Re: [tdf-discuss] the Meaning of access in manifesto
Hi, At 22:28 8/02/2011, Johannes A. Bodwing wrote: Hello, what does access mean in the manifesto: to eliminate the digital divide in society by giving everyone access to office productivity tools free of charge to enable them to participate as full citizens in the 21st century Is it only the possibility for someone to download from TDF/LO-Sites or a more active way like a distribution by pre-installed LO on PC too? What does TDF really/precisely understand with access? There is one other meaning of access that has not been diccussed in this thread: accessibility for persons with disabilities. In this sense, inaccessible software is software that does not implement an accessibility API [1], that does not allow full keyboard access, that does not inherit desktop themes (colour combinations, large text icons, ...), etcetera. Inaccessible software creates or contributes to a digital divide between people with disabilities and other users. This would affect, for example, 18.7% of the US population (in 2005 [2]), so it is not a marginal phenomenon. Elderly users often have similar needs, as their vision, hearing and mobility decreases with age (but they don't want to be considered as people with disabilities, it's all just part of getting old). I assume you are all aware of the demographic shift in many countries [3]. In addition to this, some governments (e.g. the US federal government) are not allowed to buy inaccessible software. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Accessibility_API [2] http://www.practicalecommerce.com/articles/1417-Accessibility-How-Many-Disabled-Web-Users-Are-There- [3] http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-wai-age-literature-20080514/. Best regards, Christophe Strobbe -- Christophe Strobbe K.U.Leuven - Dept. of Electrical Engineering - SCD Research Group on Document Architectures Kasteelpark Arenberg 10 bus 2442 B-3001 Leuven-Heverlee BELGIUM tel: +32 16 32 85 51 http://www.docarch.be/ Twitter: @RabelaisA11y --- Better products and services through end-user empowerment www.usem-net.eu - www.stand4all.eu --- Please don't invite me to Facebook, Quechup or other social networks. You may have agreed to their privacy policy, but I haven't. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Suppression of Blank Lines in Addresses in Labels and Envelopes from Data Base
On 09/02/2011 16:16, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2011-02-09 9:28 AM, Alan Reeve wrote: On 09/02/2011 12:05, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2011-02-09 6:12 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote: As to your bug correction request, you would be better off filing a bug report at freedesktop.org, which is where TDF has decided that all such reports should be filed, or even better still with Oracle. And/or the Openoffice bug tracker (shudder)... Thank you for your suggestion. I requested OOo to improve this about 18 months ago On their email list? Or did you open an actual bug/feature request? and guess what Wouldn't surprise me that it was ignored even if you did do it via the bug tracker, but if you didn't, then there is NO way it will every get done... and same goes for LibO - you have to open an actual trackable request, not just send an email... Hi there Thanks for comments. Yes, I did follow all the OOo procedures. But nothing happened. FYI, the OOo track was: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=107476 Alan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Foundation Fundraising
On 9 February 2011 18:44, toki toki.kant...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/08/2011 04:36 PM, BRM wrote: Why resort to deception and Microsoft-esque tactics to promote LO? FWIW, it isn't uncommon for 501(c)3 organizations to have a for-profit organization operating at an arm's length. Microsoft-esque only if you think that a 501(c)(3) organization should pay corporate income tax on all the revenue it generates. And this is very different in the UK. The only companies that are able to allow donations against tax are registered charities so a foundation set up as a company limited by guarantee or a CIC will not get tax relief on donations. They will be able to allow operating expenses against tax which is why there is no tax to pay if they don't make a profit. It's not different from any other commercial venture, usually they just don't pay dividends to shareholders they put that money back into the service the company was set up to support. If a lot of income is likely to come from donations, in the longer term an organisation that can claim back the tax paid is essential but it might be necessary to do something less optimal as a stepping stone to get there. Depending upon how much revenue is generated from sources other than grants and donations, for the US at least, serious consideration needs to be given to establishing a for-profit that operates at an arm's length. The thing is that company law is different in different countries so in a multinational project some account has to be taken of that. It seems, for example, much more expensive to set up a not for profit company in DE compared to UK and tax exemptions seem easier to get for donations in a 501(c)3 in the USA. TDF owe it to its community to get the best working deal that is legal and ethical and that requires understanding of several options without getting sidetracked into spurious arguments based on half understandings and irrational fears about competitors' ethics. jonathon - -- If Bing copied Google, there wouldn't be anything new worth requesting. If Bing did not copy Google, there wouldn't be anything relevant worth requesting. DaveJakeman 20110207 Groklaw. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNUuCMAAoJEERA7YuLpVrV0BsH/ioBxAeW0SJtd3bnxdTflxJB cc6/FZHXyVfIoSq/R5etxdNyD06gyUTuO/QFB5UfnNY9ItvijPsO9No9v0GL6Y4u jHl5vT+5NJJyq+RfAjvwRt97w6KNxlyXNJs7vKF86dwvsd0dwbcgw+IoC+K9H+O5 qzU7wntzzrozLKHEu0DsPg2IOxoJS8VJP/aBeeY6C8QCPaGkCrBIx3Es/tODWTc5 ZbbKIzMzyKX6rZmXadzRDOazQ28CkK9ifaFLAEQGkI9nG/vOuqYBgi2xlx7N2/+C f73WUVHtUlFndJkLzKi0zNJPNuw3jytcD2eCavF/c+5+e2olsVeKy4QfZV0dfxg= =BkC2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications The Schools ITQ www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 You have received this email from the following company: The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Trouble installing on Windows XP
I have used OpenOffice for several years, and now I am trying to install LibreOffice on a Windows XP computer. About 4/5th the way thru installing (according to progress on the status bar), installation stops (hangs) and goes no further. There was no action clicking on Cancel button in the installation window--the only way to close the window was with the Task Manager. In case the conflict was with OpenOffice, I removed it. Now I can't install LibreOffice or even reinstall OpenOffice. In the middle of the installation process, it accesses the OpenOffice website; why? Any help is appreciated. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Trouble-installing-on-Windows-XP-tp2468799p2468799.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Foundation Fundraising
Hi, Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-02-09 09.53: Florian what i meant was what process would TDF need to take to get funding as an NGO on the EU level, or about what exactly are you talking? Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Foundation Fundraising
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