[steering-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] official source code repository for CD distribution[was: DVD and Jewel case design]
Hi Tom, Tom Davies schrieb: Hi :) I think you need to put the original source code on the Cd. No, it is sufficient to provide a link to the code, but this link must be valid for a reasonable time. Due to server capacities I don't know if TDF will be able to provide such continuously reachable links to every version of LibreOffice, but this should be discussed by the SC (CC'ing the SC-discuss list). If we have a reliable external repository for previous versions (don't know how long they need to be stored - 3 years?), CDs could link there. For DVD with enough space on the disc it is easier to include the sources IMHO. The GPL agreement allows you and/or the library/school to make a small profit from the sale of the Cds and to cover costs. It's LGPL, but this doesn't make a difference, as LGPL refers to GPL. As far a I know there is no clause in the license that hinders anybody to take as much money as wanted for the CDs/DVDs. But I'd like to see us pointing out, that fair use of LibreOffice includes the information about free download from our website, so everybody will have the chance to decide how much she is willing to pay. (And part of the money earned by selling CDs/DVDs could be donated to the community...) I guess an ideal Cd would have the installers for all the various platforms along with the source code but you might want to have different Cds for Windows Mac and possibly Linux. That depends on the goals of the CDs/DVDs. I like the approach of LibreOffice-Box (present state at http://www.libreofficebox.org/, at the moment only in German) providing an ISO with all installers, source code, documentation, extensions and artwork (as well as related open source software) on DVD. But if you want to provide CDs only it might be necessary to divide the installers by language or operating system. Best regards Bernhard -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [steering-discuss] Re: Decisions about libreoffice.org English main site management
Hi David, On 07/01/2011 18:12, David Nelson wrote: Hi guys, :-) this is the girl of the story ;) I would like to make a proposal. I consider that the libreoffice.org website is a resource that can be of strategic importance to TDF and the community. I have a bunch of ideas for further developing it and using it to further the project's aims and interests. Yes, you're right and it's great to see you enthusiasm ! To do that job, I would ask - for a period of 4 months, subsequently renewable on condition of the SC's approval - for complete authority and final veto on all content on the libreoffice.org website. I want to be considered *the boss* of the libreoffice.org website, and my decisions would only be overridden by a majority vote of SC members. Anything short of that, my decision wins. Like the others, I don't like the idea of 'complete authority and final veto on all content'. No problem for me to consider you like *the boss* if you prefer to have a title, but we are an open source project and decision process is not working this way. I absolutely do not feel comfortable with the SC members voting on each decision, I mean the website team should be able to work and reach a consensus by its own on what should be on line. There has been a failure at filling the website content at the beginning. From my side I thought that in front of the emergency, an English native language speaker will wake up and fill it. Ok, that has not work this way this time, but I won't draw a picture with only a piece of it. The website team has to think about it and change his way to work or appeal for collaboration. Like in *any* other part of the project, the collaboration mode is how we work and how we are willing to work. Even if one take the final decision (the one you would call the lead), it's because others have reach an agreement on this final decision. And sometime it takes time (even years), but no matter, we do not have commercial pressure or something like that, we have a community that we want to be happy and for a long time. This would give me the necessary authority to try some imaginative and ambitious plans that I will put to Marketing. Like Italo said, there is a marketing project and tasks should be coordinated with it. Also, the website is not only for marketing, it's also for contributors and so it engages much more than marketing. Last, I don't see why you need an authority to put your imaginative and ambitious plans on a staging site where it can be reviewed and discussed before being implemented. And I'm really curious to see it soon :-) I would ask for the title of Executive editor of the libreoffice.org website. The only reason I have for asking for this title is that it gives me a handle to use in relations with outside parties, such as the press. Also Italo expertise, here. Currently