[board-discuss] funding for admin weekend
Hello, like last year, the admin team of TDF would like to gather for an internal meeting, in order to discuss and work on important topics, such as virtualiziation, HA/failover, system upgrade and such. Last year, we met in Munich's Café Netzwerk, and this year, we have an offer to stay in the LinuxHotel in Essen (http://www.linuxhotel.de), a very attracting place for geeks. ;-) The total cost for having all the 13 admins in Essen, including sleeping in the hotel, breakfast and having a lecture room + WiFi, would be around 840 € for whole weekend. What do people generally think about that? Does this sound senseful and would the board be willing to approve let's say 1.000 € in total, excluding travel fees? Florian -- Florian Effenberger, Chairman of the Board Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint
Re: [board-discuss] funding for admin weekend
On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 14:34 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote: like last year, the admin team of TDF would like to gather for an internal meeting, in order to discuss and work on important topics, such as virtualiziation, HA/failover, system upgrade and such. Sounds really important. Last year, we met in Munich's Café Netzwerk, and this year, we have an offer to stay in the LinuxHotel in Essen (http://www.linuxhotel.de), a very attracting place for geeks. ;-) Cool. The total cost for having all the 13 admins in Essen, including sleeping in the hotel, breakfast and having a lecture room + WiFi, would be around 840 € for whole weekend. Wow; 840 for 13 of you ? that's amazing - I should move my family there too. What do people generally think about that? Does this sound senseful and would the board be willing to approve let's say 1.000 € in total, excluding travel fees? +1 for a $1k budget - the sysadmins do some fantastic work, and it makes perfect sense to get them together; sounds like a bargin to me [ were you asking for a formal vote ]. ATB, Michael. -- michael.me...@suse.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot
Re: [board-discuss] funding for admin weekend
Florian Effenberger wrote: The total cost for having all the 13 admins in Essen, including sleeping in the hotel, breakfast and having a lecture room + WiFi, would be around 840 € for whole weekend. What do people generally think about that? Does this sound senseful and would the board be willing to approve let's say 1.000 € in total, excluding travel fees? Yes, absolutely. Beyond that, should we fix some travel budget as well? Cheers, -- Thorsten Behrens, Director, Deputy Chairman of the Board The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint pgpFVzyClHPK8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [board-discuss] budget request: audit of TDF contracts by a tax advisor
+1, and thanks for your work on this! Thorsten Behrens wrote on 2012-05-21 17:08: I'd therefore like the board to approve - at this point, a maximum of 1300 EUR - for reviewing TDF contracts by a German tax advisor. -- Florian Effenberger, Chairman of the Board Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint
Re: [board-discuss] funding for admin weekend
Le Mon, 21 May 2012 16:59:18 +0200, Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org a écrit : Florian Effenberger wrote: The total cost for having all the 13 admins in Essen, including sleeping in the hotel, breakfast and having a lecture room + WiFi, would be around 840 € for whole weekend. What do people generally think about that? Does this sound senseful and would the board be willing to approve let's say 1.000 € in total, excluding travel fees? Yes, absolutely. Beyond that, should we fix some travel budget as well? Cheers, Agreed from my side... Best, -- Charles-H. Schulz Co-founder Director, The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint Mobile Number: +33 (0)6 98 65 54 24. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [board-discuss] budget request: audit of TDF contracts by a tax advisor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 +1 from my side. Charles. Le Mon, 21 May 2012 12:34:37 -0300, Olivier Hallot olivier.hal...@documentfoundation.org a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 +1. Important, for sure. Em 21-05-2012 12:08, Thorsten Behrens escreveu: Hi there, for a few contracts, texts and procedures TDF has setup by now, I'd like to have a German tax advisor review them for being in accordance with our charitable status. For the time being, there are two draft contracts I'd like to have audited, and I've got a quote for ~1200 EUR max for that work. I'd therefore like the board to approve - at this point, a maximum of 1300 EUR - for reviewing TDF contracts by a German tax advisor. Regards, - -- Olivier Hallot Founder, Board of Directors Member - The Document Foundation The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Fundação responsável civilmente, de acordo com o direito civil Detalhes Legais: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint LibreOffice translation leader for Brazilian Portuguese +55-21-8822-8812 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPumCNAAoJEJp3R7nH3vLxDL8H/3+lu/StJ58Vzz/pOEbTMwe8 XMAI7BfFTvHC/hptA/qonooNOpXvms1jU5M/Ya3eWnINYOofIRWAwR73x/htV1es ctfn7uaAjKX7m2DAiqoH1FuJJ9cMvoMiJD+Mf34/WgFOvxJYYnQdBEu8EqmrzkFH T1OCFkNCdREHfdJuPjYEYNh4EeMOCzL02pwQUFxWtZuvrFoCP9+VLZgbyRIpY4/8 agc+GTE5PZNxkoIzveW5Mq0x5qdX29jYVMK2SSL82Z5yIS++xk+d5tQo8g22Ovf4 R7Oie+UWF9fWaKIOeQW3vtYFUX/OKRFu9F8V0KMT9F9Kczhvea3+W+TRYMnhJM0= =GnqF -END PGP SIGNATURE- - -- Charles-H. Schulz Co-founder Director, The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint Mobile Number: +33 (0)6 98 65 54 24. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFPumIOoC0xO/kLVsQRAmQlAJ9D+nAjOatYa2ifKP1Mrs5wB1bL/ACeOS/f GsjzIsnHt9GWaQlWX8Aw2p4= =ZzkH -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [board-discuss] budget request: audit of TDF contracts by a tax advisor
