Re: [Discuss] Anyone tried Sparkleshare.org yet?

2011-06-28 Thread Ian Levesque
On Jun 22, 2011, at 5:20 PM, Jack Coats wrote:

 Sparkleshare is an opensource version of Dropbox.  They say currently
 implemented for Linux and Mac.
 
 Has anyone tried it out yet?

I've recently given it a go hoping to be able to provide a dropbox-like 
experience for some users at work that expressed a need for sharable project 
folders accessible from anywhere. They are looking into paying for Dropbox 
because it just works (can't argue there), and I'm hoping to lure them back 
to using our network storage in a new way.

That said, I've had a few issues with Sparkleshare:

  * Decision to use ~/SparkleShare as a base directory
- this directory isn't synced, it's just a home for synced dirs. this is 
confusing for end-users.

  * Reliance on git (currently... unison support is apparently coming)
- slow and expensive commits for binaries (might be able to use 
git-bigfiles?)
- duplicate bits stored in local git repo means nearly doubling your local 
storage req's

  * Basically no error notifications

  * DIY server still rough around the edges
- still relies on using SparkleShare's XMPP server for notifications
- initial setup of the client is weird; if you don't have the server in 
your ~/.ssh/known_hosts file, it fails.

When it's working, it does work pretty well even with these limitations. I've 
synced about 5GB to a local server and have done lots of 
edits/additions/deletions to stress test it. There have been times where it 
appears to be working forever, and I have to quit and restart the app. 
Ultimately, it's not ready for deployment and I'd caution that it's really only 
ready for someone that is prepared to babysit it a bit.

~irl
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Re: [Discuss] Anyone tried Sparkleshare.org yet?

2011-06-28 Thread Matt Shields
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Ian Levesque i...@crystal.harvard.eduwrote:

 On Jun 22, 2011, at 5:20 PM, Jack Coats wrote:

  Sparkleshare is an opensource version of Dropbox.  They say currently
  implemented for Linux and Mac.
 
  Has anyone tried it out yet?

 I've recently given it a go hoping to be able to provide a dropbox-like
 experience for some users at work that expressed a need for sharable project
 folders accessible from anywhere. They are looking into paying for Dropbox
 because it just works (can't argue there), and I'm hoping to lure them
 back to using our network storage in a new way.

 That said, I've had a few issues with Sparkleshare:

  * Decision to use ~/SparkleShare as a base directory
- this directory isn't synced, it's just a home for synced dirs. this
 is confusing for end-users.

  * Reliance on git (currently... unison support is apparently coming)
- slow and expensive commits for binaries (might be able to use
 git-bigfiles?)
- duplicate bits stored in local git repo means nearly doubling your
 local storage req's

  * Basically no error notifications

  * DIY server still rough around the edges
- still relies on using SparkleShare's XMPP server for notifications
- initial setup of the client is weird; if you don't have the server in
 your ~/.ssh/known_hosts file, it fails.

 When it's working, it does work pretty well even with these limitations.
 I've synced about 5GB to a local server and have done lots of
 edits/additions/deletions to stress test it. There have been times where it
 appears to be working forever, and I have to quit and restart the app.
 Ultimately, it's not ready for deployment and I'd caution that it's really
 only ready for someone that is prepared to babysit it a bit.

 ~irl
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Does the server piece support multiple users?  If so, can it support folder
sharing like Dropbox?  This might be great for companies that want to have
an easy way to backup and share inside their company and be able to maintain
their own infrastructure.

Matthew Shields
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Re: [Discuss] Anyone tried Sparkleshare.org yet?

2011-06-28 Thread Benjamin Carr
I have to add that I was looking at it is a solution as well (and a move
away from dropbox) and only with a handful of users. While it works for
me it's not there for other, even technically talented, users. We were
using the mac front-end 0.2 package and a linux server with git as the
backend. As mentioned, the fact that ~/Sparkleshare isn't the replicated
folder but is the container for sync'ed folders was only the first line
of confusion.

One another list it was pointed out that this is a reboot/complete
rewrite of the old Novell ifolder product. Has anyone had success
with that product? It too is open source: http://ifolder.com but it is
built on Mono at this point, just a warning for those who dislike .NET.
-Ben
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Re: [Discuss] Anyone tried Sparkleshare.org yet?

2011-06-28 Thread Richard Pieri
On Jun 28, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Benjamin Carr wrote:
 
 One another list it was pointed out that this is a reboot/complete
 rewrite of the old Novell ifolder product. Has anyone had success
 with that product? It too is open source: http://ifolder.com but it is
 built on Mono at this point, just a warning for those who dislike .NET.

I tried getting iFolder working on Macintosh.  I failed.  Too much work, not 
nearly enough reward for the effort.  Making Git work is simple, and that's two 
points in SparkeShare's favor.

That said, if I ever decide to drop Wuala for storage/sync then I'll switch to 
Unison.  Git is simply the wrong tool for that job.

--Rich P.

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Re: [Discuss] Hardware Hacking

2011-06-28 Thread Tom Metro
Derek Martin wrote:
 Do we really need a separate list for this?

That's a valid question, and I did consider whether it was worth setting
up and subscribing to yet another mailing list.


 It's relevant to Linux (so it's on topic)...

Well, this is Boston Linux/UNIX, and what is on topic here is Linux/UNIX
and things that are tangentially related for the occasional off-topic
discussion, like ISPs, etc.

The idea of the HH list is that only some of the posting would be Linux
related, so while it should appeal to an overlapping audience to this
list, most of it would be off topic.

 -Tom

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