Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion

2007-10-21 Thread Omar Shabsigh
Folks, 

What is NBEMS please?

Omar YK1AO

  - Original Message - 
  From: Rick 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 4:52 AM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion


  I too downloaded the .iso yesterday and immediately burned a CD to boot 
  both of my computers. While I do not expect Linux to be able to properly 
  drive my Samsung SyncMaster 225BW monitor to its native resolution, I 
  can usually get by with one of the other resolutions. Even though not 
  acceptable for normal use, it can work well enough for experimental use.

  The problem with both computers is that the program tends to lock up and 
  crash or if it does key up I get a kind of machine gun sound in the 
  audio coming from the sound card. This was also true of a previous 
  version. Almost like an interruption in the stream. Now the curious 
  thing is that in the past one one boot disk I was testing had another 
  digital program which worked quite well. Could I possibly be correct 
  that it was Digipan running under Wine? Even the audio settings were 
  right on with that program, but on the same boot disk the main flDigi 
  program would not run properly. Has anyone else had this problem?

  In order for PSKmail or NBEMS to even have any realistic chance at being 
  used here in the U.S., it simply has to run under Windows at this time. 
  Dual boots or Boot disk approaches are not adequate for practical use, 
  although they can give you a feel for the program. Hopefully many of you 
  are having better luck than I am.

  With a Windows version you could avoid the downsides of Linux. Although 
  ten years from now it may be a different story, it was about ten years 
  ago that I predicted that Linux OS would be a major desktop player in 5 
  years. You could say that I was a bit wrong on that call:(

  73,

  Rick, KV9U

  Rud Merriam wrote:
   I just burned the CD. I will setup the laptop and rig to try on these
   frequencies and nearby. Probably operational in 20-30 minutes. 
   
   Rud Merriam K5RUD 
   ARES AEC Montgomery County, TX
   http://TheHamNetwork.net
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
   Behalf Of Andrew O'Brien
   Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:35 PM
   To: DIGITALRADIO
   Subject: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion
  
  
   Aside from 6M and 2M , where I had good results with NBEMS, I am anxious to
   try it on HF. I will assume that the low bands will make fast PSK too
   difficult but PSK125 and 63 with ARQ is worth testing on HF. NBEMS has a
   nice bacon feature , and a beacon feature too. I would like to suggest a
   20M and 40M testing frequency for this weekend, I will suggest 14073 (dial
   frequency) and/or 7073 . Please
   QRL first, and move up or down a tad if the frequency is busy. I
   will be on tonight and tomorrow night with my beacon (when at the keyboard).
  
  
   



   

Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion

2007-10-21 Thread Darrel Smith

Narrow Band Emergency Messaging System (NBEMS)



Darrel VE7CUS

On 21-Oct-07, at 8:18 AM, Omar Shabsigh wrote:



Folks,

What is NBEMS please?

Omar YK1AO





Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion

2007-10-21 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Omar, good evening.
It is a program that uses PSK  (31, 63, 125, 250) .  It can use regular PSK
for keyboard chats but you can also decide to use PSK with ARQ if you want
to send a text file or email where accuracy is important.  The software
works only under Linux, so the authors have developed a boot disc that one
uses in a Windows PC.  You burn the ISO file to a CD and insert it in a CD
ROM drive, the Linux operating system boots up.  You select a keyboard
setting for you country and a video monitor setting.  When the software
boots up, you need to select FL-digi and go to the CONFIG area, insert your
callsign. In the config area you can also choose your soudncard settings and
PTT/rig control settings.  If you want to use the ARQ side of things, you
click on FLARQ, when it boots up you must also insert your callsign in it's
config area.

Andy K3UK

On 10/21/07, Omar Shabsigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Folks,

 What is NBEMS please?

 Omar YK1AO


 - Original Message -
 *From:* Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, October 20, 2007 4:52 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion

  I too downloaded the .iso yesterday and immediately burned a CD to boot
 both of my computers. While I do not expect Linux to be able to properly
 drive my Samsung SyncMaster 225BW monitor to its native resolution, I
 can usually get by with one of the other resolutions. Even though not
 acceptable for normal use, it can work well enough for experimental use.

 The problem with both computers is that the program tends to lock up and
 crash or if it does key up I get a kind of machine gun sound in the
 audio coming from the sound card. This was also true of a previous
 version. Almost like an interruption in the stream. Now the curious
 thing is that in the past one one boot disk I was testing had another
 digital program which worked quite well. Could I possibly be correct
 that it was Digipan running under Wine? Even the audio settings were
 right on with that program, but on the same boot disk the main flDigi
 program would not run properly. Has anyone else had this problem?

 In order for PSKmail or NBEMS to even have any realistic chance at being
 used here in the U.S., it simply has to run under Windows at this time.
 Dual boots or Boot disk approaches are not adequate for practical use,
 although they can give you a feel for the program. Hopefully many of you
 are having better luck than I am.

