Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Update / Update info
Em 24-01-2011 17:18, Charles Marcus escreveu: On 2011-01-24 5:17 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Actually that does already exist, if I'm not misstaken, except it does not do anything with uninstall the old version. But there's an alert on the desktop that notifies the user when there's a new version (same with extensions btw). What is *sorely* needed is an *incremental* updater... http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crazy_Ideas#Features_Enterprises_Will_Love_To_Have_Implemented -- Olivier Hallot Comitê Executivo The Document Foundation Voicing the enterprise needs -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Update / Update info
On 2011-01-24 5:17 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > Actually that does already exist, if I'm not misstaken, except it does > not do anything with uninstall the old version. But there's an alert on > the desktop that notifies the user when there's a new version (same > with extensions btw). What is *sorely* needed is an *incremental* updater... -- Best regards, Charles -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Update / Update info
Jaime R. Garza wrote: Hello all, for when is it planned to have Automatic Update for Windows & Mac LibreOffice, for Linux usually makes no sense? My opinion, the user should be able to decide if it's completely Automatic, or they only get an info pop window, offering a one click update. Cheers! Jaime The important thing as I see it is to have a system where it will only download and update what is needed and not require a complete replacement of the entire program every time there is a minor bug fix or whatever. This is why I never update any of my non-incremental update, applications for anything less than a major upgrade, example, from version 3.0 to version 4.0 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Update / Update info
On 24/01/11 13:14, Jaime R. Garza wrote: > Obviously if I have a stable version installed, I don't expect to be > notified for RCs, but if I have an RC version installed I would expect to be > notified for any new versions. Something akin to Mozilla's release, beta and nightly update channels should prove useful. LibreOffice could certainly learn a few things from Mozilla's approach to automatic updates and/or add-on discovery and installation. -- "The only demand that property recognizes, is its own gluttonous appetite for greater wealth, because wealth means power; the power to subdue, to crush, to exploit, the power to enslave, to outrage, to degrade." -- Emma Goldman, Anarchism & Other Essays (1910) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Update / Update info
Hallo Rene, I meant that the user should be notified and if the user has Admin rights, then they can automatically update, if not, well, then should be prompted that they need Admin rights to do so. But if everything in one step is too much, then I'll suggest: 1st Step: Notification 2nd Step: Automatic Upgrade, downloading the whole new installable and starting it, which should first remove the old version. 3rd Step: Automatic Upgrade, with no need to remove, but only to patch the previous version And of course, for the Linux version, in my opinion it makes no sense, since usually the update is made by the system based on the repositories. At least I use .deb based Distros, which take care of the upgrades for me. Still it would be nice to be notified if there where newer available version which are not provided my my current repository. I'm not a developer, so I have no means to do it my self or even support doing it, but I'm just making suggestions here, I'm not requesting or imposing anything, so I apologize if that seemed different. Schöne Grüsse / Cheers / Saludos Jaime On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 16:28, Rene Engelhard < rene.engelh...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > [ please fix your e-mail quoting ] > > Hi, > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 03:57:54PM +0100, Jaime R. Garza wrote: > > You also need Admin rights to install under Windows, but that's not the > > point. The point is that the user should be notified that there is a new > > version. > > > > If he or she can install it, that's not our problem. > > That's sometihing else tahn what you requested: Let's look at the post > again > > "for when is it planned to have Automatic Update for Windows & Mac > > LibreOffice, for Linux usually makes no sense? > > My opinion, the user should be able to decide if it's completely Automatic, > > or they only get an info pop window, offering a one click update. " > ^^^ > Grüße/Regards, > > René > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org > Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Update / Update info
[ please fix your e-mail quoting ] Hi, On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 03:57:54PM +0100, Jaime R. Garza wrote: > You also need Admin rights to install under Windows, but that's not the > point. The point is that the user should be notified that there is a new > version. > > If he or she can install it, that's not our problem. That's sometihing else tahn what you requested: Let's look at the post again "for when is it planned to have Automatic Update for Windows & Mac LibreOffice, for Linux usually makes no sense? My opinion, the user should be able to decide if it's completely Automatic, or they only get an info pop window, offering a one click update. " ^^^ Grüße/Regards, René -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Update / Update info
Hallo Rene, You also need Admin rights to install under Windows, but that's not the point. The point is that the user should be notified that there is a new version. If he or she can install it, that's not our problem. Schöne Grüsse / Cheers / Saludos Jaime On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:41, Rene Engelhard < rene.engelh...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:57:33AM +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > > I second this as required. I think even Linux but then that will be > > distro specific. > > No. > > You need root for install, you use the office as user (everything else > is broken), you therefore can't ^auto-update because you don't have root > rights. (And asking for them from inside LibO would imho be questionable) > > Grüße/Regards, > > René > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org > Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Update / Update info
