Re: [steering-discuss] Granting authorization to use the TDF logo for the french local association La Mouette

2011-06-24 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Le Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:50:46 +0200,
Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org a écrit :

 Hi Charles,
 
 Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2011-06-15 19.29:
  The French Association La Mouette, co-organising the LibreOffice
  Conference and representing the french speaking community, is
  drafting a pamphlet / brochure to be handed out to some specific
  audience (CIOs - CTOs of specific sectors) . La Mouette is asking
  us the authorization to use the full TDF/LibreOffice logo (with the
  TDF outline).
 
  I would like to ask the SC to answer positively to this request.
  This does not preclude us, however to start this NGOs committee
  we talked about in 2010 and work with them on collaboration on the
  local level, as this is only one specific question about a brochure.
 
 sorry, been offline for a few days and just catching up on e-mail. Is 
 this request already dealt with or is there feedback required?
 
 Florian
 

It's already been dealt with :-)

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Re: [steering-discuss] Granting authorization to use the TDF logo for the french local association La Mouette

2011-06-16 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Bernhard,


Le Thu, 16 Jun 2011 00:30:49 +0200,
Bernhard Dippold bernh...@familie-dippold.at a écrit :

 Hi Charles, all,
 
 I'm not a SC member, so my opinion should not be understood as voting.
 
 Thorsten Behrens schrieb:
  Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
  The French Association La Mouette, co-organising the LibreOffice
  Conference and representing the french speaking community, is
  drafting a pamphlet / brochure to be handed out to some specific
  audience (CIOs - CTOs of specific sectors) . La Mouette is asking
  us the authorization to use the full TDF/LibreOffice logo (with
  the TDF outline).
 
 La Mouette is the NGO representing the Francophone community.
 
 My question is: Are they part of this community or are they a
 different entity consisting of the same people?


hmm; it's fair to say that they represent the francophone community.
They were the previous OOo french association.

 
 As different entity they should *not* use the official logo dedicated
 to the community and TDF alone.
 
 But if the French community creates a pamphlet that is printed and 
 distributed by La Mouette, they have the right to use the full logo.
 
  I would like to ask the SC to answer positively to this request.
  This does not preclude us, however to start this NGOs committee
  we talked about in 2010 and work with them on collaboration on the
  local level, as this is only one specific question about a
  brochure.
 
  Hi Charles,
 
  if this brochure is positively advertizing TDF/LibreOffice, I see no
  reason not to endorse it with our official logo - I understand it's
  presented as kind of a supportive quote from TDF?
 
 Even if the brochure advertises TDF/LibreOffice in the most positive 
 light, this doesn't mean that we should allow external entities to 
 behave as if they were the community or TDF.
 
 Advertising LibreOffice can be done without any negative impact by
 using the logo without TDF subline.
 
 And for advertising TDF we don't have any rules by now (and no logo 
 different from the LibreOffice logo with subline).
 
 So my take in this question would be:
 
 Have the brochure created by the French community on their list and
 let La Mouette distribute it. In this case the brochure is an
 official resource of the community and therefore allowed to use the
 logo with subline.
 
 Best regards
 
 Bernhard
 
 PS: If La Mouette is set up as part of the community, this topic
 would be much easier, but I don't know if their statutes contain such
 a phrase...
 

I would still grant them the right to use the logo, but as I wrote in
my proposal, other conventions/protocols need to be discussed with the
NGOs. However, given the work they're helping us with, we should grant
them the right to use the logo on the brochure.

best,
Charles.

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Re: [steering-discuss] Granting authorization to use the TDF logo for the french local association La Mouette

2011-06-15 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Hi Charles, all,

I'm not a SC member, so my opinion should not be understood as voting.

Thorsten Behrens schrieb:

Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

The French Association La Mouette, co-organising the LibreOffice
Conference and representing the french speaking community, is drafting
a pamphlet / brochure to be handed out to some specific audience
(CIOs - CTOs of specific sectors) . La Mouette is asking us the
authorization to use the full TDF/LibreOffice logo (with the TDF
outline).


La Mouette is the NGO representing the Francophone community.

My question is: Are they part of this community or are they a different 
entity consisting of the same people?


As different entity they should *not* use the official logo dedicated to 
the community and TDF alone.


But if the French community creates a pamphlet that is printed and 
distributed by La Mouette, they have the right to use the full logo.


I would like to ask the SC to answer positively to this request. This
does not preclude us, however to start this NGOs committee we talked
about in 2010 and work with them on collaboration on the local level,
as this is only one specific question about a brochure.


Hi Charles,

if this brochure is positively advertizing TDF/LibreOffice, I see no
reason not to endorse it with our official logo - I understand it's
presented as kind of a supportive quote from TDF?


Even if the brochure advertises TDF/LibreOffice in the most positive 
light, this doesn't mean that we should allow external entities to 
behave as if they were the community or TDF.


Advertising LibreOffice can be done without any negative impact by using 
the logo without TDF subline.


And for advertising TDF we don't have any rules by now (and no logo 
different from the LibreOffice logo with subline).


So my take in this question would be:

Have the brochure created by the French community on their list and let 
La Mouette distribute it. In this case the brochure is an official 
resource of the community and therefore allowed to use the logo with 
subline.


Best regards

Bernhard

PS: If La Mouette is set up as part of the community, this topic would 
be much easier, but I don't know if their statutes contain such a phrase...


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[steering-discuss] Granting authorization to use the TDF logo for the french local association La Mouette

2011-06-15 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello,

The French Association La Mouette, co-organising the LibreOffice
Conference and representing the french speaking community, is drafting
a pamphlet / brochure to be handed out to some specific audience
(CIOs - CTOs of specific sectors) . La Mouette is asking us the
authorization to use the full TDF/LibreOffice logo (with the TDF
outline).

I would like to ask the SC to answer positively to this request. This
does not preclude us, however to start this NGOs committee we talked
about in 2010 and work with them on collaboration on the local level,
as this is only one specific question about a brochure. 

Best,

-- 
Charles-H. Schulz
Membre du Comité exécutif
The Document Foundation.

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Re: [steering-discuss] Granting authorization to use the TDF logo for the french local association La Mouette

2011-06-15 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
 The French Association La Mouette, co-organising the LibreOffice
 Conference and representing the french speaking community, is drafting
 a pamphlet / brochure to be handed out to some specific audience
 (CIOs - CTOs of specific sectors) . La Mouette is asking us the
 authorization to use the full TDF/LibreOffice logo (with the TDF
 outline).
 
 I would like to ask the SC to answer positively to this request. This
 does not preclude us, however to start this NGOs committee we talked
 about in 2010 and work with them on collaboration on the local level,
 as this is only one specific question about a brochure. 
 
Hi Charles,

if this brochure is positively advertizing TDF/LibreOffice, I see no
reason not to endorse it with our official logo - I understand it's
presented as kind of a supportive quote from TDF?

Cheers,

-- Thorsten

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