[tdf-discuss] Re: Tango Icon Theme

2014-08-11 Thread Owen Genat
Nigel Verity wrote
 I see that some of the toolbar icons in the Tango style have changed from
 4.2 (for example bold, underline, italic). Is this intentional or will
 they revert back to the familiar icons in due course?

Did the bold icon (for example) change from a light blue capital A to a
black lowercase a? This change appears to have been made back in early 2014:

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=63c7349bb77d34c93aa0b289e11c773c7b42733f

Seems to be permanent as it is still this way in the current v4.4.0.0alpha.
I do not know the UX reasoning behind the change.



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[tdf-discuss] Re: LO Base Enhancements

2014-08-11 Thread Owen Genat
Nigel Verity wrote
 I feel that making Sqlite the default database for LO Base in place of
 HSQLDB would free resources for more development of the front-end.

This is just FYI. SQLite was considered as a HSQLDB replacement and
rejected, mainly for the reason indicated up thread by Terrence Enger i.e.,
dynamic (advisory) data typing. The details can be found in the related bug
reports:

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38811
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50575


Nigel Verity wrote
 I would urge you to take a look at Gambas3 to see how easy it is to
 develop a database application with it.

I thought I read recently (in a forum post?) a suggestion to use Gambas as a
replacement for LO Basic, but cannot find it now. I notice that there is
some recent activity about porting Gambas to MacOS:

http://sourceforge.net/p/gambas/mailman/message/32413651/

It would need to be ported to both MacOS and Windows (currently runs under
Cygwin) to be an effective cross-platform Base application development tool.



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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [tdf-discuss] Intervention

2014-08-11 Thread Owen Genat
jean-christophe manciot wrote
 3) It is not always possible for the bug reporters to hand over their
 original file(s), for many different reasons that are beyond the scope
 of this thread (confidentiality, legal concerns and so on...).

I do not consider these reasons beyond the scope of this thread as most
documents can be effectively redacted using a few simple measures. This is
actually an important discussion. I understand that sometimes redaction is
not an option and in these instances other options are required.


jmadero wrote
 It's up to a user to report with clear steps and a simple test document -
 else it's just a
 waste of our time.

Joel, would it be worth having some step-by-step instructions on a wiki page
somewhere to assist users with the process of redacting their documents?
Usually a simple search / replace regular expression is enough for most
documents. A list of some before / after examples may also be helpful. I
have assisted users with this before on the alternate user forum. It is not
going to help in every instance, but even if it inproved a small percentage
it may be worth it.



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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [tdf-discuss] Intervention

2014-08-11 Thread Joel Madero


On 08/11/2014 05:06 AM, Owen Genat wrote:

jean-christophe manciot wrote

3) It is not always possible for the bug reporters to hand over their
original file(s), for many different reasons that are beyond the scope
of this thread (confidentiality, legal concerns and so on...).

I do not consider these reasons beyond the scope of this thread as most
documents can be effectively redacted using a few simple measures. This is
actually an important discussion. I understand that sometimes redaction is
not an option and in these instances other options are required.


jmadero wrote

It's up to a user to report with clear steps and a simple test document -
else it's just a
waste of our time.

Joel, would it be worth having some step-by-step instructions on a wiki page
somewhere to assist users with the process of redacting their documents?
Usually a simple search / replace regular expression is enough for most
documents. A list of some before / after examples may also be helpful. I
have assisted users with this before on the alternate user forum. It is not
going to help in every instance, but even if it inproved a small percentage
it may be worth it.
For some reason I thought Robinson might have already done this. But if 
not - sure, someone can go ahead and add it to how to report a bug 
wiki. Wiki is open for everyone to fiddle with and this surely would be 
good advice.


Best,
Joel


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