On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 17:08 +0200, Thorsten Behrens wrote: for a few contracts, texts and procedures TDF has setup by now, I'd like to have a German tax advisor review them for being in accordance with our charitable status. ... For the time being, there are two draft contracts I'd like to have audited, and I've got a quote for ~1200 EUR max for that work. That is a phenomenal expense. I feel rather unhappy spending this much money without really getting to the bottom of whether it is truly necessary. I'd like to defer this until after the LinuxTag / 3.5.4 release rush to have some more reading time, and until we've discussed this again interactively in view of the sum. So -1 (for now). Thanks, Michael. -- michael.me...@suse.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot
[tdf-discuss] Re: AskLibO blitzes
Marc Paré wrote Would it be a good idea to organize a monthly call for a AskLibO blitz? Obviously it would be better than the current situation :) The main problem with AskLibO is that there are few people answering questions on a regular basis. With few people around there are obviously many areas of LibreOffice that are unknown and therefore unanswered. The second problem is that most people expect to be answered immediately. If the answer doesn't pop-up while the user is still on the site (and they probably don't wait more than 2 minutes...) then even if an answer is provided, the user is already gone. This means that since the person who asked the question most of the times doesn't bother to check for an answer (or forgets to mark any of the answers as correct), then the number of the unanswered questions is almost the same as all questions (685 out of 855 as I write) This means that not only people who make an effort to provide answers don't see any feedback but also makes it harder to find truly unanswered questions... I think this tool has a great potential as a knowledge base but it fails because of the wrong usage by people who ask questions who expect this to behave as some sort of IRC channel... Just my 2 cents ;) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/AskLibO-blitzes-tp3984755p3985023.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: AskLibO blitzes
Terrence Enger wrote I was excited when AskLibo started, only to find that OpenId is required for using it. And the OpenId providers advertised all have impressive terms of use, impressive as in long and daunting. What if BrowserID was added (or replaced OpenID)? -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/AskLibO-blitzes-tp3984755p3985027.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: AskLibO blitzes
Pedro schrieb: The main problem with AskLibO is that there are few people answering questions on a regular basis. Hi, a agree with all your points. The job there is frustrating. Many of the questions are lousy, but that also might be a Help problem. Help should at least ask for some essential info like user's OS, LibO version, localization and application (sometimes it's not clear whether the problem is in a WRITER or CALC table), Help should ask users to file a bug if the question apparently is a Bug report. And a Thank you is the exception. The tool really has great potential, but some more administration will be required to get best benefit for users with questions with acceptable costs. Best Regards Rainer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: AskLibO blitzes
On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 06:52 -0700, Pedro wrote: Terrence Enger wrote I was excited when AskLibo started, only to find that OpenId is required for using it. And the OpenId providers advertised all have impressive terms of use, impressive as in long and daunting. What if BrowserID was added (or replaced OpenID)? The first couple of pages about BrowserID that I found do not suggest that I would have to understand any legalese. That sounds good. Is this easy to implement? I have not heard that anybody else is worried by OpenID, and I cannot realistically expect that my contributions will be worth awfully much. Thanks, Terry. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: AskLibO blitzes
