[tdf-discuss] [Change executable names] Re: Digest of discuss@documentfoundation.org issue 127 (3742-3762)

[NoOp]

On 12/17/2010 05:53 AM, Jaime R. Garza wrote:
> As many others already commented, I believe it's time that LibreOffice
> changes the names of some of the individual applications, my humble
> proposal:
> 
> Write
> Spread
> Present
> Draw
> Formula
> Base

This is critical when attempting to have OOo and LibO co-exist on Windows.

- LO takes over all OOo application defaults & icons.
- LO uses the same executable names as OOo (soffice.exe, swriter.exe,
etc). This makes it impossible to select an .odt and re-associate it
with OOo.




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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: PDF export in CMYK

[Tibor Bamhor]

Hi,
this might be very good solution, I'm going to investigate it deeper.
I'm using linux exclusively, my friend is using windows, but this might be 
another (even though small ) reason for him to consider linux.

Thanks


Tibor




On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 03:49:05 +0100, NoOp  wrote:

> On 12/15/2010 02:07 PM, Tibor Bamhor wrote:
>>
>> Hi, Friend of mine had an issue with openoffice, He was asked to
>> deliver pdf in CMYK colorspace. It is not possible by now AFAIK. But
>> are there any plans or any work being done in this regard? I just
>> wonder, it is not critical issue for me, nor for my friend. He used
>> some Adobe product at the end...
>
> I think this is an issue with the printer driver. For example, if I wish
> to create a PDF with CMYK I use the ghostscript ppd - ghostpdf.ppd:
>
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&complete=0&q=ghostpdf.ppd&btnG=Search
>
> and see:
> 
> [pdf export only in RGB colorspace!]
>
> I just set up a virtual printer using that driver/ppd & select when I
> need to print in CMYK.
>
> Of course, it would be nice if LibO used that driver (or a modified
> version) to allow CMYK, but I don't know what work would be involved.
> File a bug/wishlist report & perhaps some kind soul will take it up for
> LibO.
>
> Note: I've no idea on how to use this driver on Windows if that is what
> your friend is using... you'll need to explore the Google links for that.
>
>




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Re: [tdf-discuss] Survey: Usage of LibreOffice components

[Jason Hackney]

05% ~ Writer
90% ~ Calc
00% ~ Impress
02% ~ Draw
02% ~ Base
01% ~ Math

Don't think I'm using the quick starter. This is Sabayon.

Writer: Mostly notes and technical documents for myself and the occasional
memo.
Calc: A lot of work (aircraft weight & balance/performance/flight planning
calculators)
Impress: I hate Impress. Sorry.
Draw: Prefer Inkscape/Gimp, but Draw in a pinch.
Base: Most of my stuff can be done in a spreadsheet, but more complex things
go in Base. Very little.
Math: Only when I need to drop a pretty formula into Writer. Very rarely.

Cheers, -jason

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Detailed instructions for installing LibreOffice on Macintosh

[Uwe Altmann]

Hi David

one more thing :-)

When a user wants to use his OOo-user-Prefs (aka "user"-foder) then he
just has to go to
   /Library/Application Support/

make a duplicate of the folder "OpenOffice.org"
rename the duplicate to "LibreOffice" (or just rename "OpenOffice.org"
folder to "LibreOffice" in case you do not longer use OpenOffice.org)
Done.

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OpenOffice.org - auch auf dem Mac!

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Detailed instructions for installing LibreOffice on Macintosh

[Uwe Altmann]

Hi David

Am 17.12.10 09:59, schrieb David Nelson:
> I don't have a Macintosh, unfortunately, 

:-)

and I need detailed
> instructions for installing LibreOffice on Mac, *also* covering
> installation of a language pack

OK, I'll get them to you:
Download and open the *.dmg file and drag the LO Icon wherever you want.
If an older version exists in the same directory, it will be overwritten
(and therefore, all system wide preferences are lost, bug is known).
Parallel install of all known vrersions istpossible - just rename them.
(It's really more like coping a file)

LangPack:
Download and open the *.dmg file
Start the Program "OpenOffice.org 3.3 Language Pack" into the dmg.
Select the LO/OOo-Version you want to update with the langpack.
Click OK
done.

> I also need to know whether it is necessary to de-install a previous
> version of LibO (or of OOo) before installing a new version. If so, I
> need detailed instructions on how to de-install an existing version.

no, you may install so much versions as you want at the same time.

> 
> If you're able to provide screenshots, this would be a great optional
> extra. in that case, please feel free to mail them to me directly.

will do so.


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[tdf-discuss] Re: Digest of discuss@documentfoundation.org issue 127 (3742-3762)

[Jaime R. Garza]

As many others already commented, I believe it's time that LibreOffice
changes the names of some of the individual applications, my humble
proposal:

Write
Spread
Present
Draw
Formula
Base

Cheers!