 With a Windows version you could avoid the downsides of Linux. Although
 ten years from now it may be a different story, it was about ten years
 ago that I predicted that Linux OS would be a major desktop player in 5
 years. You could say that I was a bit wrong on that call:(

 73,

 Rick, KV9U

 Rud Merriam wrote:
  I just burned the CD. I will setup the laptop and rig to try on these
  frequencies and nearby. Probably operational in 20-30 minutes.
 
  Rud Merriam K5RUD
  ARES AEC Montgomery County, TX
  http://TheHamNetwork.net
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com[mailto:
 digitalradio@yahoogroups.com digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com] On
  Behalf Of Andrew O'Brien
  Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:35 PM
  To: DIGITALRADIO
  Subject: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion
 
 
  Aside from 6M and 2M , where I had good results with NBEMS, I am anxious
 to
  try it on HF. I will assume that the low bands will make fast PSK too
  difficult but PSK125 and 63 with ARQ is worth testing on HF. NBEMS has a
  nice bacon feature , and a beacon feature too. I would like to suggest a
  20M and 40M testing frequency for this weekend, I will suggest 14073
 (dial
  frequency) and/or 7073 . Please
  QRL first, and move up or down a tad if the frequency is busy. I
  will be on tonight and tomorrow night with my beacon (when at the
 keyboard).
 
 
 

  




-- 
Andy K3UK
www.obriensweb.com
(QSL via N2RJ)


Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion

2007-10-21 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Andy, where can I get NBEMS. Is it  free to use ?
On David's web side http://www.w1hkj.com , I only see something called flarq
(fast light automatic repeat request)

And what about making a windows version of this PSK  (31, 63, 125, 250)
ARQ mode?
(no religious Linux/Windows quarrel now folks)

73 de LA5VNA Steinar





Andrew O'Brien skrev:

 Omar, good evening.
 It is a program that uses PSK  (31, 63, 125, 250) .  It can use
 regular PSK for keyboard chats but you can also decide to use PSK with
 ARQ if you want to send a text file or email where accuracy is
 important.  The software works only under Linux, so the authors have
 developed a boot disc that one uses in a Windows PC.  You burn the ISO
 file to a CD and insert it in a CD ROM drive, the Linux operating
 system boots up.  You select a keyboard setting for you country and a
 video monitor setting.  When the software boots up, you need to select
 FL-digi and go to the CONFIG area, insert your callsign. In the config
 area you can also choose your soudncard settings and PTT/rig control
 settings.  If you want to use the ARQ side of things, you click on
 FLARQ, when it boots up you must also insert your callsign in it's
 config area. 

 Andy K3UK

 On 10/21/07, *Omar Shabsigh* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Folks,
  
 What is NBEMS please?
  
 Omar YK1AO
  

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Rick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, October 20, 2007 4:52 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency
 suggestion

 I too downloaded the .iso yesterday and immediately burned a
 CD to boot
 both of my computers. While I do not expect Linux to be able
 to properly
 drive my Samsung SyncMaster 225BW monitor to its native
 resolution, I
 can usually get by with one of the other resolutions. Even
 though not
 acceptable for normal use, it can work well enough for
 experimental use.

 The problem with both computers is that the program tends to
 lock up and
 crash or if it does key up I get a kind of machine gun sound
 in the
 audio coming from the sound card. This was also true of a
 previous
 version. Almost like an interruption in the stream. Now the
 curious
 thing is that in the past one one boot disk I was testing had
 another
 digital program which worked quite well. Could I possibly be
 correct
 that it was Digipan running under Wine? Even the audio
 settings were
 right on with that program, but on the same boot disk the main
 flDigi
 program would not run properly. Has anyone else had this problem?

 In order for PSKmail or NBEMS to even have any realistic
 chance at being
 used here in the U.S., it simply has to run under Windows at
 this time.
 Dual boots or Boot disk approaches are not adequate for
 practical use,
 although they can give you a feel for the program. Hopefully
 many of you
 are having better luck than I am.

 With a Windows version you could avoid the downsides of Linux.
 Although
 ten years from now it may be a different story, it was about
 ten years
 ago that I predicted that Linux OS would be a major desktop
 player in 5
 years. You could say that I was a bit wrong on that call:(

 73,

 Rick, KV9U

 Rud Merriam wrote:
  I just burned the CD. I will setup the laptop and rig to try
 on these
  frequencies and nearby. Probably operational in 20-30 minutes.
 
