Re: [tdf-discuss] LO & OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android & iOS

[Laurence Jeloudev]

If LO didn't have any bugs and it worked very well compared to the
free version of a bugged OO that had many problems then people would
choose to buy LO because obviously they see the benefits of using a
free version on there desktop of LO that doesn't have many bugs that
are as bad as OO so they would buy the mobile version assuming it
would be the same.

It's as long as the product works and is easy to use.
Sent from my iPhone

On 09/04/2011, at 4:01 PM, Jonathan Aquilina  wrote:

> Agreed but the problem is if lets say OOo have the rather buggy writer 
> available and its free. which do you think people would prefer to go with?
>
> On 09/04/2011 00:35, Laurence Jeloudev wrote:
>> Even if you had to pay for the apps it would help gain revenue for LO
>> in the mobile market especially for iOS.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 09/04/2011, at 5:17 AM, Ian Lynch  wrote:
>>
>>> On 8 April 2011 19:06, Jaime R. Garza  wrote:
>>>
 For Android and iPhone it doesn't make sense to have the whole LO, only
 Clac, Writer&  Impress are needed urgently!

>>> Probably only Writer and Calc and an Impress viewer in the first instance.
>>> Snag is Uno. Replacing Uno with a web common platform would be one way to do
>>> it but it would mean you had to have web access to use the apps.
>>>
>>> If LO manages to place those three apps for Android, ODF will gain momentum.
 Cheers!


 On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 21:01, todd rme  wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 2:12 AM, Jonathan Aquilina
>   wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:36 AM, toki  wrote:
>>> On 06/04/2011 14:43, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
 How much of LO would need to be ported since android is linux based
 as
>>> is?
>>>
>>> Basically, it needs to be rewritten in a language that can be compiled
>>> into Dalvik Bytecode.
>>>
>>> The usual language is Java, but at least one C++ compiler that
>>> accomplishes the same effect exists.
>> If one c++ compiler already exists then wouldnt it be easy as just
> telling
>> the compiler to compile?
> Almost certainly not, it most likely needs to be able to support the
> proper Android APIs to work properly.  And that is only to get it
> working as-is, without any reworking of the UI to be better on a
> touch-based device.
>
> -Todd
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Re: [tdf-discuss] LO & OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android & iOS

[Jonathan Aquilina]

Agreed but the problem is if lets say OOo have the rather buggy writer 
available and its free. which do you think people would prefer to go with?


On 09/04/2011 00:35, Laurence Jeloudev wrote:

Even if you had to pay for the apps it would help gain revenue for LO
in the mobile market especially for iOS.

Sent from my iPhone

On 09/04/2011, at 5:17 AM, Ian Lynch  wrote:


On 8 April 2011 19:06, Jaime R. Garza  wrote:


For Android and iPhone it doesn't make sense to have the whole LO, only
Clac, Writer&  Impress are needed urgently!


Probably only Writer and Calc and an Impress viewer in the first instance.
Snag is Uno. Replacing Uno with a web common platform would be one way to do
it but it would mean you had to have web access to use the apps.

If LO manages to place those three apps for Android, ODF will gain momentum.

Cheers!


On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 21:01, todd rme  wrote:


On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 2:12 AM, Jonathan Aquilina
  wrote:

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:36 AM, toki  wrote:

On 06/04/2011 14:43, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:

How much of LO would need to be ported since android is linux based

as

is?

Basically, it needs to be rewritten in a language that can be compiled
into Dalvik Bytecode.

The usual language is Java, but at least one C++ compiler that
accomplishes the same effect exists.

If one c++ compiler already exists then wouldnt it be easy as just

telling

the compiler to compile?

Almost certainly not, it most likely needs to be able to support the
proper Android APIs to work properly.  And that is only to get it
working as-is, without any reworking of the UI to be better on a
touch-based device.

-Todd

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Re: [tdf-discuss] LO & OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android & iOS

[Laurence Jeloudev]

Even if you had to pay for the apps it would help gain revenue for LO
in the mobile market especially for iOS.

