Re: [tdf-discuss] Placement of End notes in a document

2012-03-18 Thread firstname lastname 
You can use the Zotero citing and source management plugin for FireFox and
then
install the Zotero plugin for OpenOffice plugin which works fine for Libre
Office.
Then you can choose all the different citing styles and start working.

I have also got ENDNOTE to work in Libre Office by using their OpenOffice
plugin.

Cheers.
T

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:14 AM, kirnic  wrote:

> I don't see any question that address this question directly.  I am writing
> my Master's degree thesis and I want to put some endnotes in my paper
> according to the Turabian format.  This means that my end notes needs to go
> before I my "Sources Cited" section.  When I enter a foot note for an item
> that I want to explain with an endnote, the default placement in Writer is
> at the end of the document, after the "Sources Cited" section.  To comply
> with my university's requirements and the Turabian format, I need to either
> know how to work around this or have a version of Libre Office where an
> option is allowed to place the endnotes after all the appendices and before
> the bibliography section.  Turabian is the main reference manual for the
> Chicago's style of writing academic papers.
>
> Thanks for your attention to this.
>
> Nick
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Suggestion for Icons

2012-02-16 Thread firstname lastname 
>Changing icons in minor versions is probably not a good idea.
Yeah I agree.

>Changing the floppy Icon has outdated ALL books about
OpenOffice/LibreOffice that have been written, >including textbooks. Such
changes might happen in major versions, always allowing the users to use
the old >theme, but a forced changed disconnects the products from all the
efforts and materials that have been >made to support its distribution...
and in many cases makes it unusable.

EVEN for countries in the third world, relying on textbooks, dead
documents, for a software which is very much alive makes little sense. The
future is here, why not take it and use it at once. Free wiki's are
everywhere. Wikia.com is a great place to start. Relying on textbooks just
won't cut it in 2012.


>In Cambodia, OpenOffice is used in all the school system... considering
changing to LibreOffice with icons >that are different than the ones in the
official textbook is just not possible, it would just create lots of
>confusion for teachers and students, and that is exactly what we do not
need. The system might change to a >new interface when it wants but not
when LibreOffice developers decide to change, it is just not possible >to
print new textbooks.

Yet, I do see your point that you are trying to comply with the legacy of
OpenOffice. We all know how legacy dependency can hurt a software project.
In particular a project where competition is intense and competitors are
using dirty tricks. But okay I won't entertain the idea to ditch break with
this legacy, for now.

But I still believe that the user interface *NEEDS* more work and both
finegrained pixel-hunts as well as moving away from the MS Office-2000
style.

With the best of intentions
-A


On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Javier Sola  wrote:

> Changing icons in minor versions is probably not a good idea.
>
> Changing the floppy Icon has outdated ALL books about
> OpenOffice/LibreOffice that have been written, including textbooks. Such
> changes might happen in major versions, always allowing the users to use
> the old theme, but a forced changed disconnects the products from all the
> efforts and materials that have been made to support its distribution...
> and in many cases makes it unusable.
>
> In Cambodia, OpenOffice is used in all the school system... considering
> changing to LibreOffice with icons that are different than the ones in the
> official textbook is just not possible, it would just create lots of
> confusion for teachers and students, and that is exactly what we do not
> need. The system might change to a new interface when it wants but not
> when LibreOffice developers decide to change, it is just not possible to
> print new textbooks.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Javier
>
>
> On 2/15/12 7:39 PM, firstname lastname wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Guys the icons are one of the key features of Libre Office's interface.
>> Some of the stock icons on the Libre Office default theme need some more
>> work I feel.
>>
>> OPEN - this icon is really grey and dull
>> SAVE - okay, so the floppy is gone. I would have loved to keep it, but I
>> won't get into that.
>> But if you ARE going for a green downwards arrow, it needs to be cleerer
>> than this.
>>
>> DOCUMENT AS EMAIL - This feature is really reduntant and clutters up the
>> user experience.
>>
>> PDF ICON - The export to PDF icon is not clear enough. It needs to say PDF
>> in MASSIVE
>> letters, not some text you can almost not read.
>>
>>
>> These are my comments to the icons in the current interface.
>>
>> But why can't we create an interface that is really inviting to newer
>> users,
>> which does not acommodate to the users with conservative preferences.
>>
>> Pick up any MacOSX application and they are mostly so inviting and "fun"
>> to
>> use.
>> Why can't Libre Office be that? Massively larger icon-toolbars is a start,
>> and shouldn't
>> be very hard to make. I have the pixel-space available for this on my
>> screen. Do you?
>>
>> Best of regards,
>> A
>>
>>
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Error open docs created with LibO 3.3 in LibO 3.5

2012-02-16 Thread firstname lastname 
The script is not a sustainable solution!

Are you guys not seeing the severity of this?

If he has this problem. Sure some bright fella' can write a script which
will solve his problem.
But this problem will and allready has scaled GLOBALLY.


All the best,
A

2012/2/15 Eduardo Moreno 

> Thank's.
>
> I can create a Script to correct apply Wrap in the pictures but, How can I
> know if the user apply or not Wrap?
>
> This a great problem.
>
> El 14/02/12 23:26, Rainer Bielefeld escribió:
>
>  Eduardo Moreno schrieb:
>>
>>  Maybe I did not know state the problem in the report of bugzilla, and
>>> therefore was not consideredimportant. But when you have thousands of
>>> files, it is important.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I doubt that we should reintroduce a bug, but of course its terrible to
>> modify thousands of documents. A solution should help you to "autofix" you
>> documents. May be someone can help you with a script?
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Rainer
>>
>>
>>
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[tdf-discuss] Suggestion for Icons

2012-02-15 Thread firstname lastname 
Hi all

Guys the icons are one of the key features of Libre Office's interface.
Some of the stock icons on the Libre Office default theme need some more
work I feel.

OPEN - this icon is really grey and dull
SAVE - okay, so the floppy is gone. I would have loved to keep it, but I
won't get into that.
But if you ARE going for a green downwards arrow, it needs to be cleerer
than this.

DOCUMENT AS EMAIL - This feature is really reduntant and clutters up the
user experience.

PDF ICON - The export to PDF icon is not clear enough. It needs to say PDF
in MASSIVE
letters, not some text you can almost not read.


These are my comments to the icons in the current interface.

But why can't we create an interface that is really inviting to newer
users,
which does not acommodate to the users with conservative preferences.

Pick up any MacOSX application and they are mostly so inviting and "fun" to
use.
Why can't Libre Office be that? Massively larger icon-toolbars is a start,
and shouldn't
be very hard to make. I have the pixel-space available for this on my
screen. Do you?

Best of regards,
A

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