not every body can speak publicly in the name of TDF (even not me :-), and I think it's good. If you feel able to grant me this trust, you can be sure that I will act responsibly and wisely, and that my sole aim will be to advance and protect the interests of the LibreOffice project and community. I won't trust you less if you're not the big boss. You've work on several parts of the project, the work you've done is good and important for our project and you've done it with respect of the community values. This is why I trust you. You have already act responsibly and wisely without having the complete authority and final veto. I believe in teamwork and community-building. I would be keen to listen to and to learn from others, and to take the smartest decisions possible. I would seek to leave behind a positive contribution. I believe in your work and what you've done on the website content, also on the documentation project. You have found your place in our project, you are organizing the documentation project and the tool it will use for its workflow, you've work on the website content and want to go on. I'm really happy to have you near me :-) I'll be also really happy to help you work with the others among the design team, the marketing team, the l10n team, etc. Your decision would be sealed by an official vote at the next SC meeting. My vote will be -1 because of the reasons above and I join also Christian conclusion. But I really don't want you to resign. I would like to offer my help and any time you need to discuss further how we work. Most of us are in open source projects for quite a long time, we have had to learn also, if I can help you, it sincerely will be my pleasure :) Kind regards Sophie -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [steering-discuss] Adoption and implementation of the Community Bylaws
Hi David, SC members, all David Nelson schrieb: Hi SC members, :-) Charles wrote an excellent set of Community Bylaws. I would like to see them officially adopted and applied. And I would like to see the various committees and governance systems in the Community Bylaws set up and become active. The Bylaws have been approved by the SC during their last call (or the one before), so they are already adopted. What needs to be done, is to establish the Membership Committee. This board will decide on the requests to become formal TDF members - a precondition for electing a Board of Directors later on. While the tasks of the BoD are worked on by the SC members by now, the Membership Committee's tasks can't be done by them too. I feel that this is important for the future of LibreOffice. I strongly support the project, and I want to see it succeed. I think we need to take action quite quickly. It is important - no question. But I don't see it as critical as you: The TDF membership doesn't lead to any other workflow or decision making than nowadays. People interested in working on a specific area do the work there - if they understand, that other areas are more important at the moment, they will probably change their focus. After the release of LibO 3.3.0 the Membership committee could start their work in approving all the requests by active community members to become TDF members. This will probably take a several weeks, but the main part of their work will be finished before we start the election process for the Board of Directors, that has to be established in September latest (as proposed by the Steering Committee limiting it's existence to not more than one year). I have noted how the level of involvement and contribution by active community members has tailed off. I have noticed how few user support queries there are on the user support list. It is my impression that the level of contribution to development is also decreasing. This is your impression. Mine is quite different. For me the most important point is how the open source basis for the community is filled with life - and brought to the public. We have ten years history as an open source project, pushed and limited at the same time by the leading habit of Sun/Oracle as main contributor. New contributors need to find their position in the existing community - we don't want to re-event the wheel in areas that have been successful in the past. We have a situation in which a key project resource, the libreoffice.org website, is becoming the center of pushing and pulling for control over its development. Decisions are needed about the website's management (editorial team), and about the future direction of its development (the question of Drupal adoption is becoming extremely disruptive and divisive in this fledgling project). All these decisions will be taken - either by the website team, or (if this team will not be able to find a common way without damaging the community as a whole) by the Steering Committee. But could you please release your website proposal before you request new steps