[tdf-discuss] OpenOffice.org Product Roadmap: made by whom ? was: Re: [discuss] remove of binfilter module
Hi Sam, Do you have a concrete proposal? yes, I have. First, I do not have any problems with the Apache style of decision making, lazy consensus sounds perfectly reasonable to me. I like that style. This fits perfectly to the meritocracy principle. My understanding is, that this principle is based on * contributing individuals * organizations/institutions contributing developers and/or money for the infrastructure/governance, these organizations contribute because they have derived products or other business around the regarding software. So users are represented in this model by own work power or indirectly by companies. This principle has been proven to work quite well for many open source projects. I think this principle may get enhanced by enabling a non profit organization to have their own resources on a project (This might fit into the Apache philosophy considering this organization as an contributing institution). I think this is necessary because there is already a lot of business happening around OpenOffice, but most of these businesses are just to small or have not the right expertise to execute on the meritocracy principle. So what the OOo project missed most was to have a path to get product feature or tasks done (or just 4th level support) with the help of money offered. So my proposal is continue project decisions the Apache Style but also to find a framework to make product decisions in a manner that also the concerns of Users, local communities, QA, business partners, etc. get honored. This framework also should enable to collect money so that development (committer) resources can be found to get the issues addressed in an equitable process. We already have thousands of feature requests and enhancements in the queue, we are putting a new bunch of requirements on top of it through the current transition to Apache, I think we should seek the power of _all_ OOo communities, users and businesses to achieve significant growth to make OOo a better and successful product. And I did not even included wishes like ODF Viewers, mobile and Cloud services around OOo. My offer is to develop (with all concerned parties) a new charter for all the groups mentioned above (as a successor of the Community Council Charter) and enable the project to have own development resources. The non profit organization Team OpenOffice.org e.V. played in the past just the role of being the cash box of the CC in a quite defensive way (http://download.openoffice.org/contribute.html, will you find the path to donate ??), now Team OOo is preparing to offer a link between business, communities, users and developers to enable growth on the new futile ground we are now moving on. Martin -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Java Support to Stay or Not?
Christian, Your first comment really was a cheap shot and certainly not becoming the professionalism that should exist on this mail-list and the Document Foundation as a whole. I know I might be less apt to ask a question for fear of being ridiculed. Martin. An innocent bystander On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 5:05 AM, Christian Lohmaier lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Marc-André, *, 2011/5/19 Marc-André Laverdière marc-an...@atc.tcs.com: I've read somewhere If you cannot even remember where you read it, that source is not very reliable, is it? that there is discussion on ditching support for Java in LO. Is this true? No, this is not true. There are no plans whatsoever to drop support for java. Is there a decision taken the matter? What is a goal is to reduce the requirement of java for functionality of shipped-by-default stuff. I.e. remove java-requirement for the wizards or fulltext search in help. Just don't believe anything you read at random places in the web. ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[steering-discuss] Invitiation to participate in our study regarding community governance
Dear Sir or Madam I kindly want to invite you to our project's upcoming study on community governance and its impact on the collaboration with other organizations. Given the recent developments between the OpenOffice.org (respectively LibreOffice) community on the one hand and Oracle/Sun on the other hand, it seems that your insight will be most important to our research project. Please let me briefly introduce you to our project and myself. My dissertation is concerned with the opportunities and challenges, which arise from open source development. Based on this, my team and I have launched a project at the Berlin Institute of Technology, which also involves other researchers and students. Just recently we have also launched our website: www.oss-research.info. In this next study of ours we want to explore what are the basic elements of community governance, how a community can be managed and what rules and norms are vital for the collaboration with other organizations. This is a topic, which is pretty much understudied right now and as you will be aware yourself, managers have to learn how to acknowledge community culture. For this reason I ask for your support. We would be glad if you consider to participate in our study by agreeing to an interview (via skype). Of course, all answers will be anonymized from individual attribution, unless you don't want that. And likewise, we offer to give you a full account of our research findings. If you are interested, please contact me at heitm...@strategie.tu-berlin.de Thanks in advance for your support. Best regards Martin Heitmann -- Dipl.-Kfm. Martin Heitmann Wissenschaftlicher Mitarbeiter Technische Universität Berlin Fakultät VII - Wirtschaft und Management Fachgebiet für Strategische Führung und Globales Management Sekretariat H92 Straße des 17. Juni 135 D - 10623 Berlin Tel. +49 - 30 -314 28746 Fax. +49 - 30 -314 26048 Raum: H 9168 Internet: www.strategie.tu-berlin.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] I want to contribute as a translator
Hi, I'm spanish language native and I would like to contribute as a spanish translator. I was translated some chapters of Migration's guide of OOo and another marketing material. I'm interested to know how TDF will manage the user documentation From my point of view ,LibreOffice could be an oportunity to improve OOo experienced in order to get a better office suite application. Regards, Martin -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