Sent from my iPhone

On 09/04/2011, at 5:17 AM, Ian Lynch  wrote:

> On 8 April 2011 19:06, Jaime R. Garza  wrote:
>
>> For Android and iPhone it doesn't make sense to have the whole LO, only
>> Clac, Writer & Impress are needed urgently!
>>
>
> Probably only Writer and Calc and an Impress viewer in the first instance.
> Snag is Uno. Replacing Uno with a web common platform would be one way to do
> it but it would mean you had to have web access to use the apps.
>
> If LO manages to place those three apps for Android, ODF will gain momentum.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 21:01, todd rme  wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 2:12 AM, Jonathan Aquilina
>>>  wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:36 AM, toki  wrote:
>
> On 06/04/2011 14:43, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
>> How much of LO would need to be ported since android is linux based
>> as
> is?
>
> Basically, it needs to be rewritten in a language that can be compiled
> into Dalvik Bytecode.
>
> The usual language is Java, but at least one C++ compiler that
> accomplishes the same effect exists.

 If one c++ compiler already exists then wouldnt it be easy as just
>>> telling
 the compiler to compile?
>>>
>>> Almost certainly not, it most likely needs to be able to support the
>>> proper Android APIs to work properly.  And that is only to get it
>>> working as-is, without any reworking of the UI to be better on a
>>> touch-based device.
>>>
>>> -Todd
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Re: [tdf-discuss] LO & OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android & iOS

[Ian Lynch]

On 8 April 2011 19:06, Jaime R. Garza  wrote:

> For Android and iPhone it doesn't make sense to have the whole LO, only
> Clac, Writer & Impress are needed urgently!
>

Probably only Writer and Calc and an Impress viewer in the first instance.
Snag is Uno. Replacing Uno with a web common platform would be one way to do
it but it would mean you had to have web access to use the apps.

If LO manages to place those three apps for Android, ODF will gain momentum.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 21:01, todd rme  wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 2:12 AM, Jonathan Aquilina
> >  wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:36 AM, toki  wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 06/04/2011 14:43, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
> > >> > How much of LO would need to be ported since android is linux based
> as
> > >> is?
> > >>
> > >> Basically, it needs to be rewritten in a language that can be compiled
> > >> into Dalvik Bytecode.
> > >>
> > >> The usual language is Java, but at least one C++ compiler that
> > >> accomplishes the same effect exists.
> > >
> > > If one c++ compiler already exists then wouldnt it be easy as just
> > telling
> > > the compiler to compile?
> >
> > Almost certainly not, it most likely needs to be able to support the
> > proper Android APIs to work properly.  And that is only to get it
> > working as-is, without any reworking of the UI to be better on a
> > touch-based device.
> >
> > -Todd
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Re: [tdf-discuss] LO & OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android & iOS

[toki]

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On 08/04/2011 18:19, Jaime R. Garza wrote:
> http://tomtasche.at/p/OpenOffice%20Document%20Reader#article

That program has not opened any of my ODT documents.

Reading the marketplace comments, it looks like it can only open
documents that are extremely small.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] LO & OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android & iOS

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On 08/04/2011 18:06, Jaime R. Garza wrote:
> For Android and iPhone it doesn't make sense to have the whole LO, only
> Calc, Writer & Impress are needed urgently!

Impress requires Draw.

Which means that the only components you would toss out would be the
database component, and the Math Formula component.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] LO & OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android & iOS

[Jaime R. Garza]

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 20:09, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:

> I just got my hands on the HTC desire us with android and as I was perusing
> through the marketplace, I noticed open office writer available could we
> fork that code and then merge any changes we have?


Do you mean this one:
http://tomtasche.at/p/OpenOffice%20Document%20Reader#article

It's just a
Reader! But it's a good start, ;-)

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Re: [tdf-discuss] LO & OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android & iOS

[Jonathan Aquilina]