and decisions over and over again? You probably don't have the time to reply to the proposals for a website leading team in your other thread, as you are finishing the website until tomorrow. So I'd ask you to let the community have some time and find a way of common goals and ways to reach them. This will not be possible without discussion. But these discussions will lead to results - they are not superfluous at all. I personally have experienced wanting to implement 2 great initiatives (proactive contact with Linux projects, and organization of interviews with BBC TV and radio for Charles and/or other SC members) only to find certain SC members strongly discouraging me to take action, refusing to give any constructive consideration, or totally ignoring me and not giving any reaction at all on the subject. I can't tell you anything about the BBC contacts you mention, but I see the results of your request for participation at the Linux design teams (to create our logo9: As our infrastructure had not at all been ready to provide a place for the Linux designers to work collaboratively together with the LibO community, they became quiet after a very short period of time (perhaps they turned their back on LibO totally). When we'll reach at them again - after establishing our branding and infrastructure - I don't know who will be interested again... Of course this is mainly a problem of communication - if we would have been able to tell you what is necessary to lead people towards a project and to *keep them active* (and we know that from our experience in OOo), this step could have been coordinated better. But we didn't have the time to prepare everything properly - we have to establish our new infrastructure now... When I have suggested bold initiatives, there have been very
[tdf-discuss] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
Hi, :-) I need some more sample files with which I can produce screenshots for the libreoffice.org, from *all* the LibO apps. If you have LibO files (from Writer, Calc and Impress) that contain attractively-presented content that is not copyrighted, please mail them to me ASAP. If you have any well-presented equations for Math, I need some more too. Similarly, if you have any databases for Base with well-peopled tables, and with forms and reports, I need them, too. Thanks for any help. ;-) David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
Hi all, On 08/01/2011 15:48, David Nelson wrote: Hi, :-) I need some more sample files with which I can produce screenshots for the libreoffice.org, from *all* the LibO apps. If you have LibO files (from Writer, Calc and Impress) that contain attractively-presented content that is not copyrighted, please mail them to me ASAP. If you have any well-presented equations for Math, I need some more too. Similarly, if you have any databases for Base with well-peopled tables, and with forms and reports, I need them, too. In English and not under Windows, please :-) Thanks for any help. ;-) +1 Kind regards Sophie -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: Mac App Store
Ben, To be frank I would be very tempted by the Mac App Store. We would gain a lot of traction and perhaps revenue. I read the links you provided with attention but what I can gather is somewhat controversial or at least would require some sort of legal workaround. Let me explain what I see: - FSF thinks the Mac App Store policies are in contraddiction with the GPL and points to specific clauses in it. - the neat and clean way to do this is to relicense the software completely. We cannot do this -one of the reasons is that we don't want a copyright assignment- but even if we had one we would still be hindered by the Oracle copyright in it. Last but not least, at this Westnoth is in conflict with the FSF. I usually consider myself a free and independent thinking person but I also know that the FSF is our friend. We talk to them. Why making ennemies? Just my 2 euro cents, -- Charles. Sent with Sparrow On samedi 8 janvier 2011 at 00:06, Benjamin Horst wrote: On Jan 7, 2011, at 5:00 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: I was told there is an issue with mac and the GPL and LGPL licensing. not sure what exactly though. Some quick reading shows the issue is not at all clear. For example, the Wesnoth community has debated this in depth, but the ultimate result is that Wesnoth is currently available in the App Store (for iOS), and even charges a small fee. (Just as Fabian Rodriguez suggested earlier in this thread.) An article on their community discussion is here: http://lwn.net/Articles/396535/ If you have iTunes, you can see the app store page for Wesnoth here: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/battle-for-wesnoth/id340691963?mt=8 Thus, it does not appear that Apple would block LibO because of our LGPL license (Wesnoth is GPL v2). The FSF is very unhappy with the App Store, but this does not appear to be a dealbreaker if we wish to go ahead with it. -Ben Benjamin Horst bho...@mac.com 646-464-2314 (Eastern) www.solidoffice.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
