Re: [Discuss] Favorite Editor

2019-09-20 Thread Bill Ricker
On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 10:26 AM Rich Pieri  wrote:

> I guess I'm weird. I don't use an editor. I use a lot of different
> editors depending on the needs at hand.
>

It always feels strange to agree with Rich, but yes, the tool within reach
is better than the perfect tool that isn't installed, and the wrench that
fits is better than the perfect wrench that doesn't fit.
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Re: [Discuss] Favorite Editor [was..]

2019-09-20 Thread Bill Ricker
On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 10:09 AM Greg Rundlett (freephile) <
g...@freephile.com> wrote:

> I use vim, but have never really become accustomed to advanced usage (even
> multiple buffers is awkward). ...


> On 9/19/19 4:54 PM, John Abreau wrote:
> > > I absolutely*hate*  vim.
> > Hear hear!
> > I'm an old VI fan, like others have mentioned, because of the finger
> > memory.
>

I used to be that rare bird, a dual vi/emacs user -- because new OS
installs one needs to use VI to install Emacs, it's good to know either ED
or EX/VI.
Back in the day, i had an older HP terminal that had a even longer termcap
entry than a VT100.  VI could use that to reverse scroll, or scroll a
sub-range of rows (leaving status rows alone) so despite having a 4800bps
network connect box, i could edit faster with that than with VI or Emacs on
a VT101 with 9600bps network connect card inboard. (Unix PWB, BSD3, BSD 4)

When my wrists got problematic (better now), I dropped Emacs and switched
to VIM and GEDIT because CTRL-META-COKEBOTTLE was too much stretch ouch
ouch.

Mostly still using VI finger memory. I haven't learned all the really
advanced features of VIM, though perhaps I should. (For most purposes,
switching between several VIMs with TERM, SCREEN, or ^Z %2 works well
enough and is same skillz as switching non-VIM things so reusable
knowledge!)

One thing that makes VIM more usable:
I've added an alias to launch a GVIM outside the terminal window.
GVIM works with the Desktop COPY/PASTE buffer like a normal editor,
separately from its own cut/copy/yank buffer.


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Re: [Discuss] Favorite Editor

2019-09-20 Thread Rich Pieri
I guess I'm weird. I don't use an editor. I use a lot of different
editors depending on the needs at hand.

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[Discuss] Favorite Editor (was RMS in the news)

2019-09-20 Thread Greg Rundlett (freephile)
I use vim, but have never really become accustomed to advanced usage (even
multiple buffers is awkward). After trying everything under the sun, (and
drinking the early cool-aid of eclipse and Netbeans) I've actually settled
on using Microsoft Visual Studio Code like Brendan. It runs fine on Linux
(Ubuntu 19.04) and most importantly for me, it works great over SSH to
remote servers (reading your .ssh/config). It even includes an instant
shell to the directory you're working on. It browses both local and remote
file systems. It integrates with git; etc. I had stability issues with Atom
and it's less polished than VS Code.

Greg Rundlett
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On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 9:29 AM Michael Tiernan 
wrote:

> On 9/19/19 4:54 PM, John Abreau wrote:
> > I absolutely*hate*  vim.
>
> Hear hear!
>
> I'm an old VI fan, like others have mentioned, because of the finger
> memory.
>
> I made the mistake of getting hooked on 'vile' which is very VI like
> without a lot of the fluffy interference that VIM provides.
>
> I've resigned myself to just living with vile or vim 'cause it's easier
> than refitting the systems I'm on.
>
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