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:57:33AM +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > I second this as required. I think even Linux but then that will be > distro specific. No. You need root for install, you use the office as user (everything else is broken), you therefore can't ^auto-update because you don't have root rights. (And asking for them from inside LibO would imho be questionable) Grüße/Regards, René -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Update / Update info
Where does it exist? Which plugin? Someone here could implement it? On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 15:02, wrote: > Hey guys, > > I thought that directly. But i wanted to put the information out there, > the principe and software exists as Plugin and could be easy implemented > on a Ported version. > > > Thanks Charles, > > > > That's exactly my point, specifically, I have to use Windows at work and > > would like to be notified from new versions, at home I have no problem > > since > > my Linux desktop check the repository for new updates. > > > > Obviously if I have a stable version installed, I don't expect to be > > notified for RCs, but if I have an RC version installed I would expect to > > be > > notified for any new versions. > > > > Cheers! > > > > Jaime > > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:41, Charles-H. Schulz < > > charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > > > >> So, we're talking about some discussions that took place during the > >> OpenOffice time, a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away :-) > >> I don't remember why we had chosen not to implement it for betas/RC , > >> there was supposedly a good reason for that but I completely forgot > >> about it. Let me ask anyway. > >> > >> @Mike: apps that notifies users when another software can be updated > >> exist a lot on the mac but here Jaime was mentioning one specific > >> feature of LibreOffice that notifies the user directly and, possibly, > >> updates LibO by itself. > >> > >> best, > >> Charles. > >> > >> Le Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:06:46 +0100, > >> "Jaime R. Garza" a écrit : > >> > >> > I would love to, if I could! Maybe I'll have to learn how to make > >> > extensions and probably make one. > >> > > >> > If it's already implemented for the stable releases, why not add it > >> > to the RCs too, as optional? > >> > > >> > Cheers! > >> > > >> > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:06, Charles-H. Schulz < > >> > charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > >> > > >> > > It does work only for stable releases (unless we dumped that update > >> > > component???) . Anyway, if you have any ideas on the implementation > >> > > of such a feature, you're welcome to upload a patch :-) > >> > > > >> > > Best, > >> > > > >> > > Charles. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Le Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:51:36 +0100, > >> > > "Jaime R. Garza" a écrit : > >> > > > >> > > > I have LibreOffice 3.3.0 rc3 and I was not notified of the rc4. > >> > > > > >> > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:17, Charles-H. Schulz < > >> > > > charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > Hi, > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Actually that does already exist, if I'm not misstaken, except > >> > > > > it does not do anything with uninstall the old version. But > >> > > > > there's an alert on the desktop that notifies the user when > >> > > > > there's a new version (same with extensions btw). > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Best, > >> > > > > Charles. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Le Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:08:58 +0100, > >> > > > > "Jaime R. Garza" a écrit : > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Why not make a simple solution in the meantime? > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Only tell the user there is a new version, and a link to the > >> > > > > > new version. Obviously the installable of the new version > >> > > > > > should be able to automatically de-install the old version. > >> > > > > > That should be actually very easy, don't you think so? > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Cheers! > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:09, Charles-H. Schulz < > >> > > > > > charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Hello Jaime, > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Le Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:49:03 +0100, > >> > > > > > > "Jaime R. Garza" a écrit : > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hello all, > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > for when is it planned to have Automatic Update for > >> > > > > > > > Windows & Mac LibreOffice, for Linux usually makes no > >> > > > > > > > sense? > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > My opinion, the user should be able to decide if it's > >> > > > > > > > completely Automatic, or they only get an info pop window, > >> > > > > > > > offering a one click update. > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Cheers! > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Jaime > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > It would be an excellent idea, and many thought about it, > >> > > > > > > but the question is how feasible it is. I'm sure it is > >> > > > > > > possible but it requires quite a lot of resources, time, > >> > > > > > > etc. So don't expect it in the 3.4... > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > best, > >> > > > > > > Charles. > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > -- > >> > > > > > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > >> > > > > > > discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > >
Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Update / Update info
Hey guys, I thought that directly. But i wanted to put the information out there, the principe and software exists as Plugin and could be easy implemented on a Ported version. > Thanks Charles, > > That's exactly my point, specifically, I have to use Windows at work and > would like to be notified from new versions, at home I have no problem > since > my Linux desktop check the repository for new updates. > > Obviously if I have a stable version installed, I don't expect to be > notified for RCs, but if I have an RC version installed I would expect to > be > notified for any new versions. > > Cheers! > > Jaime > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:41, Charles-H. Schulz < > charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > >> So, we're talking about some discussions that took place during the >> OpenOffice time, a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away :-) >> I don't remember why we had chosen not to implement it for betas/RC , >> there was supposedly a good reason for that but I completely forgot >> about it. Let me ask anyway. >> >> @Mike: apps that notifies users when another software can be updated >> exist a lot on the mac but here Jaime was mentioning one specific >> feature of LibreOffice that notifies the user directly and, possibly, >> updates LibO by itself. >> >> best, >> Charles. >> >> Le Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:06:46 +0100, >> "Jaime R. Garza" a écrit : >> >> > I would love to, if I could! Maybe I'll have to learn how to make >> > extensions and probably make one. >> > >> > If it's already implemented for the stable releases, why not add it >> > to the RCs too, as optional? >> > >> > Cheers! >> > >> > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:06, Charles-H. Schulz < >> > charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: >> > >> > > It does work only for stable releases (unless we dumped that update >> > > component???) . Anyway, if you have any ideas on the implementation >> > > of such a feature, you're welcome to upload a patch :-) >> > > >> > > Best, >> > > >> > > Charles. >> > > >> > > >> > > Le Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:51:36 +0100, >> > > "Jaime R. Garza" a écrit : >> > > >> > > > I have LibreOffice 3.3.0 rc3 and I was not notified of the rc4. >> > > > >> > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:17, Charles-H. Schulz < >> > > > charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > Hi, >> > > > > >> > > > > Actually that does already exist, if I'm not misstaken, except >> > > > > it does not do anything with uninstall the old version. But >> > > > > there's an alert on the desktop that notifies the user when >> > > > > there's a new version (same with extensions btw). >> > > > > >> > > > > Best, >> > > > > Charles. >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Le Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:08:58 +0100, >> > > > > "Jaime R. Garza" a écrit : >> > > > > >> > > > > > Why not make a simple solution in the meantime? >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Only tell the user there is a new version, and a link to the >> > > > > > new version. Obviously the installable of the new version >> > > > > > should be able to automatically de-install the old version. >> > > > > > That should be actually very easy, don't you think so? >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Cheers! >> > > > > > >> > > > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:09, Charles-H. Schulz < >> > > > > > charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Hello Jaime, >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Le Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:49:03 +0100, >> > > > > > > "Jaime R. Garza" a écrit : >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hello all, >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > for when is it planned to have Automatic Update for >> > > > > > > > Windows & Mac LibreOffice, for Linux usually makes no >> > > > > > > > sense? >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > My opinion, the user should be able to decide if it's >> > > > > > > > completely Automatic, or they only get an info pop window, >> > > > > > > > offering a one click update. >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Cheers! >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Jaime >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > It would be an excellent idea, and many thought about it, >> > > > > > > but the question is how feasible it is. I'm sure it is >> > > > > > > possible but it requires quite a lot of resources, time, >> > > > > > > etc. So don't expect it in the 3.4... >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > best, >> > > > > > > Charles. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to >> > > > > > > discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Archive: >> > > > > > > http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** >> > > > > > > All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity >> > > > > > > *** >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > -- >> > > > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to >> > > > > discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >
Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Update / Update info