On Sat, 2011-01-08 at 15:57 +0300, sophie wrote: Hi all, On 08/01/2011 15:48, David Nelson wrote: Hi, :-) I need some more sample files with which I can produce screenshots for the libreoffice.org, from *all* the LibO apps. If you have LibO files (from Writer, Calc and Impress) that contain attractively-presented content that is not copyrighted, please mail them to me ASAP. If you have any well-presented equations for Math, I need some more too. Similarly, if you have any databases for Base with well-peopled tables, and with forms and reports, I need them, too. In English and not under Windows, please :-) Windowsarrrgh - ok. *smile* @David - is there a particular size you want? Thanks for any help. ;-) +1 +1 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Mac App Store
On 11-01-07 06:06 PM, Benjamin Horst wrote: [...] Thus, it does not appear that Apple would block LibO because of our LGPL license (Wesnoth is GPL v2). The FSF is very unhappy with the App Store, but this does not appear to be a dealbreaker if we wish to go ahead with it. -Ben Benjamin Horst bho...@mac.com 646-464-2314 (Eastern) www.solidoffice.com Apple won't likely block the app until the FSF or its author (as happened with VLC) demands that they comply with the licenses. If/when that happens is another story. Cheers, Fabian -- LibreOffice questions ? Des questions sur LibreOffice ? Preguntas acerca de LibreOffice ? Ask LibreOffice: http://libreoffice.shapado.com/ ~ Fabián Rodríguez http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MagicFab -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
Hi David, On 08/01/2011 16:19, David Nelson wrote: Hi Drew, :-) Guy I need sample FILES not screenshots. I'll do all screenshots myself in a uniform manner And Sophie, sorry, but they *will* be under Windows, not Linux, even though I'm a full-time Linux user myself, because *most* people use Windows and I don't want people thinking LibreOffice is some kind of marginal, geek product. There is some legal reasons for not having them under Windows, from what I remember you're not allowed to make screenshots of Windows product, this is noted on their website. You can make the skin of your Linux looks like Windows and you're safe :-) TIA for any good data files you got. IN ENGLISH. The difficult part for me ;-) If they are in English, they are not mine :) Kind regards Sophie -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
Hi Drew, :-) Or, if you feel able to help out by taking screenshots yourself, then: a) a big thanks for the helping hand! ;-) b) take them under MS Windows using a DARK SLATE GRAY theme (window frame, etc) (I fail to believe that Bill is going to sue us because we took screenshots of our own product under MS Windows...) c) take the *window only* - no desktop d) 400px wide by 300px tall - please try not to stretch/squash the proportions e) Anything up to a dozen good shots from each app is what I'm hoping to accumulate in each app, demo the ke features: in Writer, tables, indexes, etc. I'm sure you see what I mean Just mail me whatever you got, whatever you can, when you can, and - once again - a *big* thanks :-D David Nelson On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 21:32, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Sat, 2011-01-08 at 21:19 +0800, David Nelson wrote: Hi Drew, :-) Guy I need sample FILES not screenshots. I'll do all screenshots myself in a uniform manner Ok, most of what I have does not use embedded database files, but I have a few of those also. Will send a these direct to your email account. Ciao, Drew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
Hi David, Drew, On 08/01/2011 16:45, David Nelson wrote: Hi Drew, :-) Or, if you feel able to help out by taking screenshots yourself, then: a) a big thanks for the helping hand! ;-) b) take them under MS Windows using a DARK SLATE GRAY theme (window frame, etc) (I fail to believe that Bill is going to sue us because we took screenshots of our own product under MS Windows...) Sorry to insist but I don't want to take the risk : This is what is written on the site :* Requirements for Allowed Uses* For permission to be granted for any uses allowed by these guidelines, you must comply with the following four requirements: 1. If your use includes references to a Microsoft product, you must use the full name of the product. When referencing any Microsoft trademarks, follow the General Microsoft Trademark Guidelines http://www.microsoft.com/About/Legal/EN/US/IntellectualProperty/Trademarks/Default.aspx. 2. You must include the following statement: Used with permission from Microsoft. 3. Your use may not be obscene or pornographic, and you may not be disparaging, defamatory, or libelous to Microsoft, any of its products, or any other person or entity. 