Re: [steering-discuss] By-Laws / BOD elections
Hi All, Maybe we can have a JCP like system wherein all members vote. We can also give the sponsors a particular number of seats ( non-veto powers) to the sponsors who have supported it . I propose not exactly a JCP like system but we can look at a modified version of JCP voting system What do you guys feel ? Regards Varun Mittal http://www.varunmittal.info Google https://www.google.com/profiles/varunmittal87 Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/mittal.varun LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/varunmittal87 Twitterhttp://twitter.com/varunmittal19 Uncertainty is the only Certainty of LIFE On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Drew Jensen d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 15:40 +0100, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Members get the right to vote, and to elect other Members, on a one member, one vote basis - that really was the question, not specific logistics. Great, no need to follow up any further on this here, for me. Best wishes, Drew -- E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.orgsteering-discuss%2bh...@documentfoundation.orgfor instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/steering-discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/steering-discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Using Tango (was: Re: [tdf-discuss] New Icon theme set)
Hi all! Am Dienstag, den 16.11.2010, 20:27 +1300 schrieb Graham Lauder: I agree the tango set is great however it is already shipped with OOo and LibreO as an option. (ToolsoptionsLibreOffice ViewIcon size and style) However I admit that I would like to see tango as the default. Does anybody know how complete Tango is at the moment? How many missing, or maybe not that matching (in terms of icon metaphor and thus usability) icons left to make it a drop-in replacement? Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: On the Future of TDF
That's interesting to know about OASIS, thanks for the explanation. What about sharing the document file format support between FOSS related programs? It's the other part of the idea that not got answered :) On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: Le 2010-11-15 17:07, timofonic timofonic a écrit : I propose another idea: What about convert the file support of LibO into a portable, resource efficient, well designed and multiplatform library for all FOSS projects? I would imagine it like the WebKit of document file formats, but governed in a less corporate way. This library would have it´s own site into backed or being a TDF subdomain (or both), and improved between all friend projects. Of course this idea would need lot's of PR, negotiate with different projects and probably even deep changes in the original source code. This could make not only more interoperability, but FOSS projects having a lot stronger file type support. It could be used easily for non-interactive document converters too. A strong official alliance about this and other interoperability stuff could be very good for the FOSS productivity suite. Hi Timofonic. But we already have this with the ODF and the Oasis Consortium of which some of our members sit on their committees. We should instead propose refinements to the ODF rather than add another layer of complexity. Creating another consortium takes a lot of time and negotiation between different groups, not to mention financial backing and legal representation. We already have many cooperating groups using the ODF and it sounds like the ODF has made great strides in being accepted in Europe, unlike N.America where it is still quite unknown. The LO marketing team hopes to make a difference in promoting the ODF formats as well as LO in the Americas as well as everywhere it is unknown. It is all in our interest to do so. Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice bits ...
Bruce Byfield wrote: Italo, you are quoted as saying, After 20 years of feature oriented software, it is now the right time to bring back content at the centre of user focus. Can you explain exactly what that means? Copying to the marketing@ and discuss@ mailing lists. Actually, I wrote the entire press release, included my quote. I am not a developer (degree in humanities, life started as a geographer then 30 years in hi-tech marketing, where I have ended just by chance at age 27 discovering a deep curiosity for innovations), although I have managed a printer RD lab for two years, between age 30 and 32, to develop an award winning dot matrix printer. My personal opinion is that so far software has been focused more on features than on contents, and a good user is considered who is able to use features and not who is able to develop good contents. I have been one of these users and too many times I have been focusing on more on features that on contents. The future should be different. Sometimes, having many features is just useless, if you do not need all the features. Of course, this does not mean that software should have less features. The evolution of platforms - desktop, notebooks, laptops, netbooks, tablets, smartphones - will translate into a different relation between user and contents (editing and reading on a large screen is not like reading on a small screen, and definitely not like editing). In addition, being mobile adds another layer of complexity, because the relathionship with contents is different when you are on the road: your attention is lower and your time pressure is higher. Of course, I am speculating about the future. As a user I hate, though, reading that each new release adds x features when the previous one is still plagued by bugs and security issues. I hope this explains, although partially, my quote. Best, Italo -- Italo Vignoli - The Document Foundation E-mail: italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org Mobile +39.348.5653829 - VoIP: +39.02.320621813 Skype: italovignoli - GTalk: italo.vign...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: On the Future of TDF
Le 2010-11-16 03:29, timofonic timofonic a écrit : That's interesting to know about OASIS, thanks for the explanation. What about sharing the document file format support between FOSS related programs? It's the other part of the idea that not got answered :) The ODF formats are well documented. I don't know how much more support other FOSS related programs would need other than help with it implementation in a particular program. I am sure that is a FOSS developer team asked for help, someone would lend a hand. Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] document foundation wiki issues ...