Thanks Charles, That's exactly my point, specifically, I have to use Windows at work and would like to be notified from new versions, at home I have no problem since my Linux desktop check the repository for new updates. Obviously if I have a stable version installed, I don't expect to be notified for RCs, but if I have an RC version installed I would expect to be notified for any new versions. Cheers! Jaime On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:41, Charles-H. Schulz < charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > So, we're talking about some discussions that took place during the > OpenOffice time, a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away :-) > I don't remember why we had chosen not to implement it for betas/RC , > there was supposedly a good reason for that but I completely forgot > about it. Let me ask anyway. > > @Mike: apps that notifies users when another software can be updated > exist a lot on the mac but here Jaime was mentioning one specific > feature of LibreOffice that notifies the user directly and, possibly, > updates LibO by itself. > > best, > Charles. > > Le Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:06:46 +0100, > "Jaime R. Garza" a écrit : > > > I would love to, if I could! Maybe I'll have to learn how to make > > extensions and probably make one. > > > > If it's already implemented for the stable releases, why not add it > > to the RCs too, as optional? > > > > Cheers! > > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:06, Charles-H. Schulz < > > charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > > > > > It does work only for stable releases (unless we dumped that update > > > component???) . Anyway, if you have any ideas on the implementation > > > of such a feature, you're welcome to upload a patch :-) > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > Charles. > > > > > > > > > Le Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:51:36 +0100, > > > "Jaime R. Garza" a écrit : > > > > > > > I have LibreOffice 3.3.0 rc3 and I was not notified of the rc4. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:17, Charles-H. Schulz < > > > > charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > Actually that does already exist, if I'm not misstaken, except > > > > > it does not do anything with uninstall the old version. But > > > > > there's an alert on the desktop that notifies the user when > > > > > there's a new version (same with extensions btw). > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > Charles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Le Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:08:58 +0100, > > > > > "Jaime R. Garza" a écrit : > > > > > > > > > > > Why not make a simple solution in the meantime? > > > > > > > > > > > > Only tell the user there is a new version, and a link to the > > > > > > new version. Obviously the installable of the new version > > > > > > should be able to automatically de-install the old version. > > > > > > That should be actually very easy, don't you think so? > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:09, Charles-H. Schulz < > > > > > > charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Jaime, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Le Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:49:03 +0100, > > > > > > > "Jaime R. Garza" a écrit : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for when is it planned to have Automatic Update for > > > > > > > > Windows & Mac LibreOffice, for Linux usually makes no > > > > > > > > sense? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My opinion, the user should be able to decide if it's > > > > > > > > completely Automatic, or they only get an info pop window, > > > > > > > > offering a one click update. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaime > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be an excellent idea, and many thought about it, > > > > > > > but the question is how feasible it is. I'm sure it is > > > > > > > possible but it requires quite a lot of resources, time, > > > > > > > etc. So don't expect it in the 3.4... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best, > > > > > > > Charles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > > > > > > > discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archive: > > > > > > > http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** > > > > > > > All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity > > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > > > > > discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ > > > > > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > > > discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org > > > > > > Archive: http://listarchives.documentfou
Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Update / Update info
So, we're talking about some discussions that took place during the OpenOffice time, a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away :-) I don't remember why we had chosen not to implement it for betas/RC , there was supposedly a good reason for that but I completely forgot about it. Let me ask anyway. @Mike: apps that notifies users when another software can be updated exist a lot on the mac but here Jaime was mentioning one specific feature of LibreOffice that notifies the user directly and, possibly, updates LibO by itself. best, Charles. Le Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:06:46 +0100, "Jaime R. Garza" a écrit : > I would love to, if I could! Maybe I'll have to learn how to make > extensions and probably make one. > > If it's already implemented for the stable releases, why not add it > to the RCs too, as optional? > > Cheers! > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:06, Charles-H. Schulz < > charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > > > It does work only for stable releases (unless we dumped that update > > component???) . Anyway, if you have any ideas on the implementation > > of such a feature, you're welcome to upload a patch :-) > > > > Best, > > > > Charles. > > > > > > Le Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:51:36 +0100, > > "Jaime R. Garza" a écrit : > > > > > I have LibreOffice 3.3.0 rc3 and I was not notified of the rc4. > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:17, Charles-H. Schulz < > > > charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Actually that does already exist, if I'm not misstaken, except > > > > it does not do anything with uninstall the old version. But > > > > there's an alert on the desktop that notifies the user when > > > > there's a new version (same with extensions