Terrence Enger wrote Is this easy to implement? I have not heard that anybody else is worried by OpenID, and I cannot realistically expect that my contributions will be worth awfully much. I have no idea :) A lot of people are worried by OpenID because they don't trust the companies involved (I use my Gmail login, but I'm not too comfortable with Google owning more information about me... they already know far too much...) The fact that there aren't a lot of people complaining could be related to the fact that you need to register (either to AskLibO or these mailing lists) to complain... which is called a Catch 22 :) IMO any contribution (such as exposing your opinion in a polite way) is a valid contribution ;) Regards, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/AskLibO-blitzes-tp3984755p3985087.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: AskLibO blitzes
Hi Rainer, *, On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Rainer Bielefeld libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de wrote: Pedro schrieb: The main problem with AskLibO is that there are few people answering questions on a regular basis. The job there is frustrating. Many of the questions are lousy, but that also might be a Help problem. Answering that there isn't enough info is of course also a valid answer. And feel free to just close those when there is no further info after a couple of day. And a Thank you is the exception. Well - that I don't consider a problem - unless you also consider votes as a Thank you. The thank you on ask.libreoffice.org is the upvoting of your answer/flagging it as correct. And giving votes is not limited to the person who asked that specific question, but everyone who reads an entry should use their votes accordingly. The tool really has great potential, but some more administration will be required to get best benefit for users with questions with acceptable costs. I don't think it is an administration problem, but rather a problem of educating people about it.. ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [board-discuss] funding for admin weekend
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OK for the meeting expenses. Can we get a report of the achievements? Regards Em 21-05-2012 11:59, Thorsten Behrens escreveu: Florian Effenberger wrote: The total cost for having all the 13 admins in Essen, including sleeping in the hotel, breakfast and having a lecture room + WiFi, would be around 840 € for whole weekend. What do people generally think about that? Does this sound senseful and would the board be willing to approve let's say 1.000 € in total, excluding travel fees? Yes, absolutely. Beyond that, should we fix some travel budget as well? Cheers, - -- Olivier Hallot Founder, Board of Directors Member - The Document Foundation The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Fundação responsável civilmente, de acordo com o direito civil Detalhes Legais: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint LibreOffice translation leader for Brazilian Portuguese +55-21-8822-8812 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPunqJAAoJEJp3R7nH3vLxfQIH/iJS2KiEdcYfXRxlLojLUowP 0ixUs/r05JZRJdgG5nVJtuwE+SWOc86jRX2M5T9MjQNPBtYCCqEvz8vmepziY3i1 MTyuH7OAHIiVY7rofNGbIJT0xhMGTaOpxfdOJOZDVgRXIiDcgjrRK200GHQV495x mSEE2UNamUW0DCsKI28IIQINpAsP2YwSJbChQM3yAzq035p2nZk8zfUmT7FK0p1k WNBow4xqpnJ6r8svEgt4oexdAH/xNIZ31L7Rf9ksOe2Sg+MUIw1zcotSQ1Cw2W+H w1Cs91Di6KbcYIRLcqNwVzVt2PAU70cnrCWE9M/HrhG6cZer651+amRdz0oa+vs= =8+Is -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice for Academic Work -- College/University
On Sunday, May 20, 2012 09:54:21 PM NoOp wrote: On 05/18/2012 03:14 PM, Bruce Byfield wrote: On Friday, May 18, 2012 11:29:33 AM NoOp wrote: On 05/17/2012 03:15 PM, Marc Paré wrote: ... There is a need for a few templates for academic use; a built-in ... You might want to contact/collaborate with Orest Kinasevyc. He wrote several templates for APA Style 5th 6th editions for students: My own academic days are past, so please excuse a suggestion I'm not willing to implement myself. However, I'm sure that more people would use the bibliographical tools if the samples given weren't misleading. Anyone trying to learn from them might easily give up in despair. Perhaps you can explain as to how the samples are misleading? Maybe you can provide a sample(s) of your own. Or be helpful and provide links to other APA templates that meet your approval. My apologies for not being clearer. I wasn't talking about this particular template, but the default examples given in LibreOffice itself. -- Bruce Byfield, Burnaby BC 604-421-7189 (on Pacific time) blog: https://brucebyfield.wordpress.com website: http://members.axion.net/~bbyfield/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice for Academic Work -- College/University
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Bruce Byfield bbyfi...@axion.net wrote: On Sunday, May 20, 2012 09:54:21 PM NoOp wrote: On 05/18/2012 03:14 PM, Bruce Byfield wrote: On Friday, May 18, 2012 11:29:33 AM NoOp wrote: On 05/17/2012 03:15 PM, Marc Paré wrote: ... There is a need for a few templates for academic use; a built-in ... You might want to contact/collaborate with Orest Kinasevyc. He wrote several templates for APA Style 5th 6th editions for students: My own academic days are past, so please excuse a suggestion I'm not willing to implement myself. However, I'm sure that more people would use the bibliographical tools if the samples given weren't misleading. Anyone trying to learn from them might easily give up in despair. Perhaps you can explain as to how the samples are misleading? Maybe you can provide a sample(s) of your own. Or be helpful and provide links to other APA templates that meet your approval. My apologies for not being clearer. I wasn't talking about this particular template, but the default examples given in LibreOffice itself. Can you elaborate on individual files? I think it would be ideal to describe the task, in case someone can take it up. Simos -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice for Academic Work -- College/University