4. You may link to Microsoft content by using either a plain text link with words such as This way to Microsoft.com or by participating in an applicable Link Logo program. No other images may be used as a link to a Microsoft site. Screen Shots You may not use screen shots of Microsoft product boot-up screens, opening screens, splash screens, or screens from beta release products or other products that have not been commercially released. You may use other screen shots in advertising, in documentation (including educational brochures), in tutorial books, in videotapes, or on Web sites, provided that, in addition to the requirements above, you: 1. Do not alter the screen shot except to resize it. 2. Do not use portions of screen shots. 3. Do not include screen shots in your product user interface. 4. Do not use screen shots that contain third-party content. 5. Do not use screen shots that contain an image of an identifiable individual. So it is clear that you're not allowed to take screenshots showing LibO on a Windows system. And I don't find very sexy to add on each Used with permission from Microsoft As said you can adapt the LibO theme and your Linux them to look more Windows like and everything will be ok. This is what we have done for years for OOo and guess what, we have sell several copy of it ;-) Kind regards Sophie -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
+1 On 8.1.2011 13:57, sophie wrote: Hi all, On 08/01/2011 15:48, David Nelson wrote: Hi, :-) I need some more sample files with which I can produce screenshots for the libreoffice.org, from *all* the LibO apps. If you have LibO files (from Writer, Calc and Impress) that contain attractively-presented content that is not copyrighted, please mail them to me ASAP. If you have any well-presented equations for Math, I need some more too. Similarly, if you have any databases for Base with well-peopled tables, and with forms and reports, I need them, too. In English and not under Windows, please :-) Thanks for any help. ;-) +1 Kind regards Sophie -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Mac App Store
Hi Am 08.01.11 14:23, schrieb Fabián Rodríguez: Apple won't likely block the app until the FSF or its author (as happened with VLC) demands that they comply with the licenses. If/when that happens is another story. Concerning VCL: ...Rémi Denis-Courmont waged a one-man campaign against Applidium's iOS port of VLC, claiming the app violated the GNU public license (GPL) because App Store purchases have Digital Rights Management (DRM) applied to them. [1] I do not know if this applies to AppStore for normal Applications (not iOS) as well - the point her was iOS' DRM system for purchases. [1] http://www.tuaw.com/2011/01/08/vlc-app-removed-from-app-store/ -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Uwe Altmann OpenOffice.org - auch auf dem Mac! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
Hi Sophie, :-) Truthfully, your interpretation of what that text refers to is erroneous... they are talking of screenshots of Microsoft products such as MS Windows or Office, but *not* of screenshots taken of other people's products and works simply running under MS Windows... There's no need to worry. You see screenshots of software running under Windows *all over the Internet*... ;-) We're perfectly safe. ;-) In any case, I already took a large number of screenshots, and our documentation is *full* of screenshots taken under Windows, so this would involve an *enormous* amount of work to rectify.. ;-) David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
Hi Drew, all, ;-) if you feel able to help out by taking screenshots yourself, then: a) a big thanks for the helping hand! ;-) b) take them under MS Windows using a DARK SLATE GRAY theme (window frame, etc) (I fail to believe that Bill is going to sue us because we took screenshots of our own product under MS Windows...) c) take the *window only* - no desktop d) 400px wide by 300px tall - please try not to stretch/squash the proportions e) Anything up to a dozen good shots from each app is what I'm hoping to accumulate in each app, demo the ke features: in Writer, tables, indexes, etc. I'm sure you see what I mean Just mail me whatever you got, whatever you can, when you can, and - once again - a *big* thanks :-D So, once again, my need is the above. ;-) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [libreo ffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffic e-design] Urgent call for sampl e files for producing screenshots
