[steering-discuss] SC call on 27th
Hello, I will not be available for the SC call on the 27th (Wednesday, 1600 UTC), and would like to ask my deputy Christoph Noack to step in. FYI: The next call is this Saturday, 1400 UTC, and I will join it. The call on the 27th is the one after that. Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] Call for SC-vote: Using (Windows) Screnshots in TDF materials
Hello, David Nelson wrote on 2011-07-18 20.04: May I put it to the SC that it would be better in the motion was Screenshots for documentation, web graphics and marketing materials for LibreOffice and TDF may be taken on any computing platform, notably Linux, but also Windows, Macintosh and other operating systems and graphical user interfaces. Olivier, would this also comfort you, is this in the direction you were thinking? Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] Call for SC-vote: Using (Windows) Screnshots in TDF materials
Hi, Andre Schnabel wrote on 2011-07-19 11.56: -1 as this was not what we discussed in the call. This is missing the recommendation to use Linux screenshots (as we acknoledged, that there might be a very low risk otherwise). yes, indeed, that's what we discussed during the call. Maybe Olivier, you can elaborate on what the concrete problem is? Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] Call for SC-vote: Using (Windows) Screnshots in TDF materials
Hi :) +1 to all this. The agreed wording, that keeps getting repeated, allows screen-shots to be taken in MS Windows. The wording also cleverly allows screen-shots on other platforms. The perceived issue with MS is that MS Office is possibly their main income stream. People might buy 2 or 3 versions of MSO to upgrade that while only upgrading their OS once. If MS see TDF as a threat to that income stream then we can expect them to try to reduce that threat. Hopefully they might do that as fantastically well as they manage to build stable, secure products but we can't rely on that. Oracle fell 'easily' because it wasn't a fight they were particularly interested in but with MS its a crucial part of their business, especially if we get onto the Cloud or when people realise the Cloud is a pipe-dream and deeply flawed. Regards from Tom :) From: Olivier Hallot olivier.hal...@documentfoundation.org To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Mon, 18 July, 2011 18:30:06 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] Call for SC-vote: Using (Windows) Screnshots in TDF materials Hi my vote is to use MS Windows screenshots, for windows-only situations (as in the install) Thanks and regards 2011/7/18 André Schnabel andre.schna...@gmx.net Hi, in our latest SC-Call we discussed the issue about taking and publishing Screenshots on windows. As we had no quorum in the call, I'd ask every SC member / deputy to vote on the statement we agreed in the call. The statement is: It is noted that several members of the SC acknowledge the existence of a legal risk to display screenshots of LibreOffice on Windows, but the risk is deemed low, therefore, while screenshots on GNU/Linux should be the default ones, screenshots on Windows are also possible. Meeting minutes are at: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/TDF/**Steering_Committee_Meetings#** Minutes_2011-07-13http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Steering_Committee_Meetings#Minutes_2011-07-13 regards, André -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+help@** documentfoundation.org steering-discuss%2bh...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/** Netiquette http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.**documentfoundation.org/www/** steering-discuss/http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Olivier Hallot Founder and Steering Commitee Member The Document Foundation -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[steering-discuss] Please approve Simon Phipps as election secretary
Hi, this was briefly discussed in our last SC-Call and in the following MC-meeting. To ease the work of the current MC and help with the BoD elections (help with communication, organization and overseeing the election process), we would like to name Simon Phipps as election secretary for our next BoD elections. MC will still be responsible to prepare and oversee the elections, but Simon will do most of the communication on the topic. So I'd ask each SC member / deputy to approve this proposal. My vote is +1 regards, André -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] Please approve Simon Phipps as election secretary
Hi, Andre Schnabel wrote on 2011-07-19 16.39: To ease the work of the current MC and help with the BoD elections (help with communication, organization and overseeing the election process), we would like to name Simon Phipps as election secretary for our next BoD elections. MC will still be responsible to prepare and oversee the elections, but Simon will do most of the communication on the topic. So I'd ask each SC member / deputy to approve this proposal. +1. This of course only can work if Simon is not planning to run for a board seat. :-) Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] Call for SC-vote: Changes in the Membership Committee
Hi all, 2011/7/18 André Schnabel andre.schna...@gmx.net: Hi, [...] 1. approve all current deputies of the MC as full MC members. (so the MC will have 5 members in total - Sophie Gautier, Fridrich Strba, André Schnabel, Thorsten Behrens, Cor Nouws ) +1 2. approve that the MC should decide on applications in consensus with a needed quorum of 2/3rd (means currently 4 members). +1 Kind regards Sophie -- Founding member of The Document Foundation -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] Please approve Simon Phipps as election secretary
Am Dienstag, den 19.07.2011, 16:39 +0200 schrieb Andre Schnabel: Hi, this was briefly discussed in our last SC-Call and in the following MC-meeting. To ease the work of the current MC and help with the BoD elections (help with communication, organization and overseeing the election process), we would like to name Simon Phipps as election secretary for our next BoD elections. MC will still be responsible to prepare and oversee the elections, but Simon will do most of the communication on the topic. So I'd ask each SC member / deputy to approve this proposal. +1 (but both members I'm deputy-ing already agreed) Thanks to Simon for his offer to make things run smoother for the whole community - that's great! Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows
Hi all, On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 4:15 AM, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On 07/18/2011 06:07 PM, plino wrote: NoOp wrote: I'd recommend a followup to the dev list. plino, when you do that you might also add links to the security notices for the earlier version of VC++ 2008. The Dev list is for devs only. I have unsubscribed from it. I got crap for posting there a few times (Jesús Corrius will certainly remember Change executable/sh names - which went nowhere and are still not changed btw), so I can't blame you. Well, this is not the developers list and I don't want a discussion that goes to nowhere :) so here is my last message to this thread with my points: 1. LibreOffice and all the other applications (ok, unless they are using private assemblies[1]) will always use the lastest updated versions of the libraries installed in the system. Any user has many old libraries installed in the WinSxS directory and it's not a security threat because they are not in use. 2. The versions of the C++ libraries we are distributing are the last ones available from Microsoft as a full package. According to the security bulletin: These updates are not the versions on the download center. Microsoft does not recommend customers redistribute any version other than the full versions that can be downloaded from the Microsoft Download Center (KB973544, KB973551, and KB973552). [2] And this is what we are doing. If you check the KBxx's mentioned, these are the versions we are currently distributing. 3. When Microsoft provides new full versions of the Visual Studio 2008 runtimes, we will be happy to distribute them. So if you find new full versions in the Microsoft Download Center, let us know and we will update them immediately. [1] http://helgeklein.com/blog/2010/03/deploying-visual-c-runtime-files-as-private-assemblies/ [2] http://support.microsoft.com/kb/973924 -- Jesús Corrius je...@softcatala.org Document Foundation founding member Mobile: +34 661 11 38 26 Skype: jcorrius | Twitter: @jcorrius -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows
Jesús Corrius wrote: 1. LibreOffice and all the other applications (ok, unless they are using private assemblies[1]) will always use the lastest updated versions of the libraries installed in the system. Any user has many old libraries installed in the WinSxS directory and it's not a security threat because they are not in use. 2. The versions of the C++ libraries we are distributing are the last ones available from Microsoft as a full package. According to the security bulletin: These updates are not the versions on the download center. Microsoft does not recommend customers redistribute any version other than the full versions that can be downloaded from the Microsoft Download Center (KB973544, KB973551, and KB973552). [2] And this is what we are doing. If you check the KBxx's mentioned, these are the versions we are currently distributing. 3. When Microsoft provides new full versions of the Visual Studio 2008 runtimes, we will be happy to distribute them. So if you find new full versions in the Microsoft Download Center, let us know and we will update them immediately. I ALREADY HAVE A NEWER VERSION INSTALLED!!! LibreOffice IGNORES my NEWER VC++ and STILL installs the OLDER version included. It's a waste of time and resources. I understand that it is the version you are supposed to distribute. BUT it still needs a CHECK because there are NEWER security fixes. If you prefer to ignore this, it's fine with me. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LibO-3-4-2-RC1-under-Windows-tp3179764p3182406.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows
On 7/19/11 2:53 PM, plino wrote: I understand that it is the version you are supposed to distribute. BUT it still needs a CHECK because there are NEWER security fixes. Although I don't use Windows, I've seen a recent update of the C++ Redistributable Package under Windows 7 on a friend's PC. Online, I could just find this link, which I don't think is the right one, but mentions a Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable Package: http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=. Maybe, the new package is what gets installed on updated PCs, and might be included in LibreOffice (but I'm not a developer, and I don't know if there are differences between C++ 2008 and C++ 2010). -- Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com mobile +39.348.5653829 VoIP +39.02.320621813 skype italovignoli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/19/11 2:53 PM, plino wrote: I understand that it is the version you are supposed to distribute. BUT it still needs a CHECK because there are NEWER security fixes. Although I don't use Windows, I've seen a recent update of the C++ Redistributable Package under Windows 7 on a friend's PC. Online, I could just find this link, which I don't think is the right one, but mentions a Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable Package: http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=. Maybe, the new package is what gets installed on updated PCs, and might be included in LibreOffice (but I'm not a developer, and I don't know if there are differences between C++ 2008 and C++ 2010). Hi Italo, Yes, there are diferences. We should distribute the C++ 2008 as we are using the Visual C++ 2008 compiler to build it. -- Jesús Corrius je...@softcatala.org Document Foundation founding member Mobile: +34 661 11 38 26 Skype: jcorrius | Twitter: @jcorrius -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows
I ALREADY HAVE A NEWER VERSION INSTALLED!!! LibreOffice IGNORES my NEWER VC++ and STILL installs the OLDER version included. It's a waste of time and resources. I understand that it is the version you are supposed to distribute. BUT it still needs a CHECK because there are NEWER security fixes. If you prefer to ignore this, it's fine with me. I understand it can be annoying. But without those libraries properly installed, LibreOffice will not work. Some modifications on the Windows files or registry (or a corrupted status) is something that we can't properly detect. And in those cases, LibreOffice will not execute. We launch the installer all the time to try make sure LibreOffice will work under any circumstance. Think of that as an insurance (yes, it's annoying, but it has a good purpose). We can detect if there a new version installed, and then do nothing, but the trade-off will be to make LibreOffice less reliable. -- Jesús Corrius je...@softcatala.org Document Foundation founding member Mobile: +34 661 11 38 26 Skype: jcorrius | Twitter: @jcorrius -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] New install issue
Just installed the 3.3.3 version from the website on a clean machine and hit a problem. I already had ODT documents copied to the PC, the install when perfectly fine. Snag was, the ODT documents were not recognised and set to default to LibreOffice - and to make matters worse, couldn't be assigned to it by the file types defaults either. No idea why this is - the earlier version was perfectly fine on a different PC. Could be differences in the system, perhaps? Hardware: Leonovo N3000 laptop OS : Windows XP Sp3 Previous Office : None used Any ideas folks? What changed? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