On Monday, May 21, 2012 01:53:04 PM Simos Xenitellis wrote: My apologies for not being clearer. I wasn't talking about this particular template, but the default examples given in LibreOffice itself. Can you elaborate on individual files? I think it would be ideal to describe the task, in case someone can take it up. The examples that the bibliographical database ships with are have nonsense Identifiers like BOR04. The Identifiers should be in the format that appears in the text -- for example, Smith: 1991. Then, just to add to the confusion, the dialog window in which you insert a bibliographical reference into the text refers to the Identifier as the Short name. So does the database summary for a single entry. This confusion has existed ever since the OpenOffice.org code was first released. Since there have been no complaints, I wonder if anyone has ever used the bibliographical database. What's needed is a few samples in a chosen citation style that makes the use of the database obvious. -- Bruce Byfield, Burnaby BC 604-421-7189 (on Pacific time) blog: https://brucebyfield.wordpress.com website: http://members.axion.net/~bbyfield/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice for Academic Work -- College/University
Le 2012-05-21 17:21, Bruce Byfield a écrit : On Monday, May 21, 2012 01:53:04 PM Simos Xenitellis wrote: My apologies for not being clearer. I wasn't talking about this particular template, but the default examples given in LibreOffice itself. Can you elaborate on individual files? I think it would be ideal to describe the task, in case someone can take it up. The examples that the bibliographical database ships with are have nonsense Identifiers like BOR04. The Identifiers should be in the format that appears in the text -- for example, Smith: 1991. Then, just to add to the confusion, the dialog window in which you insert a bibliographical reference into the text refers to the Identifier as the Short name. So does the database summary for a single entry. This confusion has existed ever since the OpenOffice.org code was first released. Since there have been no complaints, I wonder if anyone has ever used the bibliographical database. What's needed is a few samples in a chosen citation style that makes the use of the database obvious. If someone can work this out we could most likely have it changed. Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: AskLibO blitzes
Hi Terry, Le 2012-05-21 10:35, Terrence Enger a écrit : On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 06:52 -0700, Pedro wrote: Terrence Enger wrote I was excited when AskLibo started, only to find that OpenId is required for using it. And the OpenId providers advertised all have impressive terms of use, impressive as in long and daunting. What if BrowserID was added (or replaced OpenID)? The first couple of pages about BrowserID that I found do not suggest that I would have to understand any legalese. That sounds good. Is this easy to implement? I have not heard that anybody else is worried by OpenID, and I cannot realistically expect that my contributions will be worth awfully much. Thanks, Terry. Perhaps the convenience of using OpenID is what makes it better for general use. I don't know if implementing BrowserID along with OpenID is possible (most things are possible). We have also talked about perhaps hosting our own OpenID, then people would be able to register with TDF/LibreOffice and log in with this ID. But this is still an ongoing discussion. As for your statement re: your contributions not being worth awfully much, if people are responding to your posts then you are being listened to. Other LibreOffice members are not on the lists every day and will eventually read your posts. But yes, posts are read and picked up for a response where people can add to the discussion. Your contributions are appreciated. Cheers, Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: AskLibO blitzes
Le 2012-05-21 13:15, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : Hi Rainer, *, On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Rainer Bielefeld libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de wrote: Pedro schrieb: The main problem with AskLibO is that there are few people answering questions on a regular basis. The job there is frustrating. Many of the questions are lousy, but that also might be a Help problem. Answering that there isn't enough info is of course also a valid answer. And feel free to just close those when there is no further info after a couple of day. And a Thank you is the exception. Well - that I don't consider a problem - unless you also consider votes as a Thank you. The thank you on ask.libreoffice.org is the upvoting of your answer/flagging it as correct. And giving votes is not limited to the person who asked that specific question, but everyone who reads an entry should use their votes accordingly. The tool really has great potential, but some more administration will be required to get best benefit for users with questions with acceptable costs. I don't think it is an administration problem, but rather a problem of educating people about it.. ciao Christian +1 I would also add that we are stretching our resource people quite far with all of the implementation going on with the project. We need more hands for the amount of work done. Encouraging membership will help us out a lot more. Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: AskLibO blitzes