I'd be happy to provide Trisquel / Ubuntu screenshots which would also mean the docs can be freely licensed. I can provide a few samples, how many screenshots would be needed total? sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, Drew, On 08/01/2011 16:45, David Nelson wrote: Hi Drew, :-) Or, if you feel able to help out by taking screenshots yourself, then: a) a big thanks for the helping hand! ;-) b) take them under MS Windows using a DARK SLATE GRAY theme (window frame, etc) (I fail to believe that Bill is going to sue us because we took screenshots of our own product under MS Windows...) Sorry to insist but I don't want to take the risk : This is what is written on the site :* Requirements for Allowed Uses* For permission to be granted for any uses allowed by these guidelines, you must comply with the following four requirements: 1. If your use includes references to a Microsoft product, you must use the full name of the product. When referencing any Microsoft trademarks, follow the General Microsoft Trademark Guidelines http://www.microsoft.com/About/Legal/EN/US/IntellectualProperty/Trademarks/Default.aspx. 2. You must include the following statement: Used with permission from Microsoft. 3. Your use may not be obscene or pornographic, and you may not be disparaging, defamatory, or libelous to Microsoft, any of its products, or any other person or entity. 4. You may link to Microsoft content by using either a plain text link with words such as This way to Microsoft.com or by participating in an applicable Link Logo program. No other images may be used as a link to a Microsoft site. Screen Shots You may not use screen shots of Microsoft product boot-up screens, opening screens, splash screens, or screens from beta release products or other products that have not been commercially released. You may use other screen shots in advertising, in documentation (including educational brochures), in tutorial books, in videotapes, or on Web sites, provided that, in addition to the requirements above, you: 1. Do not alter the screen shot except to resize it. 2. Do not use portions of screen shots. 3. Do not include screen shots in your product user interface. 4. Do not use screen shots that contain third-party content. 5. Do not use screen shots that contain an image of an identifiable individual. So it is clear that you're not allowed to take screenshots showing LibO on a Windows system. And I don't find very sexy to add on each Used with permission from Microsoft As said you can adapt the LibO theme and your Linux them to look more Windows like and everything will be ok. This is what we have done for years for OOo and guess what, we have sell several copy of it ;-) Kind regards Sophie -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
Hi Fabian, Drew, all, :-) if you feel able to help out by taking screenshots yourself, then: a) a big thanks for the helping hand! ;-) b) take them under MS Windows using a DARK SLATE GRAY theme (window frame, etc) (or if you really want to use Linux, a theme that closely resembles the above) c) take the *window only* - no desktop d) 400px wide by 300px tall - please try not to stretch/squash the proportions e) Anything up to a dozen good shots from each app is what I'm hoping to accumulate in each app, demo the ke features: in Writer, tables, indexes, etc. I'm sure you see what I mean (that would ideally be a total of 60 to 70 screenshots of the 6 products? but you best effort will be gratefully accepted... ;-) Just mail me whatever you got, whatever you can, when you can, and - once again - a *big* thanks :-D Or, please just send me sample documents that I can use. ;-) David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
Hi David, On 08/01/2011 17:54, David Nelson wrote: Hi Sophie, :-) Truthfully, your interpretation of what that text refers to is erroneous... they are talking of screenshots of Microsoft products such as MS Windows or Office, but *not* of screenshots taken of other people's products and works simply running under MS Windows... There's no need to worry. You see screenshots of software running under Windows *all over the Internet*... ;-) We're perfectly safe. ;-) No, it's not my interpretation (I know I may not have a full understanding of another language :), we never get a firm statement but only different interpretations from lawyers, this is why we have decided to not use screen shots made using Windows. I can't remember where the discussions occurs on the OOo site, maybe website list, I'll point you to the archives otherwise. It may sound stupid, but can you imagine that I had to declare people using ssh for the OOoFR site in France several years ago because the encryption we used was not allowed and considered as a security issue. I'm sure the Debian contributors never have to do so. Just to say that we have to be cautious. In any case, I already took a large number of screenshots, and our documentation is *full* of screenshots taken under Windows, so this would involve an *enormous* amount of work to rectify.. ;-) Yes may be, but it's not a sufficient reason to continue to take the risk :). The more we are visible and known, the more we are exposed. Kind regards Sophie -- Founding member of The Document Foundation -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] download buttons in TDF site.
