Re: [tdf-discuss] overall communication guidelines and reply-to mangling

2011-11-30 Thread Erich Christian
Am 30.11.2011 14:48, schrieb Thorsten Behrens:
 At any rate, here's the ultimate answer in this whole
 reply-to-munging debate (for who ever is amenable to technical
 argument): 
  http://woozle.org/~neale/papers/reply-to-still-harmful.html

The issue was definitively settled in 2001, and Chip won.

LOL this was a good one  :-)  thx,

cheers
Erich

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-29 Thread Erich Christian
Am 28.10.2010 09:52, schrieb Sveinn í Felli:
 Þann fim 28.okt 2010 07:09, skrifaði Valter Mura:
 In data mercoledì 27 ottobre 2010 21:41:20, Marc Paré ha scritto:
 Anyway, I think also that a request of registration during
 installation is
 acceptable. You can add, optionally, some check boxes to activate for
 mailing
 list subscriptions, eg. user, discuss, announce, and so on, so that
 the user
 who subscribe can receive info and news. This could be an idea, also.

+1

 Maybe such a popup, asking whether one would like to register and/or
 send usage data, should be activated a bit later than right after
 installation ?
 First time users may think it's a bit bullying/alienating having this
 coming up right after installation. If this pops up after some days or a
 certain number of launches, then the users have become a bit accustomed
 to the software and may thus be a bit less overwhelmed by this
 additional information.

+1

regards,
Erich


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Wiki/Language Teams

2010-10-15 Thread Erich Christian
Sorry, wrong list...

Am 15.10.2010 09:26, schrieb Erich Christian:
  Hi *
 
 Hier fehlt noch unser AP, bin aber nicht sicher wen einzutragen...
 André?
 
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Language_Teams
 
 Am besten selber tun   ;-)
 
 Grüße
 Erich


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Survey|Opinion - LibreOffice Install and Update

2010-10-10 Thread Erich Christian
Am 09.10.2010 23:23, schrieb Scott Furry:
 As suggested, this post is intended to get the opinion of the community
 about how best to deliver LibreOffice to its users.

Maybe a new thread for the survey would be helpful to get attention from
those not following the install thread.


[...]
 ---
 
 This survey is to gauge the views of the LibreOffice community on the
 install/update method of LibreOffice. Please voice your opinion so that
 these considerations may be taken into account when the LibreOffice
 method of install/update is studied by the developer team. Please
 *bottom-post* your opinions.

Me and my customers are mainly using Win XP, Vista and 7 so I'm used to
irritation/questions/complaints on the leftovers.

 How do you expect LibreOffice to be updated?

Preferrably by incremental update similar to e.g. Firefox.


 How do you Install/Update LibreOffice?

Installer download and manually removing leftover files, there have been
no updates so far.


 What do you expect when Installing/Updating LibreOffice?

It should NOT overwrite an existing OOo install and just grab the
existing user files as it happened now.

Updates should be incremental, notified and downloaded in the background
but let the user choose when to install.
Necessary files should go to a temp folder and preferably be removed by
the installer after completion.


 Other programs have separate updating programs (iTunes being an
 example), if it was technically feasible, would having a separate
 install program for LibreOffice (with updating features) be useful to you?

Yes, it could replace the extensions updater and offer a choice which
parts of LO should be updated.


 Would having a download and update site, as well as a Unix|Linux package
 repository site, be of value to you?

Certainly yes, a very useful example is
http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/.


 So let's hear what you think folks?

done

Erich


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Godot's official statement

2010-10-05 Thread Erich Christian
Hi,

Am 06.10.2010 01:26, schrieb Andy Brown:
 On Tue Oct 05 2010 15:16:39 GMT-0700 (PDT)  Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
 Andy Brown schrieb:
 If you take it a face value then there is no way that Oracle is going
 to hand over the trademark or anything else to the community that has
 helped build it.  Do they actually think that they did all the work
 to get that 100 million users?  Yet there are some that hold to the
 idea.

 No, they think they *bought* all the work. They have good reasons to
 remain silent. We should accept that, stop thinking about it and go
 ahead.

 I am sure that they have very good reasons, thus my questioning the
 statements that have be credited to Oracle.  As I see it if the
 community does not move on it will fail.
 This in fighting over a name is not helping matters any.  The
 discussion that is going on in some of the OOo list is not helping.

*+1*

Erich
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Libreoffice national domain name registrations

2010-10-02 Thread Erich Christian
Hi,

I registered documentfoundation.at today and set a forwarder to df.org,
doesn't resolve yet but will soon.

Erich

Am 29.09.2010 12:02, schrieb Erich Christian:
 Am 28.09.2010 21:44, schrieb Erich Christian:
 libreoffice.at has been already grabbed
 I've sent him a kind request to set the pointer to the foundation hp,
 we'll see what happens.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] dvd/cd-rom

2010-09-29 Thread Erich Christian
Hi Andy, *

Am 29.09.2010 16:06, schrieb Andy Brown:
 On Wed Sep 29 2010 05:42:27 GMT-0700 (PDT)  Erich Christian wrote:
 Have there been any thoughts about establishing a DVD/CD-rom project?

 I can not speak for others but as a member of the OOo CD-Rom project I
 am ready to provide LO disk as well, when LO is out of Beta.  Until such
 time as Oracle makes up their mind how this will play out I will support
 both LO and OOo.

Good to hear  :-)
There's a different situation in our case, the german dvd/cd-roms use a
complex GUI in xhtml (win disks come with an onboard k-meleon browser
and installation feature via menu) and would need a complete redesign of
CSS and content for 3.3 and we can hardly handle both - so we agreed to
concentrate on LO for now.

We are thinking of a new maybe CMS based structure of the GUI which is
exported on demand on a disk and should be easy to translate and filled
with localized content - useful for all.

Naturally the english version is in place for a prototype and the
content is on your isos already. The new GUI could be very basic with
just necessary text for it could easily be approved even step by step
via CSS.

Once we have localized versions of LO the language teams could manage
their texts and content on paralell versions of the localized GUI and
folder tree online and export a static snapshot-iso on demand.

Looking forward to your comments and a better cooperation ever.

Erich
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Libreoffice national domain name registrations

2010-09-28 Thread Erich Christian
Hi,

Am 28.09.2010 18:29, schrieb Harri Pitkänen:
 In case LibreOffice stays as the official name it would be nice if the 
 national domain names (for example libreoffice.fi) could be registered as 
 soon 
 as possible to avoid having them go to a scammer or other not so friendly 
 entity. 

libreoffice.at has been already grabbed by a guy here I do not know...

regards,
Erich
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Old welcome message after installing LibreOffice

2010-09-28 Thread Erich Christian
Hi,

Am 28.09.2010 22:36, schrieb Jesús Corrius:
 Do you have an old language pack installed?
 No, in my case there was a localized 3.2.1_de installed, which was
 overwritten which I do not appreciate for a beta behaviour.
 Has this been in your sense or is it a bug?
 LibreOffice can use old installed language packs of OpenOffice.org
 previously installed in your system. It happened to me in my testing
 machine, but I don't know if we can call this a bug :)

:-) well...
I assumed there's a difference between a localized version of OOo and a
version which is 'enhanced' with a separate langpack...

What I did not expect at all is the overwriting of a stable OOo install
and grabbing the OOo-user by a LO beta - I'd rather expect they would
install besides each other, creating a new user like the OOoDev versions
did.

Erich
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