Re: Diagnosing connection issue

2011-02-21 Thread Matthew Gillen
On 02/21/2011 12:47 PM, edwa...@linuxmail.org wrote:
 The issue has been resolved by not using Mozilla-derived software on 
 both operating systems.

A little late now, but someone earlier pointed out that IPv6 DNS can
cause issues because of incomplete support for it.

With mozilla-based products you can set a configuration parameter (in
firefox, type 'about:config' in the url bar):
 network.dns.disableIPv6

set it to true and see if that fixes the problem for you.  I had to set
that to true a long time ago because one particular site (that I was
taking internet-based training on) was excruciatingly slow (several
minutes to load every page).  After I set that to true, everything was
zippy again.

HTH,
Matt
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Re: dual monitors

2011-02-21 Thread Matthew Gillen
On 02/21/2011 01:14 PM, Tom Metro wrote:
 This weekend I attached a 2nd monitor to my laptop and designated it the
 primary display in the NVIDIA X Server Settings applet. I have it
 running in TwinView mode where the two monitors share a contiguous
 desktop.
 
 I've ran across plenty of mentions of issues with multiple monitors in
 X, and sure enough it didn't take long to spot them. I could see the
 occasional, obscure app. not handling it well (like DockBarX, or Bless
 Hex editor, both of which have problems) but I'm seeing issues with some
 main stream apps like OpenOffice. OOo puts up its splash screen centered
 across both displays. Then opens its window on on the laptop's screen,
 rather than the primary display. Even after manually moving the window
 to the correct display, every time it opens a dialog it goes back to the
 laptop's display.
 
 It probably doesn't help that the primary display ended up being to the
 right of the laptop. I have a feeling poorly coded defaults would tend
 to work better if things were the other way around, but this ordering
 fits the physical setup better.
 
 So I'm wondering, is there an X configuration (for GNOME 2.28.1
 w/nvidia-glx-185) that is the path of least resistance for getting
 dual monitors to work with the fewest problems?

Sounds like it thinks you have one large display instead of two
independent ones.  Are you using nvidia's tool to set up twinview?  In
their tool, X Server Display Configuration, does it show two monitors?
 You can use that tool to set which is the primary, and how they are
oriented.  Are the monitors of the same resolution?

For reference, I have twinview enabled, and am using two monitors with
identical resolution.  Splash screens show up in the center of one
screen (instead of split across the middle of both like you describe).

HTH,
Matt
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Re: dual monitors

2011-02-21 Thread Tom Metro
Matthew Gillen wrote:
 Sounds like it thinks you have one large display instead of two
 independent ones.

That seems to be what TwinView is intended to emulate.


 Are you using nvidia's tool to set up twinview?

Yes.


 In their tool, X Server Display Configuration, does it show two
 monitors?

Yes.


 You can use that tool to set which is the primary...

Yes, I've done that.


 Are the monitors of the same resolution?

No.


 For reference, I have twinview enabled...

Which version of GNOME? NVIDIA driver?

Is your primary screen on the right or left?


 Splash screens show up in the center of one screen (instead of split
 across the middle of both like you describe).

Most applications handle it correctly. I was expecting the less used
ones to have issues, but I was surprised to see something as mainstream
as OOo not handling it correctly.

 -Tom

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Re: dual monitors

2011-02-21 Thread Matthew Gillen
On 2/21/2011 6:15 PM, Tom Metro wrote:
 Matthew Gillen wrote:
 Are the monitors of the same resolution?
 
 No.

I think this might be part of the issue.  I had a co-worker who had this
same issue you describe (with ubuntu), I have a msg out to see if/how he
fixed it.

 For reference, I have twinview enabled...
 
 Which version of GNOME? NVIDIA driver?

gnome: 2.32 (fedora 14)
nvidia: 260.19.36

 Is your primary screen on the right or left?

Left.  And the gnome panels are only on the left monitor.  Interestingly
enough, the gdm login prompt randomly appears on one screen or the
other.  But the gnome panels are always on the primary.

 Splash screens show up in the center of one screen (instead of split
 across the middle of both like you describe).
 
 Most applications handle it correctly. I was expecting the less used
 ones to have issues, but I was surprised to see something as mainstream
 as OOo not handling it correctly.

When you maximize a window, does it stick to one screen or does it go
across the whole desktop?

Matt
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Re: dual monitors

2011-02-21 Thread David Kramer
On 02/21/2011 07:16 PM, Matthew Gillen wrote:
 On 2/21/2011 6:15 PM, Tom Metro wrote:
 Matthew Gillen wrote:
 Are the monitors of the same resolution?

 No.
 
 I think this might be part of the issue.  I had a co-worker who had this
 same issue you describe (with ubuntu), I have a msg out to see if/how he
 fixed it.

I've never been able to work with different resolution displays any
other way than separate X sessions as per my last post,
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Re: dual monitors

2011-02-21 Thread Tom Metro
David Kramer wrote:
 You don't describe how you *want* it to work...

That was partially intentional. Having two displays isn't an absolute
requirement, so I'm looking for any way in which I can make use of the
display built-in to the laptop that minimizes negative impact on the
usability of the primary display.


 The only downside of setting up the two monitors as separate X sessions
 is that it's impossible to move a window from one display to another,
 but for me that's a feature.

My preference would be to permit moving windows. But if the TwinView
anomalies prove annoying enough, I might try this.

How do you switch between displays (designate which receives keyboard
and mouse input)?

 -Tom

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Re: dual monitors

2011-02-21 Thread David Kramer
On 02/21/2011 09:55 PM, Tom Metro wrote:
 David Kramer wrote:
 You don't describe how you *want* it to work...
 
 That was partially intentional. Having two displays isn't an absolute
 requirement, so I'm looking for any way in which I can make use of the
 display built-in to the laptop that minimizes negative impact on the
 usability of the primary display.
 
 
 The only downside of setting up the two monitors as separate X sessions
 is that it's impossible to move a window from one display to another,
 but for me that's a feature.
 
 My preference would be to permit moving windows. But if the TwinView
 anomalies prove annoying enough, I might try this.
 
 How do you switch between displays (designate which receives keyboard
 and mouse input)?

Whichever window is selected, just like with windows on one monitor.
For instance, if I have mythfrontend running fullscreen on my TV and a
terminal open on my laptop's LCD, if I'm typing in my terminal and I
want to interract with mythfrontend, I have to click on mythfrontend
then keystrokes go to it.  To resume working in the terminal, I click
somewhere in the terminal, and I can type there.  There's still only one
active window even with two X sessions running.

The mouse cursor goes freely off the top of my LCD to the bottom of my
TV and vice verse.
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