Hi! I just want to know who did the download buttons in TDF site (http://www.documentfoundation.org/download/ ) ? How can I add those buttons in LibreOffice finnish site? Of course text on buttons will be in finnish. I have account to wiki and LibreOffice web pages. Sincerely Jan Parttimaa -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
Hi, :-) To restate the need... I need some more sample files with which I can produce screenshots for the libreoffice.org, from *all* the LibO apps. If you have LibO files (from Writer, Calc and Impress) that contain attractively-presented content that is not copyrighted, please mail them to me ASAP. If you have any well-presented equations for Math, I need some more too. Similarly, if you have any databases for Base with well-peopled tables, and with forms and reports, I need them, too. Or, if you feel able to help out by taking screenshots yourself, then: a) a big thanks for the helping hand! ;-) b) take them using a theme that closely resembles MS Windows using a DARK SLATE GRAY theme (window frame, etc) c) take the *window only* - no desktop d) 400px wide by 300px tall - please try not to stretch/squash the proportions e) Anything up to a dozen good shots from each app is what I'm hoping to accumulate in each app, demo the ke features: in Writer, tables, indexes, etc. I'm sure you see what I mean f) The file you use for taking the screenshot should ideally be called sample.odt (or whatever extension) Just mail me whatever you got, whatever you can, when you can, and - once again - a *big* thanks :-D -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] download buttons in TDF site.
You're welcome. ;-) David Nelson On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 00:10, Jan Parttimaa jan.partti...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you so much I appreciate it :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
On Sat, 2011-01-08 at 21:19 +0800, David Nelson wrote: And Sophie, sorry, but they *will* be under Windows, not Linux, even though I'm a full-time Linux user myself, because Hi David, I don't remember all the details on the research on this from OO.o but I certainly remember it happened. @David There are many things such as layout of the screens right now that I would simply defer to you at the moment, however in your statement above there isn't any because, because that just isn't the type of unilateral decision any one of us can make, in that fashion, on something like this. I know from reading your other mail that you have created shots under MS Windows and am sorry for what is therefore a burden on your efforts but I don't think there is a lot of wiggle room here. There are a few files I've found that would show well IMO and I can theme close to MS Windows but using Ubuntu or SUSE right now and honestly it would be nice to, IMO, and I know 'we' could, get a set of Mac screens also - which is not entangled, I think. Anyway, that is how I see it and is my opinion. Thanks Drew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
Hi, :-) OK, restatement of need again. I am going to scrap all the screenshots I previously took under Windows and completely start again. For those of you who want to help me with screenshots, can we please follow these bases *exactly*, so that we get a uniform set of shots that don't spoil the site design? (I am starting my shot-taking now, and won't be re-doing it again, so this is the way the shots on the site are going to be for the moment.) I have decided to adopt 1000px by 750px for the window size when taking the shot. (Under Ubuntu, you can easily use Screen Ruler for accurately sizing the window. The actual graphic shown on the pages will be downsized.) I am going to use screenshots taken under Ubuntu with the default Ambiance theme (with *no* visual effects activated). Reminder: I need some more sample files with which I can produce screenshots for the libreoffice.org, from *all* the LibO apps. If you have LibO files (from Writer, Calc and Impress) that contain attractively-presented content that is not copyrighted, please mail them to me ASAP. If you have any well-presented equations for Math, I need some more too. Similarly, if you have any databases for Base with well-peopled tables, and with forms and reports, I need them, too. Or, if you feel able to help out by taking screenshots yourself, then: a) Take them under Ubuntu Linux, using the Ambiance theme, with *no* visual effects. b) Take the *window only* with the window frame - not the whole desktop. c) 1000px wide by 750px tall - you can use Screen Ruler to accurately size the window. e) Anything up to a dozen good shots from each app is what I'm hoping to accumulate in each app, demo the key features: in Writer, tables, indexes, etc. I'm sure you see what I mean f) The file you use for taking the screenshot should ideally be called sample.odt (or whatever extension) I'll be working on this today Sunday, Jan 9, and tomorrow Monday, Jan 10. I'll be able to use all your contributions that comply with the above and that arrive within these 2 days. Please mail your contributions directly to me. ;-) A big thanks for any help. ;-) P.S. If you're not posting specifically about the work I'm talking about on this thread, please post under another thread and do not go OT here. Thanks for you kind understanding about this. David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
