Re: [tdf-discuss] Status of .docX etc.
On 13/12/2011, Harold Fuchs hwfa.gmanen...@gmail.com wrote: Would someone please either explain or point me at a detailed explanation of the current status of LO vis à vis the new MS office document formats docx, xlsx etc. Here we go again: please explain why you can't afford to buy m$??? Have you written to m$ to ask for an explanation why: (1) m$ cannot write to odf standards; (2) m$ cannot write to m$ooxml itself -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Can't get LibreOffice to compile (dev-install)
On Tue, 2011-12-13 at 15:44 -0800, gptscorp wrote: Hello, I have followed the instructions on http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/ several times and get all types of quirky messages, and no matter what I do the build do succeed. What am I doing wrong? In help/suggestions are appreciated. I am building on a Windows 7 box with 2GB RAM and 260GB disk space. We'd need to know what the messages are to hazard a guess. C. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Can't get LibreOffice to compile (dev-install)
Hi John, gptscorp schrieb: Hello, I have followed the instructions on http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/ several times and get all types of quirky messages, and no matter what I do the build do succeed. What am I doing wrong? In help/suggestions are appreciated. I am building on a Windows 7 box with 2GB RAM and 260GB disk space. Building on Windows is a little bit special. Please have a look at http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Windows_Build_Dependencies and http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/BuildingOnWindowsWithCygwinAndMSVCExpress and http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Native_Build and http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Foral/Build_Win And be patient. It is possible to build on Windows, but don't expect that you are immediately successful. Kind regards Regina -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Status of .docX etc.
On 2011-12-13 3:11 PM, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com wrote: On 13/12/2011 14:43, Harold Fuchs wrote: Can LO read/import these formats for *editing*? All of them? If not, which? Yes, all of them. Can LO write/export these formats? All of them? If not, which? Yes, all of them, although - given the immense complexity and the non standard nature of MS Office formats - interoperability is not perfect, and the layout of the documents might have slight differences. Fr from perfect... Some of the most irritating issues we've had is changes to page layout/format for printing are never saved. The first thing I check when somoene is having a problem with a document is if it is in this format - if it is, saving it as odf almost always solves the problem. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] RE: Can't get LibreOffice to compile (dev-install)
Thanks for your help, I'll keep you informed. John Grace Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 04:08:17 -0800 From: ml-node+s969070n358526...@n3.nabble.com To: gptsc...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Can't get LibreOffice to compile (dev-install) Hi John, gptscorp schrieb: Hello, I have followed the instructions on http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/ several times and get all types of quirky messages, and no matter what I do the build do succeed. What am I doing wrong? In help/suggestions are appreciated. I am building on a Windows 7 box with 2GB RAM and 260GB disk space. Building on Windows is a little bit special. Please have a look at http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Windows_Build_Dependencies and http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/BuildingOnWindowsWithCygwinAndMSVCExpress and http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Native_Build and http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Foral/Build_Win And be patient. It is possible to build on Windows, but don't expect that you are immediately successful. Kind regards Regina -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [hidden email] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Can-t-get-LibreOffice-to-compile-dev-install-tp3584035p3585262.html To unsubscribe from Can't get LibreOffice to compile (dev-install), click here. NAML -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Can-t-get-LibreOffice-to-compile-dev-install-tp3584035p3585712.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] RE: Can't get LibreOffice to compile (dev-install)
hello, I am still having problems getting ANT to work. Any suggestions? I have downloaded and unzipped the zipfile, installed it and have the included it on the autogen line.I still cannot get it to work. Thanks From: gptsc...@hotmail.com To: ml-node+s969070n358526...@n3.nabble.com Subject: RE: Can't get LibreOffice to compile (dev-install) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:08:45 -0500 Thanks for your help, I'll keep you informed. John Grace Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 04:08:17 -0800 From: ml-node+s969070n358526...@n3.nabble.com To: gptsc...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Can't get LibreOffice to compile (dev-install) Hi John, gptscorp schrieb: Hello, I have followed the instructions on http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/ several times and get all types of quirky messages, and no matter what I do the build do succeed. What am I doing wrong? In help/suggestions are appreciated. I am building on a Windows 7 box with 2GB RAM and 260GB disk space. Building on Windows is a little bit special. Please have a look at http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Windows_Build_Dependencies and http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/BuildingOnWindowsWithCygwinAndMSVCExpress and http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Native_Build and http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Foral/Build_Win And be patient. It is possible to build on Windows, but don't expect that you are immediately successful. Kind regards Regina -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [hidden email] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Can-t-get-LibreOffice-to-compile-dev-install-tp3584035p3585262.html To unsubscribe from Can't get LibreOffice to compile (dev-install), click here. NAML -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Can-t-get-LibreOffice-to-compile-dev-install-tp3584035p3586171.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] RE: Can't get LibreOffice to compile (dev-install)
Hi John, gptscorp schrieb: hello, I am still having problems getting ANT to work. Any suggestions? I have downloaded and unzipped the zipfile, installed ?? There is nothing to 'install' but only to unpack. it and have the included it on the autogen line.I still cannot get it to work. Thanks Where do you put the ANT? It need to be a subfolder of Cygwin. Do you have considered that the path to Cygwin must not have blanks? Kind regards Regina -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Status of .docX etc.
Hello, I would like to know if all these formats are associated with LO when we install it. I have installed the last version ( .deb on Ubuntu 10.04) and i have ods etc associated with LO but not .docx xls How i can make this association for all the users on my server ? Thanks for your help. Sincerely, Jean Le 14/12/2011 13:14, Tanstaafl a écrit : On 2011-12-13 3:11 PM, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com wrote: On 13/12/2011 14:43, Harold Fuchs wrote: Can LO read/import these formats for *editing*? All of them? If not, which? Yes, all of them. Can LO write/export these formats? All of them? If not, which? Yes, all of them, although - given the immense complexity and the non standard nature of MS Office formats - interoperability is not perfect, and the layout of the documents might have slight differences. Fr from perfect... Some of the most irritating issues we've had is changes to page layout/format for printing are never saved. The first thing I check when somoene is having a problem with a document is if it is in this format - if it is, saving it as odf almost always solves the problem. -- Jean Milot - jmi...@dotriver.eu - www.dotriver.euhttp://www.dotriver.eu/ 5 passage de l'avenir, F-69200 Vénissieux Fixe: +33 (0)4 27 46 39 80 Hotline: # 89 Fax: # 81 SolidariCloud, Serveurs solidaires pour les associations et les fondations http://tinyurl.com/69degxt Lauréat du prix de la croissance verte numérique 2010, catégorie coup de coeur http://tinyurl.com/6ct9xxv Pas à pas, agissons au quotidien pour préserver notre environnement. N'imprimez que si nécessaire, réduisez les déchets informatiques et économisez l'énergie en utilisant les solutions DotRiver. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] RE: Can't get LibreOffice to compile (dev-install)
Thanks for the reply. I included it in the PATH variable. Now I am getting this error after I do a make dev-install: /usr/bin/sh: D:/git/libo/solver/wntmsci12.pro/bin/ulfconv: No such file or directory Any thoughts. Thanks Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:22:28 -0800 From: ml-node+s969070n3586318...@n3.nabble.com To: gptsc...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: Can't get LibreOffice to compile (dev-install) Hi John, gptscorp schrieb: hello, I am still having problems getting ANT to work. Any suggestions? I have downloaded and unzipped the zipfile, installed ?? There is nothing to 'install' but only to unpack. it and have the included it on the autogen line.I still cannot get it to work. Thanks Where do you put the ANT? It need to be a subfolder of Cygwin. Do you have considered that the path to Cygwin must not have blanks? Kind regards Regina -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [hidden email] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Can-t-get-LibreOffice-to-compile-dev-install-tp3584035p3586318.html To unsubscribe from Can't get LibreOffice to compile (dev-install), click here. NAML -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Can-t-get-LibreOffice-to-compile-dev-install-tp3584035p3586495.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] RE: Can't get LibreOffice to compile (dev-install)
Hi John, gptscorp schrieb: Thanks for the reply. I included it in the PATH variable. Now I am getting this error after I do a make dev-install: /usr/bin/sh: D:/git/libo/solver/wntmsci12.pro/bin/ulfconv: No such file or directory Any thoughts. No. I do not use that. I build with make build and install it from the binaries in instsetoo_native. For further help you should ask on the mailing list libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org or on IRC irc://chat.freenode.net/libreoffice-dev Kind regards Regina -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] overall communication guidelines and reply-to mangling
Hi Florian, *, Am 12.12.2011 14:41 schrieb Florian Effenberger: Friedrich Strohmaier wrote on 2011-12-11 15:22: So well, I've some questions: - What makes the website list more suitable for this test than this one? - What are the criteria making this test successful or fail? nothing, .. means leave me alone? but we have been discussing for weeks now, No discussion - vaporizing comments instead, You did not care nor comment a single one. and I would like to test out the impact of reply-to mangling. Switch off reply-to mangling? Regarding testing out the impact of that change: I'll try once more: If You want to know the impact of your house burning down, there are two possibilities: - I tell you the impact of burning down your house - I show you the impact of burning down your house If I tell you the impact of burning down your house you can imagine. If I show you the impact of burning down your house you can see. Same thing about knowing the impact of changing the behaviour of the mailinglists. As You play with the motivation of volunteers, how do you evaluate the result of test out the impact? Do you count the corpses i.e. the lost volunteers? The way You want to go, is one where you can't win. The best case is, no damage is visible, which does not mean it doesn't happen. All other cases make things go worse. Btw. I still don't know about Your motivation on this. You didn't tell a single word about. If I think of games affecting volunteer's motivation I think of games I can win only and the worst case is, that things don't change. But this is my personal preference. From what I read, Your's appear to be different. I tried to describe my vision on how to do - but I dropped hope to get it recognized by You. My offer is still valid, for what it is worth however. Really, it's been now eight weeks (!) that has been in the queue at least, If this eight weeks were ones delaying a mistake they were good ones. so... let's do it and try it out. So go ahead! Enjoy the impact You might cause. Enjoy counting corpses. Gruß/regards Friedrich -- Friedrich Strohmaier - Admin team - The Document Foundation http://www.documentfoundation.org/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] overall communication guidelines and reply-to mangling
Hello, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote on 2011-12-14 23:56: So go ahead! Enjoy the impact You might cause. Enjoy counting corpses. Corpse's Bride is a nice movie, but I guess you are not talking about it. ;-) So, my point is the following: - I have people strongly asking for disabling reply-to mangling, e.g. on the website list. - I have people strongly asking for leaving reply-to mangling as is. - So, whatever I do, someone will be upset. - I myself would like to keep reply-to mangling as is, as I have set it up for good reasons. - We have been discussing that issue for two months now without any clear result, it still is that some people want it, some don't. So, what shall I do? Flip a coin? Nobody really knows what happens when we enable it. So, my proposal was, to try it out - after announcing this test - on a list where it was demanded, and where people are probably technically savvy enough to deal with it. What exactly is wrong about this proposal? What did I miss? This question is serious, no pun intended. I really feel like sitting between two chairs, and try to find the best compromise possible. Again, people left to me ask for leaving things as is, people right to me ask for changing them. What now? Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Board of Directors at The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Status of .docX etc.
On 14/12/11 10:21, e-letter wrote: On 13/12/2011, Harold Fuchs hwfa.gmanen...@gmail.com wrote: Would someone please either explain or point me at a detailed explanation of the current status of LO vis à vis the new MS office document formats docx, xlsx etc. Here we go again: please explain why you can't afford to buy m$??? Have you written to m$ to ask for an explanation why: (1) m$ cannot write to odf standards; (2) m$ cannot write to m$ooxml itself Next time you see a question here, don't answer. And signing with your name when attacking people personally is mandatory. – Olav Dahlum LibreOffice Norway -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] overall communication guidelines and reply-to mangling
Hi Flo Am 15.12.11 00:41, schrieb Florian Effenberger: ... - We have been discussing that issue for two months now without any clear result, it still is that some people want it, some don't. So, what shall I do? Flip a coin? No. It's really simple: Because a) there is no clear preferfence or decision b) you are not someone who has spare time to spent on something useless or suffering from boredom it is clear the best way is the one which causes /lesser/ work. SO - make a short statement like no clear preference for a change to those lists and leave everything as it is - or stop complaining about a lot to do/no time ;-) -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Uwe Altmann -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] overall communication guidelines and reply-to mangling
Florian Effenberger wrote (15-12-11 00:41) - So, whatever I do, someone will be upset. Poor them ;-) No serious, I don't think people involved in this discussion will be really upset. Maybe slightly disappointed. But hey :-) - I myself would like to keep reply-to mangling as is, as I have set it up for good reasons. - We have been discussing that issue for two months now without any clear result, it still is that some people want it, some don't. I stopped following it closely a long time ago. Simple, because the time involved in the discussion isn't worth the possible improvement/cost ratio. At least not IMHO. I'm fine with all solutions - simply adapt to Ctrl-R or Ctrl-SHft-R. And I notice that all people, myself included, sometimes hit the wrong keys :-) So, what shall I do? Flip a coin? Do what you suggest three paragraphs up ;-) That's the best, Florian. Regards, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