In Drupal you can use public pages that are similar in concept to a Wiki. Anyone can edit them and you can store a history of all the edits and revert to earlier versions. You could make an automatic link from such pages to a discussion forum to discuss issues etc. On 15 November 2010 23:31, Friedrich Strohmaier damokles4-lis...@bits-fritz.de wrote: Hi Jonathan, *, Jonathan Aquilina schrieb: Random thought here. im willing to donate some webspace to a wordpress setup for the project. i have experience in making the site look less like a blog and more like a proper website and there are some really killer themes available for wordpress. The wiki is intended to be a pool of information to be completed by everybody rather than the projects website. would you guys be interested in migrating away from a wiki. No, never ;o)) the way i see it the problem with a wiki is that anyone from the site and possibly even spammers can edit the page be it contributors or not. at least with wordpress you just have a list of users who have permissions to edit the site, as well as those who can just post and comment etc. what do you all think? The Website is already work in progress, coming up soon and realized through a CMS which covers all your points and more ;o)). [.. recycled TOFU ..] Gruß/regards -- Friedrich Libreoffice-Box http://libreofficebox.org/ LibreOffice and more on CD/DVD images (german version already started) -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.orgdiscuss%2bh...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived *** -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications The Schools ITQwww.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 You have received this email from the following company: The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] document foundation wiki issues ...
i honestly think that something like that would be handy to have. if something happens we have a way to quickly revert changes that are not wanted. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: In Drupal you can use public pages that are similar in concept to a Wiki. Anyone can edit them and you can store a history of all the edits and revert to earlier versions. You could make an automatic link from such pages to a discussion forum to discuss issues etc. On 15 November 2010 23:31, Friedrich Strohmaier damokles4-lis...@bits-fritz.de wrote: Hi Jonathan, *, Jonathan Aquilina schrieb: Random thought here. im willing to donate some webspace to a wordpress setup for the project. i have experience in making the site look less like a blog and more like a proper website and there are some really killer themes available for wordpress. The wiki is intended to be a pool of information to be completed by everybody rather than the projects website. would you guys be interested in migrating away from a wiki. No, never ;o)) the way i see it the problem with a wiki is that anyone from the site and possibly even spammers can edit the page be it contributors or not. at least with wordpress you just have a list of users who have permissions to edit the site, as well as those who can just post and comment etc. what do you all think? The Website is already work in progress, coming up soon and realized through a CMS which covers all your points and more ;o)). [.. recycled TOFU ..] Gruß/regards -- Friedrich Libreoffice-Box http://libreofficebox.org/ LibreOffice and more on CD/DVD images (german version already started) -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.orgdiscuss%2bh...@documentfoundation.org discuss%2bh...@documentfoundation.orgdiscuss%252bh...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived *** -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications The Schools ITQwww.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 You have received this email from the following company: The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.orgdiscuss%2bh...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived *** -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] document foundation wiki issues ...