  Rud Merriam K5RUD
  ARES AEC Montgomery County, TX
  http://TheHamNetwork.net http://TheHamNetwork.net
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com] On
  Behalf Of Andrew O'Brien
  Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:35 PM
  To: DIGITALRADIO
  Subject: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion
 
 
  Aside from 6M and 2M , where I had good results with NBEMS, I
 am anxious to
  try it on HF. I will assume that the low bands will make fast
 PSK too
  difficult but PSK125 and 63 with ARQ is worth testing on HF.
 NBEMS has a
  nice bacon feature , and a beacon feature too. I would like
 to suggest a
  20M and 40M testing frequency for this weekend, I will
 suggest 14073 (dial
  frequency) and/or 7073 . Please
  QRL

RE: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion

2007-10-19 Thread Rud Merriam
I just burned the CD. I will setup the laptop and rig to try on these
frequencies and nearby. Probably operational in 20-30 minutes. 
 
Rud Merriam K5RUD 
ARES AEC Montgomery County, TX
http://TheHamNetwork.net


-Original Message-
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Andrew O'Brien
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:35 PM
To: DIGITALRADIO
Subject: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion


Aside from 6M and 2M , where I had good results  with NBEMS, I am anxious to
try it  on HF.  I will assume that the low bands will make fast PSK too
difficult but PSK125 and 63 with ARQ is worth testing on HF.  NBEMS has a
nice bacon feature , and  a beacon feature too.  I would like to suggest a
20M and 40M testing frequency  for this weekend,  I will suggest 14073 (dial
frequency) and/or 7073 .  Please
QRL first, and move up or down a tad if the frequency is busy.I
will be on tonight and tomorrow night with my beacon (when at the keyboard).


-- 
Andy K3UK
www.obriensweb.com
(QSL via N2RJ)


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Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion

2007-10-19 Thread Rick
I too downloaded the .iso yesterday and immediately burned a CD to boot 
both of my computers. While I do not expect Linux to be able to properly 
drive my Samsung SyncMaster 225BW monitor to its native resolution, I 
can usually get by with one of the other resolutions. Even though not 
acceptable for normal use, it can work well enough for experimental use.

The problem with both computers is that the program tends to lock up and 
crash or if it does key up I get a kind of machine gun sound in the 
audio coming from the sound card. This was also true of a previous 
version. Almost like an interruption in the stream. Now the curious 
thing is that in the past one one boot disk I was testing had another 
digital program which worked quite well. Could I possibly be correct 
that it was Digipan running under Wine? Even the audio settings were 
right on with that program, but on the same boot disk the main flDigi 
program would not run properly. Has anyone else had this problem?

In order for PSKmail or NBEMS to even have any realistic chance at being 
used here in the U.S., it simply has to run under Windows at this time. 
Dual boots or Boot disk approaches are not adequate for practical use, 
although they can give you a feel for the program. Hopefully many of you 
are having better luck than I am.

With a Windows version you could avoid the downsides of Linux. Although 
ten years from now it may be a different story, it was about ten years 
ago that I predicted that Linux OS would be a major desktop player in 5 
years. You could say that I was a bit wrong on that call:(

73,

Rick, KV9U


Rud Merriam wrote:
 I just burned the CD. I will setup the laptop and rig to try on these
 frequencies and nearby. Probably operational in 20-30 minutes. 
  
 Rud Merriam K5RUD 
 ARES AEC Montgomery County, TX
 http://TheHamNetwork.net


 -Original Message-
 From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Andrew O'Brien
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:35 PM
 To: DIGITALRADIO
 Subject: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion


 Aside from 6M and 2M , where I had good results  with NBEMS, I am anxious to
 try it  on HF.  I will assume that the low bands will make fast PSK too
 difficult but PSK125 and 63 with ARQ is worth testing on HF.  NBEMS has a
 nice bacon feature , and  a beacon feature too.  I would like to suggest a
 20M and 40M testing frequency  for this weekend,  I will suggest 14073 (dial
 frequency) and/or 7073 .  Please
 QRL first, and move up or down a tad if the frequency is busy.I
 will be on tonight and tomorrow night with my beacon (when at the keyboard).


   



RE: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion

2007-10-18 Thread Rud Merriam
I will attempt to get on the air this weekend, also. Probably Friday evening
and Saturday afternoon.

My antenna is an NVIS 80m dipole so I may not cover much territory. 

 
Rud Merriam K5RUD 
ARES AEC Montgomery County, TX
http://TheHamNetwork.net


-Original Message-
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Andrew O'Brien
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:35 PM
To: DIGITALRADIO
Subject: [digitalradio] NBEMS HF testing frequency suggestion


Aside from 6M and 2M , where I had good results  with NBEMS, I am anxious to
try it  on HF.  I will assume that the low bands will make fast PSK too
difficult but PSK125 and 63 with ARQ is worth testing on HF.  NBEMS has a
nice bacon feature , and  a beacon feature too.  I would like to suggest a
20M and 40M testing frequency  for this weekend,  I will suggest 14073 (dial
frequency) and/or 7073 .  Please
QRL first, and move up or down a tad if the frequency is busy.I
will be on tonight and tomorrow night with my beacon (when at the keyboard).


-- 
Andy K3UK
www.obriensweb.com
(QSL via N2RJ)


Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at
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