Re: [tdf-discuss] The Floppy icon and meritocracy
yahoo-pier_andreit wrote: On 08/02/12 10:54, Pedro wrote: Hi all I just read the UX thread/sequence of emails where it was decided that the universal Save icon (in any program, any OS) represented by a floppy disk would be replaced by another icon. I'm shocked that a Discuss topic where 54 messages from many people (several of them opposing and presenting valid arguments against) was totally dismissed because someone decided that it was time to change and the main argument was that it was outdated. This is not about the floppy icon itself or a criticism to who decided to change it. It is about the process. If this is meritocracy then it sucks! A little democracy would go a long way to build a community. Communities don't behave like this. (Disappointed) Regards, Pedro I totally agree with you :-)) about the outdating, should airplanes change all they reference to navy language?? why you go on board of plane? is there any board in airplane?? Pier I suspect that a lot of that is because airplanes have largely replaced ships functionally. If you are crossing the Atlantic today, you will do in on an airplane, not an ocean liner. Although airplanes bank left, not hard to port. Also remember you board a train as well, as an airplane. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] The Floppy icon and meritocracy
On 09/02/2012 19:31, Robert Derman wrote: yahoo-pier_andreit wrote: On 08/02/12 10:54, Pedro wrote: Hi all I just read the UX thread/sequence of emails where it was decided that the universal Save icon (in any program, any OS) represented by a floppy disk would be replaced by another icon. I'm shocked that a Discuss topic where 54 messages from many people (several of them opposing and presenting valid arguments against) was totally dismissed because someone decided that it was time to change and the main argument was that it was outdated. This is not about the floppy icon itself or a criticism to who decided to change it. It is about the process. If this is meritocracy then it sucks! A little democracy would go a long way to build a community. Communities don't behave like this. (Disappointed) Regards, Pedro I totally agree with you :-)) about the outdating, should airplanes change all they reference to navy language?? why you go on board of plane? is there any board in airplane?? Pier I suspect that a lot of that is because airplanes have largely replaced ships functionally. If you are crossing the Atlantic today, you will do in on an airplane, not an ocean liner. Although airplanes bank left, not hard to port. Also remember you board a train as well, as an airplane. lol, I'm sure of that too :-) It's nice to know that there is airplanes are coming to rescue us ;-) Kind regards Sophie -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: The Floppy icon and meritocracy
On 02/08/2012 06:17 AM, Pedro wrote: ... In any case I managed to hack the Tango theme and replace the new icons with the old ones (BTW someone forgot to update the saveastemplate icons in the new Theme ;) ) You can't use your old tango theme from 3.4.x because the folder structure has been changed between versions. So, if anyone is interested, it's freely available here http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2347109/images_tango.zip What distrurbs me is that the new LO Tango icons do not follow the standard base Tango theme. As I pointed out in the other thread: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.discuss/7633 The freedesktop.org Icon Theme Specification defines a 'document-save' icon as: document-save The icon for the save action. Should be an arrow pointing down and toward a hard disk. http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-naming-spec/icon-naming-spec-latest.html The new LO Tango theme does not follow this specification, and instead uses a non-Tango icon: a down arrow pointing to an open file cabinet drawer. You'll find that if you/LO actually download and check the 'document-save' icons in: http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Library http://tango.freedesktop.org/releases/tango-icon-theme-0.8.90.tar.gz it is an arrow pointing down and toward a hard disk. Other applications, and the desktop (GNOME), that I use adhere to the base Tango theme. I fail to understand why LO insists on bastardizing the theme and still calling it Tango. Even the LO icon name fails to follow the freedesktop.org naming convention of 'document-save', and instead LO have kept the name used in Ooo: lc_save.png. If you want the floppy, use the default Galaxy theme: Tools|Options|LibreOffice|View|Icon size and style: Glalaxy (default). http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo_galaxy.html -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: The Floppy icon and meritocracy
Hi NoOp NoOp wrote What distrurbs me is that the new LO Tango icons do not follow the standard base Tango theme. As I pointed out in the other thread: lt;http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.discuss/7633gt; Probably because someone hardcoded somewhere a list of the themes allowed. Try renaming any of the zip files and it will no longer show up on the Themes list. That is why the theme I modified is named tango instead of old_tango.zip NoOp wrote Other applications, and the desktop (GNOME), that I use adhere to the base Tango theme. I fail to understand why LO insists on bastardizing the theme and still calling it Tango. Even the LO icon name fails to follow the freedesktop.org naming convention of 'document-save', and instead LO have kept the name used in Ooo: lc_save.png. I thought the idea was to be consistent with the Linux icons. I can see now that it was not. Which even disappoints me more about the process... NoOp wrote If you want the floppy, use the default Galaxy theme: Tools|Options|LibreOffice|View|Icon size and style: Glalaxy (default). lt;http://www.openoffice.org/ui/VisualDesign/OOo_galaxy.htmlgt; I already have the floppy :) and I don't particularly like the Galaxy theme. Thank you anyway for the suggestion! Regards, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/The-Floppy-icon-and-meritocracy-tp3725399p3731131.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] confcall issues gone?
Charles-H. Schulz wrote: It went well for me but Thorsten sounded like he was in a subway ;-) Nah, on a platform with (it felt like) 10 freight trains passing by in 20 Minutes... ;) Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