Jonathan, I would invite you to join the LibreOffice Drupal website development team, or if you are not interested in developing with Drupal I can suggest that you get involved with the temporary LibreOffice Silverstripe website. I would suggest that you check the LibreOffice Wiki (Website tab on the left). There is a team of people working on the suggestions you have raised and MANY more with the consultation across the project groups such as the documentation, marketing/branding/artwork, development and steering committee groups. Having said this, although a much more comprehensive community site is being built the WIKI will Always be one of the primary hubs for communicating team plans, progress and proposals as a wiki is such an easy and constructive tool. If you can't find what you want, you can build it and they will come! If very keen you can have a look at the libreoffice.org Drupal development site, temporarily located at www.libreofficeaustralia.org during development before replacing Silverstripe in 4-6 months. I invite you to get involved. Michael Wheatland LibreOffice Drupal Website Development Team. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
[tdf-discuss] Website and online communication
One thing that I have noticed, especially as people start flooding into the community there seems to be a lot of independent suggestions for new web applications / communications tools from people who have not read through the mailing lists (who would) or read the website development wiki. To set everyone's mind at ease I would like to reassure you that the LibreOffice Drupal Development site is being built at breakneck pace. There are many people working hard to deliver the scheduled replacement for SilverStripe, which will not only do the community justice, but break down barriers for new members to join and start contributing to all facets of our fantastic project. Although the Drupal development site is not yet at a beta testing phase I would like to invite all groups across the LibreOffice Project discuss and propose requirements and ideas for the website which would assist in your work of bettering LibreOffice. There are already groups which have been consulted, and I thank them for their input, including the documentation and marketing/branding/artwork teams. We still need the basic framework for the code development group, steering committee, quality assurance and regional groups. You can add your needs and ideas on the wiki once agreed within the group: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Drupal#Drupal_Website_Requirements Thanks for your patience with the Drupal Development, but when launched on LibreOffice.org as the Steering Committee has recommended within 6 months, ALL of this functionality will be available in one place, our community. Thanks all, Michael Wheatland LibreOffice Drupal Website Development Team One User wrote: I don't know if and how easy this would be in drupal. So far I have coded a very simple webform in django (python is my thing :-)) to allow uploading a document and a comment. Another User wrote: Random thought here. im willing to donate some webspace to a wordpress setup for the project. i have experience in making the site look less like a blog and more like a proper website and there are some really killer themes available for wordpress. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: On the Future of TDF
On Tuesday 16 Nov 2010 21:29:45 timofonic timofonic wrote: That's interesting to know about OASIS, thanks for the explanation. What about sharing the document file format support between FOSS related programs? It's the other part of the idea that not got answered :) Please don't top post. Good heavens, have you been hiding under a rock for the last couple of years, ;) that is the whole point of OASIS and ODF and ISO26300, It is already supported by multiple FOSS applications and MSOffice as well, though not well, yet. The ISO format wars was long and bloody but we won. mostly, however the evolution continues. cheers GL On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: Le 2010-11-15 17:07, timofonic timofonic a écrit : I propose another idea: What about convert the file support of LibO into a portable, resource efficient, well designed and multiplatform library for all FOSS projects? I would imagine it like the WebKit of document file formats, but governed in a less corporate way. This library would have it´s own site into backed or being a TDF subdomain (or both), and improved between all friend projects. Of course this idea would need lot's of PR, negotiate with different projects and probably even deep changes in the original source code. This could make not only more interoperability, but FOSS projects having a lot stronger file type support. It could be used easily for non-interactive document converters too. A strong official alliance about this and other interoperability stuff could be very good for the FOSS productivity suite. Hi Timofonic. But we already have this with the ODF and the Oasis Consortium of which some of our members sit on their committees. We should instead propose refinements to the ODF rather than add another layer of complexity. Creating another consortium takes a lot of time and negotiation between different groups, not to mention financial backing and legal representation. We already have many cooperating groups using the ODF and it sounds like the ODF has made great strides in being accepted in Europe, unlike N.America where it is still quite unknown. The LO marketing team hopes to make a difference in promoting the ODF formats as well as LO in the Americas as well as everywhere it is unknown. It is all in our interest to do so. Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived *** -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Open Technologies) www.theingots.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