btw). > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > Charles. > > > > > > > > > > > > Le Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:08:58 +0100, > > > > "Jaime R. Garza" a écrit : > > > > > > > > > Why not make a simple solution in the meantime? > > > > > > > > > > Only tell the user there is a new version, and a link to the > > > > > new version. Obviously the installable of the new version > > > > > should be able to automatically de-install the old version. > > > > > That should be actually very easy, don't you think so? > > > > > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:09, Charles-H. Schulz < > > > > > charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Jaime, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Le Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:49:03 +0100, > > > > > > "Jaime R. Garza" a écrit : > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for when is it planned to have Automatic Update for > > > > > > > Windows & Mac LibreOffice, for Linux usually makes no > > > > > > > sense? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My opinion, the user should be able to decide if it's > > > > > > > completely Automatic, or they only get an info pop window, > > > > > > > offering a one click update. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaime > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be an excellent idea, and many thought about it, > > > > > > but the question is how feasible it is. I'm sure it is > > > > > > possible but it requires quite a lot of resources, time, > > > > > > etc. So don't expect it in the 3.4... > > > > > > > > > > > > best, > > > > > > Charles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > > > > > > discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archive: > > > > > > http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** > > > > > > All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity > > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > > > > discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org > > > > > > > > > Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ > > > > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity > > > > *** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > > discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org > > Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ > > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > > > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Update / Update info
For Mac there exists. http://sparkle.andymatuschak.org/ There is even a possibilty to implement a "Beta-Update"-Choice! M > It does work only for stable releases (unless we dumped that update > component???) . Anyway, if you have any ideas on the implementation of > such a feature, you're welcome to upload a patch :-) > > Best, > > Charles. > > > Le Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:51:36 +0100, > "Jaime R. Garza" a écrit : > >> I have LibreOffice 3.3.0 rc3 and I was not notified of the rc4. >> >> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:17, Charles-H. Schulz < >> charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > Actually that does already exist, if I'm not misstaken, except it >> > does not do anything with uninstall the old version. But there's an >> > alert on the desktop that notifies the user when there's a new >> > version (same with extensions btw). >> > >> > Best, >> > Charles. >> > >> > >> > Le Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:08:58 +0100, >> > "Jaime R. Garza" a écrit : >> > >> > > Why not make a simple solution in the meantime? >> > > >> > > Only tell the user there is a new version, and a link to the new >> > > version. Obviously the installable of the new version should be >> > > able to automatically de-install the old version. That should be >> > > actually very easy, don't you think so? >> > > >> > > Cheers! >> > > >> > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:09, Charles-H. Schulz < >> > > charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: >> > > >> > > > Hello Jaime, >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Le Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:49:03 +0100, >> > > > "Jaime R. Garza" a écrit : >> > > > >> > > > > Hello all, >> > > > > >> > > > > for when is it planned to have Automatic Update for Windows & >> > > > > Mac LibreOffice, for Linux usually makes no sense? >> > > > > >> > > > > My opinion, the user should be able to decide if it's >> > > > > completely Automatic, or they only get an info pop window, >> > > > > offering a one click update. >> > > > > >> > > > > Cheers! >> > > > > >> > > > > Jaime >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > It would be an excellent idea, and many thought about it, but >> > > > the question is how feasible it is. I'm sure it is possible but >> > > > it requires quite a lot of resources, time, etc. So don't >> > > > expect it in the 3.4... >> > > > >> > > > best, >> > > > Charles. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to >> > > > discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org >> > >> > > >> > > > Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ >> > > > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity >> > > > *** >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to >> > discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org >> > Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ >> > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** >> > >> > >> > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org > Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Update / Update info
