > Behalf Of Andrew O'Brien
> > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:35 PM
> > To: DIGITALRADIO
> > Subject: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion
> >
> >
> > Aside from 6M and 2M , where I had good results with NBEMS, I am anxious
> to
> > try it on HF. I will assume that the low bands will make fast PSK too
> > difficult but PSK125 and 63 with ARQ is worth testing on HF. NBEMS has a
> > nice bacon feature , and a beacon feature too. I would like to suggest a
> > 20M and 40M testing frequency for this weekend, I will suggest 14073
> (dial
> > frequency) and/or 7073 . Please
> > QRL first, and move up or down a tad if the frequency is busy. I
> > will be on tonight and tomorrow night with my beacon (when at the
> keyboard).
> >
> >
> >
>
>  
>



-- 
Andy K3UK
www.obriensweb.com
(QSL via N2RJ)


Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion

2007-10-21 Thread Darrel Smith

Narrow Band Emergency Messaging System (NBEMS)



Darrel VE7CUS

On 21-Oct-07, at 8:18 AM, Omar Shabsigh wrote:



Folks,

What is NBEMS please?

Omar YK1AO





Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion

2007-10-21 Thread Omar Shabsigh
Folks, 

What is NBEMS please?

Omar YK1AO

  - Original Message - 
  From: Rick 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 4:52 AM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion


  I too downloaded the .iso yesterday and immediately burned a CD to boot 
  both of my computers. While I do not expect Linux to be able to properly 
  drive my Samsung SyncMaster 225BW monitor to its native resolution, I 
  can usually get by with one of the other resolutions. Even though not 
  acceptable for normal use, it can work well enough for experimental use.

  The problem with both computers is that the program tends to lock up and 
  crash or if it does key up I get a kind of machine gun sound in the 
  audio coming from the sound card. This was also true of a previous 
  version. Almost like an interruption in the stream. Now the curious 
  thing is that in the past one one boot disk I was testing had another 
  digital program which worked quite well. Could I possibly be correct 
  that it was Digipan running under Wine? Even the audio settings were 
  right on with that program, but on the same boot disk the main flDigi 
  program would not run properly. Has anyone else had this problem?

  In order for PSKmail or NBEMS to even have any realistic chance at being 
  used here in the U.S., it simply has to run under Windows at this time. 
  Dual boots or Boot disk approaches are not adequate for practical use, 
  although they can give you a feel for the program. Hopefully many of you 
  are having better luck than I am.

  With a Windows version you could avoid the downsides of Linux. Although 
  ten years from now it may be a different story, it was about ten years 
  ago that I predicted that Linux OS would be a major desktop player in 5 
  years. You could say that I was a bit wrong on that call:(

  73,

  Rick, KV9U

  Rud Merriam wrote:
  > I just burned the CD. I will setup the laptop and rig to try on these
  > frequencies and nearby. Probably operational in 20-30 minutes. 
  > 
  > Rud Merriam K5RUD 
  > ARES AEC Montgomery County, TX
  > http://TheHamNetwork.net
  >
  >
  > -Original Message-
  > From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  > Behalf Of Andrew O'Brien
  > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:35 PM
  > To: DIGITALRADIO
  > Subject: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion
  >
  >
  > Aside from 6M and 2M , where I had good results with NBEMS, I am anxious to
  > try it on HF. I will assume that the low bands will make fast PSK too
  > difficult but PSK125 and 63 with ARQ is worth testing on HF. NBEMS has a
  > nice bacon feature , and a beacon feature too. I would like to suggest a
  > 20M and 40M testing frequency for this weekend, I will suggest 14073 (dial
  > frequency) and/or 7073 . Please
  > QRL first, and move up or down a tad if the frequency is busy. I
  > will be on tonight and tomorrow night with my beacon (when at the keyboard).
  >
  >
  > 



   

Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion

2007-10-19 Thread Rick
I too downloaded the .iso yesterday and immediately burned a CD to boot 
both of my computers. While I do not expect Linux to be able to properly 
drive my Samsung SyncMaster 225BW monitor to its native resolution, I 
can usually get by with one of the other resolutions. Even though not 
acceptable for normal use, it can work well enough for experimental use.