[tdf-discuss] [QA] LibreOffice beta 3 (3.2.99.3)
Hi Everyone, I'm speaking about new beta 3 (see src directory) OpenSuSE build (-9.1). This release hasn't yet been built as vanilla, but it is as OpenSuSE (see Build Service). I want only to point out some things: - ok - now applications starts at the first run (fixed in beta 3); - ko - when you close one application's last document or when you run the global application you do not get any more the global splash screen/menu in the center of the window and with all the applications listed with their icons (regression from beta 2); - ko - when you run Writer (Calc is ok) you get an empty toolbar in the third toolbar raw; this toolbar seems to be not listed on View - Toolbars menu (remains from beta 2), but you could close it with its local menu; - ko - as already posted GUI still remain in english and Italian GUI language isn't yet selectable on the Tools menu - Options - Language Settings - Languages - Language of - User Interface option (remains from beta 2). But this isn't a bug because Beta2 has been released as EN-US so far, as Scott Furry said in 19/10/2010 18:35 (Italy time, CET). Hope that help, Carlo -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: On the Future of TDF
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Graham Lauder yori...@openoffice.orgwrote: On Tuesday 16 Nov 2010 21:29:45 timofonic timofonic wrote: That's interesting to know about OASIS, thanks for the explanation. What about sharing the document file format support between FOSS related programs? It's the other part of the idea that not got answered :) Please don't top post. Good heavens, have you been hiding under a rock for the last couple of years, ;) that is the whole point of OASIS and ODF and ISO26300, It is already supported by multiple FOSS applications and MSOffice as well, though not well, yet. The ISO format wars was long and bloody but we won. mostly, however the evolution continues. cheers GL I think that the problem is not with the OASIS/ODF. FOSS applications have to support MS specific formats also. In many cases most of the documents these editors are used to deal with are in MS format. Even OO/LibO support for these formats is not perfect, not to talk about other FOSS office suites. So the idea of one shared library for MS specific format support is definitely worth consideration. Regards, Povilas On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: Le 2010-11-15 17:07, timofonic timofonic a écrit : I propose another idea: What about convert the file support of LibO into a portable, resource efficient, well designed and multiplatform library for all FOSS projects? I would imagine it like the WebKit of document file formats, but governed in a less corporate way. This library would have it´s own site into backed or being a TDF subdomain (or both), and improved between all friend projects. Of course this idea would need lot's of PR, negotiate with different projects and probably even deep changes in the original source code. This could make not only more interoperability, but FOSS projects having a lot stronger file type support. It could be used easily for non-interactive document converters too. A strong official alliance about this and other interoperability stuff could be very good for the FOSS productivity suite. Hi Timofonic. But we already have this with the ODF and the Oasis Consortium of which some of our members sit on their committees. We should instead propose refinements to the ODF rather than add another layer of complexity. Creating another consortium takes a lot of time and negotiation between different groups, not to mention financial backing and legal representation. We already have many cooperating groups using the ODF and it sounds like the ODF has made great strides in being accepted in Europe, unlike N.America where it is still quite unknown. The LO marketing team hopes to make a difference in promoting the ODF formats as well as LO in the Americas as well as everywhere it is unknown. It is all in our interest to do so. Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.orgdiscuss%2bh...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived *** -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Open Technologies) www.theingots.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.orgdiscuss%2bh...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: [QA] LibreOffice beta 3 (3.2.99.3)
Carlo Strata píše v Út 16. 11. 2010 v 13:14 +0100: Hi Everyone, I'm speaking about new beta 3 (see src directory) OpenSuSE build (-9.1). This release hasn't yet been built as vanilla, but it is as OpenSuSE (see Build Service). We are just doing final smoke test of the universal build before we make it public. Hmm, the full openSUSE build is available only for openSUSE-11.1 and SLED11, SLED11-SP1. I still have some troubles on other distros. Sigh, I forgot to disable publishing before it is complete I want only to point out some things: - ok - now applications starts at the first run (fixed in beta 3); Yup, it has been fixed by Kendy. - ko - when you close one application's last document or when you run the global application you do not get any more the global splash screen/menu in the center of the window and with all the applications listed with their icons (regression from beta 