I would love to, if I could! Maybe I'll have to learn how to make extensions and probably make one. If it's already implemented for the stable releases, why not add it to the RCs too, as optional? Cheers! On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:06, Charles-H. Schulz < charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > It does work only for stable releases (unless we dumped that update > component???) . Anyway, if you have any ideas on the implementation of > such a feature, you're welcome to upload a patch :-) > > Best, > > Charles. > > > Le Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:51:36 +0100, > "Jaime R. Garza" a écrit : > > > I have LibreOffice 3.3.0 rc3 and I was not notified of the rc4. > > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:17, Charles-H. Schulz < > > charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Actually that does already exist, if I'm not misstaken, except it > > > does not do anything with uninstall the old version. But there's an > > > alert on the desktop that notifies the user when there's a new > > > version (same with extensions btw). > > > > > > Best, > > > Charles. > > > > > > > > > Le Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:08:58 +0100, > > > "Jaime R. Garza" a écrit : > > > > > > > Why not make a simple solution in the meantime? > > > > > > > > Only tell the user there is a new version, and a link to the new > > > > version. Obviously the installable of the new version should be > > > > able to automatically de-install the old version. That should be > > > > actually very easy, don't you think so? > > > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:09, Charles-H. Schulz < > > > > charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello Jaime, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Le Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:49:03 +0100, > > > > > "Jaime R. Garza" a écrit : > > > > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > > > > > > > for when is it planned to have Automatic Update for Windows & > > > > > > Mac LibreOffice, for Linux usually makes no sense? > > > > > > > > > > > > My opinion, the user should be able to decide if it's > > > > > > completely Automatic, or they only get an info pop window, > > > > > > offering a one click update. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaime > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be an excellent idea, and many thought about it, but > > > > > the question is how feasible it is. I'm sure it is possible but > > > > > it requires quite a lot of resources, time, etc. So don't > > > > > expect it in the 3.4... > > > > > > > > > > best, > > > > > Charles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > > > > > discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ > > > > > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity > > > > > *** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > > > discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org > > > > > > Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ > > > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org > Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Update / Update info
It does work only for stable releases (unless we dumped that update component???) . Anyway, if you have any ideas on the implementation of such a feature, you're welcome to upload a patch :-) Best, Charles. Le Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:51:36 +0100, "Jaime R. Garza" a écrit : > I have LibreOffice 3.3.0 rc3 and I was not notified of the rc4. > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:17, Charles-H. Schulz < > charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Actually that does already exist, if I'm not misstaken, except it > > does not do anything with uninstall the old version. But there's an > > alert on the desktop that notifies the user when there's a new > > version (same with extensions btw). > > > > Best, > > Charles. > > > > > > Le Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:08:58 +0100, > > "Jaime R. Garza" a écrit : > > > > > Why not make a simple solution in the meantime? > > > > > > Only tell the user there is a new version, and a link to the new > > > version. Obviously the installable of the new version should be > > > able to automatically de-install the old version. That should be > > > actually very easy, don't you think so? > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:09, Charles-H. Schulz < > > > charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > > > > > > > Hello Jaime, > > > > > > > > > > > > Le Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:49:03 +0100, > > > > "Jaime R. Garza" a écrit : > > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > > > > > for when is it planned to have Automatic Update for Windows & > > > > > Mac LibreOffice, for Linux usually makes no sense? > > > > > > > > > > My opinion, the user should be able to decide if it's > > > > > completely Automatic, or they only get an info pop window, > > > > > offering a one click update. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > > > > > Jaime > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be an excellent idea, and many thought about it, but > > > > the question is how feasible it is. I'm sure it is possible but > > > > it requires quite a lot of resources, time, etc. So don't > > > > expect it in the 3.4... > > > > > > > > best, > > > > Charles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > > > > discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org > > > > > > > > > Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ > > > > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity > > > > *** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > > discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org > > Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ > > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > > > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Update / Update info
