[steering-discuss] SC Meeting 2011-05-12 recording incomplete
Hi, :-) The recording of the SC meeting of 2011-05-12 placed on the wiki is incomplete. Please, would it be possible to have the recording of the entire meeting posted? David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[steering-discuss] Recent incomplete or non-existent records of SC meetings
Hi, :-) In addition to the recording of the SC meeting of 2011-05-12 [1] being incomplete (which is a pity since it contained some *interesting* discussion about the Brazilian community and about the MC), the same also applies to: * 2011-05-06 [2] * 2011-04-30 [3] * 2011-04-21 [4] * 2011-04-06 [5] * 2011-03-26 (no recording at all) * 2011-03-16 [6] All the recordings are cut short, with some containing very little audio. This is a pity since no notes were taken during some of those meetings, meaning that there is no public record at all - including of the open question time at the ends of the meetings, during which community members have the chance to bring subjects up for discussion with the SC. Another aspect that is somewhat sad is the recent fall in attendance at meetings, and the discussion about possibly greater use of e-mail as a channel for debate and decision-taking - I am hoping that this *does* mean open communication on the SC Discuss list, and not some kind of non-public process... While I do realise that people also have other areas of life to take care of, please can the SC reassure us that this is not going to be a gradual and chronic deterioration in the high standards of governance laid out in the bylaws? [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Talkyoo-537138-2011-05-12-1492250.mp3 [2] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/c/cb/Talkyoo-537138-2011-05-06-1483340.mp3 [3] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/1/16/Talkyoo-537138-2011-04-30-1473097.mp3 [4] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/4/4e/Talkyoo-537138-2011-04-21-1462577.mp3 [5] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/9/9c/Talkyoo-537138-2011-04-06-1438151.mp3 [6] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/7/75/Talkyoo-537138-2011-03-16-1403977.mp3 David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] Recent incomplete or non-existent records of SC meetings
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 3:00 PM, David Nelson comme...@traduction.biz wrote: Hi, :-) In addition to the recording of the SC meeting of 2011-05-12 [1] being incomplete (which is a pity since it contained some *interesting* discussion about the Brazilian community and about the MC), the same also applies to: * 2011-05-06 [2] * 2011-04-30 [3] * 2011-04-21 [4] * 2011-04-06 [5] * 2011-03-26 (no recording at all) * 2011-03-16 [6] That must have been a recent glitch, because I do recall having listen to these recording in their entirety a the time... actually I think that is a problem on your side. I just re-listen to http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/1/16/Talkyoo-537138-2011-04-30-1473097.mp3 and it is fine and complete Norbert -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] Recent incomplete or non-existent records of SC meetings
Hi Norbert, :-) On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 23:12, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com wrote: That must have been a recent glitch, because I do recall having listen to these recording in their entirety a the time... actually I think that is a problem on your side. I just re-listen to http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/1/16/Talkyoo-537138-2011-04-30-1473097.mp3 and it is fine and complete I have an excellent Internet connection, and looking at some of the file sizes tells me that they really are incomplete... But, even putting that aside, the lack of notes at some meetings and the falling attendance are both indisputable... David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] Recent incomplete or non-existent records of SC meetings
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 3:19 PM, David Nelson comme...@traduction.biz wrote: Hi Norbert, :-) On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 23:12, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com wrote: That must have been a recent glitch, because I do recall having listen to these recording in their entirety a the time... actually I think that is a problem on your side. I just re-listen to http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/1/16/Talkyoo-537138-2011-04-30-1473097.mp3 and it is fine and complete I have an excellent Internet connection, and looking at some of the file sizes tells me that they really are incomplete... And I just actually _listen_ to one of the one you said was incomplete... and the last seconds of the record is 'ok then..this is all.. goodbye... goodbye... goodbye... click' (i'm paraphrasing) so it sounded to me that it was the complete call., furthermore I _did_ listen to every-one of these recording available on the wiki, and, at the time at least, none of them felt like they were truncated in anyway. So... I'm not disputing that your experience may have varied, but I provided a data point that tend to suggest that any problem would be on your side of the connection (and bandwidth is not the only thing involved, the OS, the browser, the plug-ins and any number of factor may be involved) But, even putting that aside, the lack of notes at some meetings and the falling attendance are both indisputable... _I_ have not commented on that at all, hence I have not disputed your position on that either... but since you mentioned it. I would note that the lack of attendance seems to be correlated with whether the meeting was held on a week-end or on week-day. iow the usual conflict between volunteers schedules and full-staff schedule :-) Norbert -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Oracle contributes OOo Code to Apache Software Foundation's Incubator