2); I do not see this in the universal build = it is openSUSE-specific. I see that Yi Fan reported it as https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=653519 - ko - when you run Writer (Calc is ok) you get an empty toolbar in the third toolbar raw; this toolbar seems to be not listed on View - Toolbars menu (remains from beta 2), but you could close it with its local menu; It seems to be openSUSE-specific as well. Could you please report it at https://bugzilla.novell.com/ against the product OpenOffice.org? - ko - as already posted GUI still remain in english and Italian GUI language isn't yet selectable on the Tools menu - Options - Language Settings - Languages - Language of - User Interface option (remains from beta 2). But this isn't a bug because Beta2 has been released as EN-US so far, as Scott Furry said in 19/10/2010 18:35 (Italy time, CET). This is openSUSE specific and reported as https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=651964 Thanks a lot for testing and feedback. It is great to know about such bugs early! Best Regards, Petr -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: On the Future of TDF
- Original Message From: Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Tue, November 16, 2010 4:12:50 AM Subject: [tdf-discuss] Re: On the Future of TDF Le 2010-11-16 03:29, timofonic timofonic a écrit : That's interesting to know about OASIS, thanks for the explanation. What about sharing the document file format support between FOSS related programs? It's the other part of the idea that not got answered :) The ODF formats are well documented. I don't know how much more support other FOSS related programs would need other than help with it implementation in a particular program. I am sure that is a FOSS developer team asked for help, someone would lend a hand. I think he means having a shared library that all the programs - LibO, KOffice, etc. could all use for accessing ODF. However, that is likely unrealistic as the different programs often use very different frameworks. KOffice uses Qt, which is dramatically different from Gtk. I'm sure you could probably integrate them if you'd like, but I see no reason why you would want to and having a single library of that nature support multiple frameworks would be nuts and difficult to maintain. Ben -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] On the Future of TDF
- Original Message From: AG computing.acco...@googlemail.com On 14/11/10 11:25, Mirek M. wrote: In addition, each single module of LibreOffice will be undergoing an extensive rewrite, with Calc being the first one to be redeveloped around a brand new engine - code named Ixion - that will increase performance, allow true versatility and add long awaited database and VBA macro handling features. Yep - that +does+ sound interesting. Any time-lines given for this or the other improvements? What I am interested in is what is TDF going to do to support VBA? And how are they going to get around issues like parts of the language being patented by Microsoft? There's a reason that the makers of Star Office and most everyone else do not support Visual Basic or VBA in their applications. So I'm quite curious how TDF is going to resolve that supposing they do implement it. Same goes for supporting .Net/Mono, OOXML, and the various other technologies Microsoft has there that they seem to be pledging to add - as there is a lot there that Microsoft does not relicense for use or implementation. Ben -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] FreeDesktop Bugzilla
- Original Message From: Sebastian Spaeth sebast...@sspaeth.de snip http://docs.officeshots.org/ may be a potential starting point - especially when it comes to document conversion / rendering fidelity. I don't know if and how easy this would be in drupal. So far I have coded a very simple webform in django (python is my thing :-)) to allow uploading a document and a comment. Next, I want to integrate automatic conversion of the doc to .pdf by LibO in which, when finished, the user can mark the pages that exhibit conversion problems. Adding screenshots from MS Office would be cool, but I don't know how to do that (although the officeshot site manages it, so it must be possible). The only thing that is then left, is to link the uploaded doc to a bugzilla issue and display the status from the bug in question. The linking to a bug would (in my vision), not necessarily happen by the user, but by QA team, that vets those entries. You do realize that Bugzilla and other similar tools do allow you to attach files, etc directly to the bug report, no? I.e. there is no need to have an external source to store the files. Ben -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice bits ...
Hi Italo, *, Italo Vignoli schrieb: Bruce Byfield wrote: [.. intersting question ..] Copying to the marketing@ and discuss@ mailing lists. Not a good idea. On each of that lists users will miss (interesting) answers, they can only find fiddling around with several lists. In case of casual reply to all posters there will be to check double content for uniqe postings. It'd probably be a good idea to send an anounce mail to that lists with a link to a suitable archived thread of this list. Example: http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@documentfoundation.org/msg02916.html [.. interesting answer :o)) ..] Gruß/regards -- Friedrich Libreoffice-Box http://libreofficebox.org/ LibreOffice and more on CD/DVD images (german version already started) -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] document foundation wiki issues ...
