Re: [tdf-discuss] German Foreign Office is dropping only open source software policy
Also the guidance was poor and the apps did not get updated for years. So the endusers in the diplomatic services got displeased more and more, but the responsible persons in the administration choose the wrong way out. This is the short version, you can read a bit more at the H : http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/German-Foreign-Office-explains-open-source-elimination-1241804.html All this really highlights is the danger of government lock-in to single commercial interests. The snag with an all-encompassing monopoly is that if it goes wrong and it's the established way, people will say oh that is just the way it is with technology. If it goes wrong after a change from the established system they say We need the established system. National education systems should be teaching the underlying principles of technology and it's commercial ramifications, particularly at government level. Changing technology is easy, changing people and their attitudes is not. -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications The Schools ITQ www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 You have received this email from the following company: The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] German Foreign Office is dropping only open source software policy
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/227849/open_source_advocates_angry_at_german_govt_decision.html This isn't even about OpenOffice vs LibreOffice... It's about Closed Source vs Open Source TBH I think it was a bad move to change radically if you have experienced and productive users trained on whatever program (regardless of the license). Also, if you need professional support you can't just move to Open Source, let alone a Linux distro that was still being developed... Could it be that it took them 6 years to realize that? -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/German-Foreign-Office-is-dropping-only-open-source-software-policy-tp2935716p2935716.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] German Foreign Office is dropping only open source software policy
On 13/05/11 20:02, plino wrote: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/227849/open_source_advocates_angry_at_german_govt_decision.html This isn't even about OpenOffice vs LibreOffice... It's about Closed Source vs Open Source TBH I think it was a bad move to change radically if you have experienced and productive users trained on whatever program (regardless of the license). Also, if you need professional support you can't just move to Open Source, let alone a Linux distro that was still being developed... Could it be that it took them 6 years to realize that? -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/German-Foreign-Office-is-dropping-only-open-source-software-policy-tp2935716p2935716.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. A bit offtopic of course, but what a waste! Suse have been there all the time and I'm pretty sure Redhat have a regional office serving Germany. So I think this cooks down to mismanagement above everything else... -Olav -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] German Foreign Office is dropping only open source software policy
Hi, 2011/5/13 plino pedl...@gmail.com: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/227849/open_source_advocates_angry_at_german_govt_decision.html This isn't even about OpenOffice vs LibreOffice... It's about Closed Source vs Open Source TBH I think it was a bad move to change radically if you have experienced and productive users trained on whatever program (regardless of the license). Also, if you need professional support you can't just move to Open Source, let alone a Linux distro that was still being developed... Could it be that it took them 6 years to realize that? There were much articles about this in the german press these days and the government has to answer some questions which had been asked from the opposition in parliament. The main problem was that the OpenSource strategy was half-hearted as the end-user had to work with dual-boot systems, some applications on Windows, some on Linux. Also the guidance was poor and the apps did not get updated for years. So the endusers in the diplomatic services got displeased more and more, but the responsible persons in the administration choose the wrong way out. This is the short version, you can read a bit more at the H : http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/German-Foreign-Office-explains-open-source-elimination-1241804.html Bye Volker -- ++ Volker Merschmann - Member of The Document Foundation - http://documentfoundation.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] German Foreign Office is dropping only open source software policy
Hi plino, *, plino schrieb: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/227849/open_source_advocates_angry_at_german_govt_decision.html This isn't even about OpenOffice vs LibreOffice... It's about Closed Source vs Open Source right.. TBH I think it was a bad move to change radically if you have experienced and productive users trained on whatever program (regardless of the license). agreed - but I think this wasn't the real reason. Also, if you need professional support you can't just move to Open Source, let alone a Linux distro that was still being developed... I think this can't been estimated without viewing on the political situation. Two Years ago FDP's Guido Westerwelle became boss of the foreign office. The FDP (Free Domocratic Party) is known to serve a special clientele. So shortly after the elections the sales tax for hoteliers was lowered on the food products level (7% instead of 19%). Could it be that it took them 6 years to realize that? No, it was two years to schedule the change after the change. For me no question, who was the gostwriter of the reasoning - there is a big company we know that kind of arguing from.. Gruß/regards -- Friedrich Libreoffice-Box http://libreofficebox.org/ LibreOffice and more on CD/DVD images -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted