[tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2012-01-21 Thread Pedro
Apparently someone decided that it was a good idea to replace the Floppy
icon.

I'm sorry I didn't get a change to vote (if there was any voting)

Personally I think that regardless if people know what a Floppy is, they
recognized that symbol as the Save icon (basically a blue square with a
white rectangle).

Today I loaded LO 3.5.0 RC1 and for a moment I thought the Save button was
gone, until I realized it was replaced by another icon.

I would like to understand how or when this was decided so that next time I
can have a say (or not, if user input is not required or wanted)

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2012-01-21 Thread Terry Warby

On 21/01/12 16:21, Pedro wrote:

Apparently someone decided that it was a good idea to replace the Floppy
icon.

I'm sorry I didn't get a change to vote (if there was any voting)

Personally I think that regardless if people know what a Floppy is, they
recognized that symbol as the Save icon (basically a blue square with a
white rectangle).

Today I loaded LO 3.5.0 RC1 and for a moment I thought the Save button was
gone, until I realized it was replaced by another icon.

I would like to understand how or when this was decided so that next time I
can have a say (or not, if user input is not required or wanted)

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What icon set are you using? I have 3.5RC1 installed under both Xubuntu 
11.10 and Win7 and have the floppy icon for save in both (using the 
crystal and galaxy icons).


Terry W

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[tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2012-01-21 Thread Pedro

Terry Warby wrote
 
 What icon set are you using? I have 3.5RC1 installed under both Xubuntu 
 11.10 and Win7 and have the floppy icon for save in both (using the 
 crystal and galaxy icons).
 

I was using the Automatic (Tango) icon set. I guess from now on I will have
to manually switch to another icon set.

I am aware that I can switch icon sets. Actually I had already switched
before posting here.

The point is: did everybody agree that the Floppy icon was a bad idea so
that it is no longer the default for any new user?

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2012-01-21 Thread Terry Warby

On 21/01/12 16:51, Pedro wrote:

Terry Warby wrote

What icon set are you using? I have 3.5RC1 installed under both Xubuntu
11.10 and Win7 and have the floppy icon for save in both (using the
crystal and galaxy icons).


I was using the Automatic (Tango) icon set. I guess from now on I will have
to manually switch to another icon set.

I am aware that I can switch icon sets. Actually I had already switched
before posting here.

The point is: did everybody agree that the Floppy icon was a bad idea so
that it is no longer the default for any new user?

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I didn't follow the thread that closely earlier on, but I seem to 
remember that somebody said that some of the available icon sets did not 
use the floppy icon for save. Is that correct or is my memory in error?


Terry W

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2012-01-21 Thread Terry Warby

On 21/01/12 16:51, Pedro wrote:

Terry Warby wrote

What icon set are you using? I have 3.5RC1 installed under both Xubuntu
11.10 and Win7 and have the floppy icon for save in both (using the
crystal and galaxy icons).


I was using the Automatic (Tango) icon set. I guess from now on I will have
to manually switch to another icon set.

I am aware that I can switch icon sets. Actually I had already switched
before posting here.

The point is: did everybody agree that the Floppy icon was a bad idea so
that it is no longer the default for any new user?

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Just did a quick check and it seams that of the icon sets I have 
installed only the tango icon sets don't use the floppy icon. This was 
probably covered earlier in the thread!


Terry W

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[tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2012-01-21 Thread Pedro

Terry Warby wrote
 
 Just did a quick check and it seams that of the icon sets I have 
 installed only the tango icon sets don't use the floppy icon. This was 
 probably covered earlier in the thread!
 

At least I can't find any decision or voting... That is what I'm trying to
understand.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2012-01-21 Thread Tony Pursell
Terry

On 21 January 2012 17:15, Terry Warby twcw.chenh...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 21/01/12 16:51, Pedro wrote:

 Terry Warby wrote

 What icon set are you using? I have 3.5RC1 installed under both Xubuntu
 11.10 and Win7 and have the floppy icon for save in both (using the
 crystal and galaxy icons).

  I was using the Automatic (Tango) icon set. I guess from now on I will
 have
 to manually switch to another icon set.

 I am aware that I can switch icon sets. Actually I had already switched
 before posting here.

 The point is: did everybody agree that the Floppy icon was a bad idea so
 that it is no longer the default for any new user?

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  I didn't follow the thread that closely earlier on, but I seem to
 remember that somebody said that some of the available icon sets did not
 use the floppy icon for save. Is that correct or is my memory in error?

 Terry W


 It was me that said that Ubuntu uses an icon set, by default, that does
not use a floppy disk.  I have been using LO in Ubuntu for over a year and
hadn't noticed that change until this discussion started.

As far as I know, there has been no decision, just a lot of discussion.
Most of the participants in the discussion seem to want the floppy icon
kept.  Personally, from my experience, it doesn't seem to matter.

Tony

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2012-01-21 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hi,

2012/1/21 Tony Pursell a...@princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk

 Terry

 On 21 January 2012 17:15, Terry Warby twcw.chenh...@gmail.com wrote:

  On 21/01/12 16:51, Pedro wrote:
 
  Terry Warby wrote
 
  What icon set are you using? I have 3.5RC1 installed under both Xubuntu
  11.10 and Win7 and have the floppy icon for save in both (using the
  crystal and galaxy icons).
 
   I was using the Automatic (Tango) icon set. I guess from now on I will
  have
  to manually switch to another icon set.
 
  I am aware that I can switch icon sets. Actually I had already switched
  before posting here.
 
  The point is: did everybody agree that the Floppy icon was a bad idea so
  that it is no longer the default for any new user?
 
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   I didn't follow the thread that closely earlier on, but I seem to
  remember that somebody said that some of the available icon sets did not
  use the floppy icon for save. Is that correct or is my memory in error?
 
  Terry W
 
 
  It was me that said that Ubuntu uses an icon set, by default, that does
 not use a floppy disk.  I have been using LO in Ubuntu for over a year and
 hadn't noticed that change until this discussion started.

 As far as I know, there has been no decision, just a lot of discussion.
 Most of the participants in the discussion seem to want the floppy icon
 kept.  Personally, from my experience, it doesn't seem to matter.


I didn't follow the discussion closely, but I can tell you two things:
- the discussion on this list (the discuss list) did not lead to any
decision; however the discussion on the design list might have done that as
it is the right mailing list for design and UX contributors, so that's the
normal way to go
- if the icon was changed (I don't think it has, my 3.5 beta still has the
floppy icon on the mac) then it means someone provided a replacement icon.
Again I don't remember it was the case, but changes do not occur though
discussion, they do occur through effective contribution :-)

Best,

Charles.

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[tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk

2012-01-21 Thread Pedro
Hi Charles


Charles-H. Schulz wrote
 
 - if the icon was changed (I don't think it has, my 3.5 beta still has the
 floppy icon on the mac) then it means someone provided a replacement icon.
 

It certainly has under Windows.


Charles-H. Schulz wrote
 
 Again I don't remember it was the case, but changes do not occur though
 discussion, they do occur through effective contribution :-)
 

Of course discussion without contribution is just a waste of time, but
contribution without discussion is anarchy, is it not? :)

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