The problem with both computers is that the program tends to lock up and 
crash or if it does key up I get a kind of machine gun sound in the 
audio coming from the sound card. This was also true of a previous 
version. Almost like an interruption in the stream. Now the curious 
thing is that in the past one one boot disk I was testing had another 
digital program which worked quite well. Could I possibly be correct 
that it was Digipan running under Wine? Even the audio settings were 
right on with that program, but on the same boot disk the main flDigi 
program would not run properly. Has anyone else had this problem?

In order for PSKmail or NBEMS to even have any realistic chance at being 
used here in the U.S., it simply has to run under Windows at this time. 
Dual boots or Boot disk approaches are not adequate for practical use, 
although they can give you a feel for the program. Hopefully many of you 
are having better luck than I am.

With a Windows version you could avoid the downsides of Linux. Although 
ten years from now it may be a different story, it was about ten years 
ago that I predicted that Linux OS would be a major desktop player in 5 
years. You could say that I was a bit wrong on that call:(

73,

Rick, KV9U


Rud Merriam wrote:
> I just burned the CD. I will setup the laptop and rig to try on these
> frequencies and nearby. Probably operational in 20-30 minutes. 
>  
> Rud Merriam K5RUD 
> ARES AEC Montgomery County, TX
> http://TheHamNetwork.net
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Andrew O'Brien
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:35 PM
> To: DIGITALRADIO
> Subject: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion
>
>
> Aside from 6M and 2M , where I had good results  with NBEMS, I am anxious to
> try it  on HF.  I will assume that the low bands will make fast PSK too
> difficult but PSK125 and 63 with ARQ is worth testing on HF.  NBEMS has a
> nice bacon feature , and  a beacon feature too.  I would like to suggest a
> 20M and 40M testing frequency  for this weekend,  I will suggest 14073 (dial
> frequency) and/or 7073 .  Please
> QRL first, and move up or down a tad if the frequency is busy.I
> will be on tonight and tomorrow night with my beacon (when at the keyboard).
>
>
>   



RE: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion

2007-10-19 Thread Rud Merriam
I just burned the CD. I will setup the laptop and rig to try on these
frequencies and nearby. Probably operational in 20-30 minutes. 
 
Rud Merriam K5RUD 
ARES AEC Montgomery County, TX
http://TheHamNetwork.net


-Original Message-
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Andrew O'Brien
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:35 PM
To: DIGITALRADIO
Subject: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion


Aside from 6M and 2M , where I had good results  with NBEMS, I am anxious to
try it  on HF.  I will assume that the low bands will make fast PSK too
difficult but PSK125 and 63 with ARQ is worth testing on HF.  NBEMS has a
nice bacon feature , and  a beacon feature too.  I would like to suggest a
20M and 40M testing frequency  for this weekend,  I will suggest 14073 (dial
frequency) and/or 7073 .  Please
QRL first, and move up or down a tad if the frequency is busy.I
will be on tonight and tomorrow night with my beacon (when at the keyboard).


-- 
Andy K3UK
www.obriensweb.com
(QSL via N2RJ)


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RE: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion

2007-10-18 Thread Rud Merriam
I will attempt to get on the air this weekend, also. Probably Friday evening
and Saturday afternoon.

My antenna is an NVIS 80m dipole so I may not cover much territory. 

 
Rud Merriam K5RUD 
ARES AEC Montgomery County, TX
http://TheHamNetwork.net


-Original Message-
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Andrew O'Brien
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:35 PM
To: DIGITALRADIO
Subject: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion


Aside from 6M and 2M , where I had good results  with NBEMS, I am anxious to
try it  on HF.  I will assume that the low bands will make fast PSK too
difficult but PSK125 and 63 with ARQ is worth testing on HF.  NBEMS has a
nice bacon feature , and  a beacon feature too.  I would like to suggest a
20M and 40M testing frequency  for this weekend,  I will suggest 14073 (dial
frequency) and/or 7073 .  Please
QRL first, and move up or down a tad if the frequency is busy.I
will be on tonight and tomorrow night with my beacon (when at the keyboard).


-- 
Andy K3UK
www.obriensweb.com
(QSL via N2RJ)


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