Marc Paré wrote Perhaps the convenience of using OpenID is what makes it better for general use. I don't know if implementing BrowserID along with OpenID is possible (most things are possible). We have also talked about perhaps hosting our own OpenID, then people would be able to register with TDF/LibreOffice and log in with this ID. But this is still an ongoing discussion. OpenID is convenient but many Open Source users don't want to open an account with the big sharks to be able to have an universal login. Having to register with TDF/LibreOffice (again!) completely defeats the concept of a universal login. BrowserID seems to be the only company independent universal login. You just need to have an email account. Any email account will do. Regards, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/AskLibO-blitzes-tp3984755p3985175.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice for Academic Work -- College/University
On 05/21/2012 01:18 PM, Bruce Byfield wrote: On Sunday, May 20, 2012 09:54:21 PM NoOp wrote: On 05/18/2012 03:14 PM, Bruce Byfield wrote: On Friday, May 18, 2012 11:29:33 AM NoOp wrote: On 05/17/2012 03:15 PM, Marc Paré wrote: ... There is a need for a few templates for academic use; a built-in ... You might want to contact/collaborate with Orest Kinasevyc. He wrote several templates for APA Style 5th 6th editions for students: My own academic days are past, so please excuse a suggestion I'm not willing to implement myself. However, I'm sure that more people would use the bibliographical tools if the samples given weren't misleading. Anyone trying to learn from them might easily give up in despair. Perhaps you can explain as to how the samples are misleading? Maybe you can provide a sample(s) of your own. Or be helpful and provide links to other APA templates that meet your approval. My apologies for not being clearer. I wasn't talking about this particular template, but the default examples given in LibreOffice itself. Ah. Thanks for the clarification. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: AskLibO blitzes
Hi Pedro Le 2012-05-21 18:16, Pedro a écrit : Marc Paré wrote Perhaps the convenience of using OpenID is what makes it better for general use. I don't know if implementing BrowserID along with OpenID is possible (most things are possible). We have also talked about perhaps hosting our own OpenID, then people would be able to register with TDF/LibreOffice and log in with this ID. But this is still an ongoing discussion. OpenID is convenient but many Open Source users don't want to open an account with the big sharks to be able to have an universal login. Having to register with TDF/LibreOffice (again!) completely defeats the concept of a universal login. BrowserID seems to be the only company independent universal login. You just need to have an email account. Any email account will do. Regards, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/AskLibO-blitzes-tp3984755p3985175.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. OpenID is a foundation and yes, it does provide traffic statistics to its members. In our case TDF/LibreOffice could become a member that dispenses OpenID login/passwords, This would be beneficial from a marketing point of view. Sponsoring members can be found on this page[1]. OpenID is quite up-front with the use of its services which are found here[2]. BrowserID is backed by Mozilla. While BroswerID says that it is a decentralized system of authentication, there is, however, a centralized authority that collects all of the login/passwords -- the Mozilla Group. You may find some of the details and commments on this page[3]. So, in essence, if we are looking for a decentralized form of logging into any of our sites, well, there is none: * BrowserID leaves the Mozilla group as the gatekeepers of our login/password data, however, they say that this is done without collection of data. This is the tenet by which we are to believe and trust. *OpenID is sponsored by many members, does collect demographic information and shares it with groups who carry the OpenID on their site[2 section: Access rich user profiel data]. If TDF/LibreOffice were to become a member member as well as maintain its own OpenID, the LibreOffice could decide what kind of data is collected. It all depends on who you trust as well as the popularity of system. If the TDF/LibreOffice becomes and OpenID provider, then, OpenID user would then put their trust in the TDF/LibreOffice. With BrowserID, we put our trust into the Mozilla Group. Cheers, Marc [1] http://openid.net/foundation/sponsoring-members/ [2] http://openid.net/add-openid/ [3] http://lloyd.io/how-browserid-works -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