Jaime R. Garza

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[tdf-discuss] LibreOffice FOSDEM DevRoom

[Florian Effenberger]

Hello,

just as a reminder: Send in your proposals for the LibreOffice FOSDEM 
DevRoom until Monday!


Details are available in our wiki at 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/Fosdem2011


Thanks,
Florian

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: PDF export in CMYK

[Fernand Vanrie]

Alex,

Indeed using CMYK-eps can been done, but  the pictures are not shown in 
LO or OOdocuments. They "re-apear" in the final PDF made by a Windows 
printer (not by the LO conversion) We used this technique for years, 
starting with low-res Pictures in the OO-docs, and then just before PDF 
making, we replace them with there EPS conterparts.
This is nowdays over ruled by an RGB workflow where we use Highres RGB 
pictures (all in the same sRGB or AdobeRGB colorspace) then  we makes 
RGB-pdf's and tranfers the RGB-pdf to a CMYK-pdf for professional CMYK 
printing.


Fernand


Le 17/12/10 09:16, Fernand Vanrie a écrit :

Hi all,

I seem to recall that neither OOo, nor LibO implement CMYK colourspace,
but I also seem to recall having read somewhere that if you use EPS
images that are already CMYK compliant, instead of JPG, then you might
get a more acceptable PDF doc. Worth trying ? I don't remember exactly
because even EPS management within OOo/LibO wasn't brilliant. The only
other thing I can think of is Scribus...


Alex









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[tdf-discuss] Re: PDF export in CMYK

[Alexander Thurgood]

Le 17/12/10 09:16, Fernand Vanrie a écrit :

Hi all,

I seem to recall that neither OOo, nor LibO implement CMYK colourspace,
but I also seem to recall having read somewhere that if you use EPS
images that are already CMYK compliant, instead of JPG, then you might
get a more acceptable PDF doc. Worth trying ? I don't remember exactly
because even EPS management within OOo/LibO wasn't brilliant. The only
other thing I can think of is Scribus...


Alex






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[tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Detailed instructions for installing LibreOffice on Macintosh

[David Nelson]

Hi Alex, :-)

A big thanks for that. ;-)

David Nelson

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[tdf-discuss] Detailed instructions for installing LibreOffice on Macintosh

[David Nelson]

Hi, :-)

I'm currently working on the content of the upcoming libreoffice.org
website. Obviously, on the site, there are going to be detailed
installation instructions for our users.

I don't have a Macintosh, unfortunately, and I need detailed
instructions for installing LibreOffice on Mac, *also* covering
installation of a language pack

I also need to know whether it is necessary to de-install a previous
version of LibO (or of OOo) before installing a new version. If so, I
need detailed instructions on how to de-install an existing version.

Could one of you Mac users out there help me out with this? (I need to
finalize the content this weekend, so that we can roll-out the site.)

If you're able to provide screenshots, this would be a great optional
extra. in that case, please feel free to mail them to me directly.

A big thanks if so! ;-)

David Nelson

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Re: [tdf-discuss] PDF export in CMYK

[Fernand Vanrie]

Tibor

thank you both for answers, I understand now the situation...
My friend is historcian and he is not interested in learning any DTP technics – 
that is quite understandable.
His first pdf exported from OO was flatly rejected as it was in RBG. It is 
fault or shortcoming of this publishing shop but he will not change it.
Today, I found and tested pstill tool, it converts pdf to CMYK pdf, only colors 
(in included photos) are somehow shifted, or undersaturated. I had not 
investigated this issue yet, it might be something trivial …
No not trivial, thats wath i mend with using correct colorspace, when 
the pictures in a LO doc are all the same colorspace, then tranforming 
to CMYK has a better change to produce better colors.

This was some background, but I have following question:

You wrote:

„Important for this process  is using the correct colorspace (sRGB or adobeRGB) 
is more important and there are we have no tools in LO !“ - are you trying to 
say, that OO/LibreOffice exports PDFs to wrong RGB type that can not be 
converted properly into CMYK pdf? If this would be the case it would be quite 
serious problem...
I supose LO is not touching the colorspace precent in the original 
pictures, we slould have a tool (at least in draw) yo check the 
colorspace in a picture and to alter this all to the same space.

Regards

Tibor



On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 09:08:38 +0100, Fernand Vanrie  wrote:


Tibor,

A few years ago i would say yes a good idea that "CMYK" but deaser days
RGB is a common workflow due to the online use of the same (rgb)
documents. CMYK is "printer" business so they mostly prefer to do the
transfer off a RGB-pdf into a CMYK-pdf.
Important for this process  is using the correct colorspace (sRGB or
adobeRGB) is more important and there are we have no tools in LO !

Fernand

Hi,
Friend of mine had an issue with openoffice, He was asked to deliver pdf in 
CMYK colorspace. It is not possible by now AFAIK. But are there any plans or 
any work being done in this regard? I just wonder, it is not critical issue for 
me, nor for my friend. He used some Adobe product at the end...

Regards










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