Hello Have you ever thought about a new logo ( I have LO 3,3 B2 Deutsch) and the Logo strongly reminded me to OO.org 3,1. Who makes a new one? I hope I am not spamming und darf man hier eigentlich * nur* Deutsch schreiben oder ist das verboten?? Gruß/regards Danke/Thanks Florian Reisinger -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: Using Tango (was: Re: [tdf-discuss] New Icon theme set)
Hi guys, On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 09:59 -0500, nathan nolast wrote: the tango icon theme set is pretty complete, heres their basic icon set .. In my opinion, this icon set has greater appeal to the eye, its polished. JFYI - we already default to this icon set, though in Beta2 it is made somewhat incomplete (and ugly size-wise), since we lost the fallback to the 'industrial' icon theme - which fills in all the icons for which there was no point in re-drawing Tango equivalents. So - Beta3 will have cleaner artwork in this regard; let me know what you think when it comes out. Does anybody know how complete Tango is at the moment? How many missing, or maybe not that matching (in terms of icon metaphor and thus usability) icons left to make it a drop-in replacement? So - looks poor in Beta2 - check-out Beta3 ;-) but the Tango set is rather complete. Jakub (one of the key Tango guys) worked on it for Novell, targetting OO.o for many, many months some years back. Probably it will need a few new icons touching up - but we fall-back to the existing icon set as/where one is missing - so there will always be an icon in a given hole. My personal taste is to switch the default to Tango, and deprecate the old icons (leaving them lying around) - if only for licensing reasons: Tango has a much more 'friendly' license for big companies like Oracle / IBM and is a large chunk of work. Clearly continuing to ship the crystal, oxygen, legacy, and hicontrast makes lots of sense - particularly on platforms (like Linux) where we can auto-select one that best matches the current desktop theme. HTH, Michael. -- michael.me...@novell.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [QA] LibreOffice beta 3 (3.2.99.3)
Il 16/11/2010 14:44, Petr Mladek ha scritto: Carlo Strata píše v Út 16. 11. 2010 v 13:14 +0100: Hi Everyone, I'm speaking about new beta 3 (see src directory) OpenSuSE build (-9.1). This release hasn't yet been built as vanilla, but it is as OpenSuSE (see Build Service). We are just doing final smoke test of the universal build before we make it public. Hmm, the full openSUSE build is available only for openSUSE-11.1 and SLED11, SLED11-SP1. I still have some troubles on other distros. Sigh, I forgot to disable publishing before it is complete Don't worry: it's an unstable repo, we know it: we all are testing it and helping the Libò development. As usual (but I'm installing a clean x86-64 OpenSuSE 11.3 asap), I'm using an updated OpenSuSE 11.2 x86-64 with about 43 OBS repos among whom http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Unstable/openSUSE_11.2/ I want only to point out some things: - ok - now applications starts at the first run (fixed in beta 3); Yup, it has been fixed by Kendy. - ko - when you close one application's last document or when you run the global application you do not get any more the global splash screen/menu in the center of the window and with all the applications listed with their icons (regression from beta 2); I do not see this in the universal build = it is openSUSE-specific. I see that Yi Fan reported it as https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=653519 - ko - when you run Writer (Calc is ok) you get an empty toolbar in the third toolbar raw; this toolbar seems to be not listed on View - Toolbars menu (remains from beta 2), but you could close it with its local menu; It seems to be openSUSE-specific as well. Could you please report it at https://bugzilla.novell.com/ against the product OpenOffice.org? Done: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=654039 LibreOffice - Writer opens with an empty toolbar Do you think we also need to add LibreOffice to the Products and/or Component list? Or it still wait may be warding off ill-luck and propitiatory... for a big and comprehensive future? ;-) - ko - as already posted GUI still remain in english and Italian GUI language isn't yet selectable on the Tools menu - Options - Language Settings - Languages - Language of - User Interface option (remains from beta 2). But this isn't a bug because Beta2 has been released as EN-US so far, as Scott Furry said in 19/10/2010 18:35 (Italy time, CET). This is openSUSE specific and reported as https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=651964 Thanks a lot for testing and feedback. It is great to know about such bugs early! Best Regards, Petr Thank you, Carlo -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] New Icon theme set
Le 16/11/2010 08:27, Graham Lauder a écrit : [...] I agree the tango set is great however it is already shipped with OOo and LibreO as an option. (ToolsoptionsLibreOffice ViewIcon size and style) However I admit that I would like to see tango as the default. No problem for me. If I can still switch to the old good Galaxy icons set ! ;-) :-P IMHO, what is more important is to make the user aware that he can easily customize the appearance of LibO. Best regards. JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