I have LibreOffice 3.3.0 rc3 and I was not notified of the rc4. On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:17, Charles-H. Schulz < charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > Hi, > > Actually that does already exist, if I'm not misstaken, except it does > not do anything with uninstall the old version. But there's an alert on > the desktop that notifies the user when there's a new version (same > with extensions btw). > > Best, > Charles. > > > Le Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:08:58 +0100, > "Jaime R. Garza" a écrit : > > > Why not make a simple solution in the meantime? > > > > Only tell the user there is a new version, and a link to the new > > version. Obviously the installable of the new version should be able > > to automatically de-install the old version. That should be actually > > very easy, don't you think so? > > > > Cheers! > > > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:09, Charles-H. Schulz < > > charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > > > > > Hello Jaime, > > > > > > > > > Le Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:49:03 +0100, > > > "Jaime R. Garza" a écrit : > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > > > for when is it planned to have Automatic Update for Windows & Mac > > > > LibreOffice, for Linux usually makes no sense? > > > > > > > > My opinion, the user should be able to decide if it's completely > > > > Automatic, or they only get an info pop window, offering a one > > > > click update. > > > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > > > Jaime > > > > > > > > > It would be an excellent idea, and many thought about it, but the > > > question is how feasible it is. I'm sure it is possible but it > > > requires quite a lot of resources, time, etc. So don't expect it in > > > the 3.4... > > > > > > best, > > > Charles. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > > > discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org > > > > > > Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ > > > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org > Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Update / Update info
Hi, Actually that does already exist, if I'm not misstaken, except it does not do anything with uninstall the old version. But there's an alert on the desktop that notifies the user when there's a new version (same with extensions btw). Best, Charles. Le Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:08:58 +0100, "Jaime R. Garza" a écrit : > Why not make a simple solution in the meantime? > > Only tell the user there is a new version, and a link to the new > version. Obviously the installable of the new version should be able > to automatically de-install the old version. That should be actually > very easy, don't you think so? > > Cheers! > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:09, Charles-H. Schulz < > charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > > > Hello Jaime, > > > > > > Le Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:49:03 +0100, > > "Jaime R. Garza" a écrit : > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > for when is it planned to have Automatic Update for Windows & Mac > > > LibreOffice, for Linux usually makes no sense? > > > > > > My opinion, the user should be able to decide if it's completely > > > Automatic, or they only get an info pop window, offering a one > > > click update. > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > Jaime > > > > > > It would be an excellent idea, and many thought about it, but the > > question is how feasible it is. I'm sure it is possible but it > > requires quite a lot of resources, time, etc. So don't expect it in > > the 3.4... > > > > best, > > Charles. > > > > > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > > discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org > > Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ > > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > > > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Update / Update info
Why not make a simple solution in the meantime? Only tell the user there is a new version, and a link to the new version. Obviously the installable of the new version should be able to automatically de-install the old version. That should be actually very easy, don't you think so? Cheers! On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:09, Charles-H. Schulz < charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > Hello Jaime, > > > Le Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:49:03 +0100, > "Jaime R. Garza" a écrit : > > > Hello all, > > > > for when is it planned to have Automatic Update for Windows & Mac > > LibreOffice, for Linux usually makes no sense? > > > > My opinion, the user should be able to decide if it's completely > > Automatic, or they only get an info pop window, offering a one click > > update. > > > > Cheers! > > > > Jaime > > > It would be an excellent idea, and many thought about it, but the > question is how feasible it is. I'm sure it is possible but it requires > quite a lot of resources, time, etc. So don't expect it in the 3.4... > > best, > Charles. > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org > Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Update / Update info
Hello Jaime, Le Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:49:03 +0100, "Jaime R. Garza" a écrit : > Hello all, > > for when is it planned to have Automatic Update for Windows & Mac > LibreOffice, for Linux usually makes no sense? > > My opinion, the user should be able to decide if it's completely > Automatic, or they only get an info pop window, offering a one click > update. > > Cheers! > > Jaime It would be an excellent idea, and many thought about it, but the question is how feasible it is. I'm sure it is possible but it requires quite a lot of resources, time, etc. So don't expect it in the 3.4... best, Charles. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Update / Update info
On 01/24/2011 10:49 AM, Jaime R. Garza wrote: Hello all, for when is it planned to have Automatic Update for Windows& Mac LibreOffice, for Linux usually makes no sense? My opinion, the user should be able to decide if it's completely Automatic, or they only get an info pop window, offering a one click update. Cheers! Jaime I second this as required. I think even Linux but then that will be distro specific. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Automatic Update / Update info
Hello all, for when is it planned to have Automatic Update for Windows & Mac LibreOffice, for Linux usually makes no sense? My opinion, the user should be able to decide if it's completely Automatic, or they only get an info pop window, offering a one click update. Cheers! Jaime -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