quote REDWOOD SHORES, CA--(Marketwire - Jun 1, 2011) - With today's proposal to contribute the OpenOffice.org code to The Apache Software Foundation's Incubator, Oracle continues to demonstrate its commitment to the developer and open source communities. Donating OpenOffice.org to Apache gives this popular consumer software a mature, open, and well established infrastructure to continue well into the future. The Apache Software Foundation's model makes it possible for commercial and individual volunteer contributors to collaborate on open source product development. -- Luke Kowalski, vice president, Oracle Corporate Architecture Group. /quote More: http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/statements-on-openofficeorg-contribution-to-apache-nasdaq-orcl-1521400.htm It will be interesting to see how this works out how TDF will work with ASF. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle contributes OOo Code to Apache Software Foundation's Incubator
2011/6/1 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net quote REDWOOD SHORES, CA--(Marketwire - Jun 1, 2011) - With today's proposal to contribute the OpenOffice.org code to The Apache Software Foundation's Incubator, Oracle continues to demonstrate its commitment to the developer and open source communities. Donating OpenOffice.org to Apache gives this popular consumer software a mature, open, and well established infrastructure to continue well into the future. The Apache Software Foundation's model makes it possible for commercial and individual volunteer contributors to collaborate on open source product development. -- Luke Kowalski, vice president, Oracle Corporate Architecture Group. /quote More: http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/statements-on-openofficeorg-contribution-to-apache-nasdaq-orcl-1521400.htm It will be interesting to see how this works out how TDF will work with ASF. Fascinating, NoOp - wheels within wheels ! Thanks for posting this !... Henri -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: Oracle contributes OOo Code to Apache Software Foundation's Incubator
On 06/01/2011 09:23 AM, M Henri Day wrote: 2011/6/1 NoOp ... More: http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/statements-on-openofficeorg-contribution-to-apache-nasdaq-orcl-1521400.htm It will be interesting to see how this works out how TDF will work with ASF. Fascinating, NoOp - wheels within wheels ! Thanks for posting this !... Henri TDF's Statement: http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/06/01/statement-about-oracles-move-to-donate-openoffice-org-assets-to-the-apache-foundation/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Oracle contributes OOo Code to Apache Software Foundation's Incubator
2011/6/1 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net On 06/01/2011 09:23 AM, M Henri Day wrote: 2011/6/1 NoOp ... More: http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/statements-on-openofficeorg-contribution-to-apache-nasdaq-orcl-1521400.htm It will be interesting to see how this works out how TDF will work with ASF. Fascinating, NoOp - wheels within wheels ! Thanks for posting this !... Henri TDF's Statement: http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/06/01/statement-about-oracles-move-to-donate-openoffice-org-assets-to-the-apache-foundation/ Bravo, TDF - this is precisely the attitude we need !... Henri -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: Oracle contributes OOo Code to Apache Software Foundation's Incubator
Le 01/06/11 18:14, NoOp a écrit : It will be interesting to see how this works out how TDF will work with ASF. You gotta love corporations :-)) Just 5 months ago, ASF ditched the JCP and told Oracle to go forth and multiply, and now here it is taking on the OOo project - better than any political intrigue ever !! Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Oracle contributes OOo Code to Apache Software Foundation's Incubator
On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 09:51:09AM -0700, NoOp wrote: On 06/01/2011 09:23 AM, M Henri Day wrote: 2011/6/1 NoOp ... More: http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/statements-on-openofficeorg-contribution-to-apache-nasdaq-orcl-1521400.htm It will be interesting to see how this works out how TDF will work with ASF. Fascinating, NoOp - wheels within wheels ! Thanks for posting this !... Henri TDF's Statement: http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/06/01/statement-about-oracles-move-to-donate-openoffice-org-assets-to-the-apache-foundation/ TDF's statement included : Today we welcome Oracle’s donation of code that has previously been proprietary to the Apache Software Foundation, it is great to see key user features released in a form that can be included into LibreOffice. Since when is OOo proprietary? -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: Oracle contributes OOo Code to Apache Software Foundation's Incubator
On 06/01/2011 05:53 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 09:51:09AM -0700, NoOp wrote: ... TDF's Statement: http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/06/01/statement-about-oracles-move-to-donate-openoffice-org-assets-to-the-apache-foundation/ TDF's statement included : Today we welcome Oracle’s donation of code that has previously been proprietary to the Apache Software Foundation, it is great to see key user features released in a form that can be included into LibreOffice. Since when is OOo proprietary? Rather interesting discussions going on over on the ASF Incubator list: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.general/28435 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