I just got my hands on the HTC desire us with android and as I was perusing
through the marketplace, I noticed open office writer available could we
fork that code and then merge any changes we have?
 On 8 Apr 2011 20:06, "Jaime R. Garza"  wrote:
> For Android and iPhone it doesn't make sense to have the whole LO, only
> Clac, Writer & Impress are needed urgently!
>
> If LO manages to place those three apps for Android, ODF will gain
momentum.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 21:01, todd rme  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 2:12 AM, Jonathan Aquilina
>>  wrote:
>> > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:36 AM, toki  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 06/04/2011 14:43, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
>> >> > How much of LO would need to be ported since android is linux based
as
>> >> is?
>> >>
>> >> Basically, it needs to be rewritten in a language that can be compiled
>> >> into Dalvik Bytecode.
>> >>
>> >> The usual language is Java, but at least one C++ compiler that
>> >> accomplishes the same effect exists.
>> >
>> > If one c++ compiler already exists then wouldnt it be easy as just
>> telling
>> > the compiler to compile?
>>
>> Almost certainly not, it most likely needs to be able to support the
>> proper Android APIs to work properly. And that is only to get it
>> working as-is, without any reworking of the UI to be better on a
>> touch-based device.
>>
>> -Todd
>>
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Re: [tdf-discuss] LO & OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android & iOS

[Jaime R. Garza]

For Android and iPhone it doesn't make sense to have the whole LO, only
Clac, Writer & Impress are needed urgently!

If LO manages to place those three apps for Android, ODF will gain momentum.

Cheers!


On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 21:01, todd rme  wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 2:12 AM, Jonathan Aquilina
>  wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:36 AM, toki  wrote:
> >>
> >> On 06/04/2011 14:43, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
> >> > How much of LO would need to be ported since android is linux based as
> >> is?
> >>
> >> Basically, it needs to be rewritten in a language that can be compiled
> >> into Dalvik Bytecode.
> >>
> >> The usual language is Java, but at least one C++ compiler that
> >> accomplishes the same effect exists.
> >
> > If one c++ compiler already exists then wouldnt it be easy as just
> telling
> > the compiler to compile?
>
> Almost certainly not, it most likely needs to be able to support the
> proper Android APIs to work properly.  And that is only to get it
> working as-is, without any reworking of the UI to be better on a
> touch-based device.
>
> -Todd
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Re: [tdf-discuss] LO & OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android & iOS

[todd rme]

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 2:12 AM, Jonathan Aquilina
 wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:36 AM, toki  wrote:
>>
>> On 06/04/2011 14:43, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
>> > How much of LO would need to be ported since android is linux based as
>> is?
>>
>> Basically, it needs to be rewritten in a language that can be compiled
>> into Dalvik Bytecode.
>>
>> The usual language is Java, but at least one C++ compiler that
>> accomplishes the same effect exists.
>
> If one c++ compiler already exists then wouldnt it be easy as just telling
> the compiler to compile?

Almost certainly not, it most likely needs to be able to support the
proper Android APIs to work properly.  And that is only to get it
working as-is, without any reworking of the UI to be better on a
touch-based device.

-Todd

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Re: [tdf-discuss] LO & OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android & iOS

[Jonathan Aquilina]

If one c++ compiler already exists then wouldnt it be easy as just telling
the compiler to compile?

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>
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> into Dalvik Bytecode.
>
> The usual language is Java, but at least one C++ compiler that
> accomplishes the same effect exists.
>
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Re: [tdf-discuss] LO & OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android & iOS

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On 06/04/2011 14:43, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
> How much of LO would need to be ported since android is linux based as is?

Basically, it needs to be rewritten in a language that can be compiled
into Dalvik Bytecode.

The usual language is Java, but at least one C++ compiler that
accomplishes the same effect exists.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] LO & OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android & iOS

[Jonathan Aquilina]

How much of LO would need to be ported since android is linux based as is?

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>
> I'll believe that _after_ the next version is released.
>
> With ThinkFree, their claims and the actuality are, in my experience,
> discongruent with each other.
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Re: [tdf-discuss] LO & OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android & iOS

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On 06/04/2011 10:59, Jaime R. Garza wrote:
> I have a statement from Thinkfree, that they will support ODF in the next
> version.

I'll believe that _after_ the next version is released.

With ThinkFree, their claims and the actuality are, in my experience,
discongruent with each other.

jonathon
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Re: [tdf-discuss] LO & OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android & iOS

[Jaime R. Garza]

I have a statement from Thinkfree, that they will support ODF in the next
version.

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:35, toki  wrote:

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> > When pointing out competitors, there are a lot more I think.
> > One I would add to the list is
> >
> > Softmaker Office (http://www.softmaker.com)
>
> Looking at the app marketplace for my Android device.
>
> * Documents To Go;
> * OfficeSuite Pro;
> * QuickOffice Pro;
> * ThinkFree Office Mobile;
> * OliveOffice Premium;
> * AndroOffice:  Claims to edit ODF Spreadsheets:  This is a spreadsheet
> only application;
> * 8x8 Virtual Office:  Office Suite in their cloud;
> * CloudDesk: Office suite in their cloud;
> * E-Cell xls Pro: Spreadsheet only;
> * Picsel Smart Office;
> * Netfront Life Documents;
> * Spreadsheet:  Spreadsheet only;
> * Simple Spreadsheet:  Spreadsheet only;
> * K2 Document Viewer:  Does not edit documents;
> * VPC: Office Chrome;
>
> Unless otherwise stated, those programs do not support ODF files.
>
> jonathon
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Re: [tdf-discuss] LO & OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android & iOS

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On 03/04/2011 22:11, Denny wrote:

> When pointing out competitors, there are a lot more I think.
> One I would add to the list is
> 
> Softmaker Office (http://www.softmaker.com)

Looking at the app marketplace for my Android device.

* Documents To Go;
* OfficeSuite Pro;
* QuickOffice Pro;
* ThinkFree Office Mobile;
* OliveOffice Premium;
* AndroOffice:  Claims to edit ODF Spreadsheets:  This is a spreadsheet
only application;
* 8x8 Virtual Office:  Office Suite in their cloud;
* CloudDesk: Office suite in their cloud;
* E-Cell xls Pro: Spreadsheet only;
* Picsel Smart Office;
* Netfront Life Documents;
* Spreadsheet:  Spreadsheet only;
* Simple Spreadsheet:  Spreadsheet only;
* K2 Document Viewer:  Does not edit documents;
* VPC: Office Chrome;

Unless otherwise stated, those programs do not support ODF files.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] LO & OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android & iOS

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On 05/04/2011 00:05, MiguelAngel wrote:

> to waste the efforts to get Libo or OOo runing in Android or similar, and use 
> in a four-six inches windows, for to do what?

My little android device has more RAM, more file storage space, a faster
chip, and a larger screen than the original Kaypro has.

I do have an app on my little Android device that can open ODF
spreadsheets, but not ODF text documents.

If I didn't have so many other projects, I'd be spending time porting
most of the software I use on my *Nix box to Android.  As it is, I have
to make time porting at least two of those *Nix applications to Android.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] LO & OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android & iOS

[MiguelAngel]

For me, there is no sense in the discussion, in a couple of years or
less, the new phones will have the power to run any OS, like Linux or
Windows, surely they can now.
It's the better way, to waste the efforts to get Libo or OOo runing in
Android or similar, and use in a four-six inches windows, for to do what?
I'm an intensive user of Libo (Calc-Write-Base) and I never use s my
HTHD2 4.2' with Ms mobile office to work.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] LO & OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android & iOS

[Denny]

When pointing out competitors, there are a lot more I think.
One I would add to the list is

Softmaker Office (http://www.softmaker.com)

Denny

Am Donnerstag, 31. März 2011, 15:39:17 schrieb Jaime R. Garza:
> Dear all,
> 
> I have read that some of you believe there are no other true competitors to
> MSOffice, but LO & OO.
> 
> There is a simple Office Suite (simple because it only has spreadsheet,
> wordprocessor and presentations) but is becoming very popular, specially in
> the enterprise, since it runs everywhere, including iOS (iPhones & iPads)
> and Android phones and tablets.
> 
> The name of this Office Suite is: Thinkfree 
> 
> It would be great if there was a simple version of LO with only these three
> apps and that would run under Android & iOS.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Jaime R. Garza


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Re: [tdf-discuss] LO & OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android & iOS

[Jaime R. Garza]

On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 15:54, Charles-H. Schulz <
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:

> Hello Jaime,
>
> Le Sun, 3 Apr 2011 12:16:48 +0200,
> "Jaime R. Garza"  a écrit :
>
>
> If you work for such a large corporation/entity, then perhaps your
> employer would be interested in funding the initiative of porting
> LibreOffice to mobile platform(s), or even send in some developers.
> Otherwise we will have to do this on our own timing and resources I'm
> afraid.
>
> Best,
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> The Document Foundation.
>
>
Saddly they are not willing to wait, they want something that's already
there now and working. So that's why it seem that they will go with
Thinkfree for now. Because it has a great intercompatibility with MSOffice
2003 formats and it runns on everything, even Android & iPads. The license
costs of Thinkfree are extremely low in comparison with MSOffice.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] LO & OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android & iOS

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello Jaime,

Le Sun, 3 Apr 2011 12:16:48 +0200,
"Jaime R. Garza"  a écrit :

> On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 11:53, Valter Mura 
> wrote:
> 
> > In data giovedì 31 marzo 2011 17:32:45, Jaime R. Garza ha scritto:
> >
> > Please, don't top quote.
> >
> > This said, are any of you involved in business? If so, maybe you
> > use a Blackberry phone.
> >
> > So let's start to think to create *also* a light version for
> > Blackberry OS.
> >
> > Enterprises would also accept to pay a little fee for it, helping
> > its development and the foundation, I suppose.
> >
> > Ciao
> > --
> > Valter
> > Registered Linux User #466410  http://counter.li.org
> > Kubuntu Linux: www.kubuntu.org
> > LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org
> > OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org
> >
> >
> 
> About the top quote, it this how it's supposed to be? Isn't it better
> the other way? At least for me it is.
> 
> About being involved in a business, yes I am, I work for a large
> company (around 400,000 employees).
> 
> About the Blackberry, I really think is more important to see into the
> future, where Android & iPhone will dominate, even in the Business.
> And please don't forget that even RIM (makers of Blackberry) has
> decided to produce compatibility to Android apps.
> 
> We are are analyzing which Office Suite to use for non-Windows
> devices, and probably Thinkfree is going to win, since there is no
> other real contender.
> 


If you work for such a large corporation/entity, then perhaps your
employer would be interested in funding the initiative of porting
LibreOffice to mobile platform(s), or even send in some developers.
Otherwise we will have to do this on our own timing and resources I'm
afraid.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] LO & OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android & iOS

[Jaime R. Garza]

On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 11:53, Valter Mura  wrote:

> In data giovedì 31 marzo 2011 17:32:45, Jaime R. Garza ha scritto:
>
> Please, don't top quote.
>
> This said, are any of you involved in business? If so, maybe you use a
> Blackberry phone.
>
> So let's start to think to create *also* a light version for Blackberry OS.
>
> Enterprises would also accept to pay a little fee for it, helping its
> development and the foundation, I suppose.
>
> Ciao
> --
> Valter
> Registered Linux User #466410  http://counter.li.org
> Kubuntu Linux: www.kubuntu.org
> LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org
> OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org
>
>

About the top quote, it this how it's supposed to be? Isn't it better the
other way? At least for me it is.

About being involved in a business, yes I am, I work for a large company
(around 400,000 employees).

About the Blackberry, I really think is more important to see into the
future, where Android & iPhone will dominate, even in the Business. And
please don't forget that even RIM (makers of Blackberry) has decided to
produce compatibility to Android apps.

We are are analyzing which Office Suite to use for non-Windows devices, and
probably Thinkfree is going to win, since there is no other real contender.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] LO & OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android & iOS

[Valter Mura]

In data giovedì 31 marzo 2011 17:32:45, Jaime R. Garza ha scritto:

> Hello Stefan ,
> 
> "disadvise"?
> 
> It's not about advise or not, is about platform-independence!
> 
> Thinkfree has great compatibility with MS formats (still the
> defacto-standards) and runs in all platforms including Android and iOS.
> 
> The advise here is that LO developers should try to focus on making those
> three 3 apps available as soon as possible for Android & iOS.
> 
> (1) They plan to support ODF on the next version.
> 
> (2) Yes, exactly as MSOffice
> 

Please, don't top quote.

This said, are any of you involved in business? If so, maybe you use a 
Blackberry phone.

So let's start to think to create *also* a light version for Blackberry OS. 

Enterprises would also accept to pay a little fee for it, helping its 
development and the foundation, I suppose.

Ciao
-- 
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Kubuntu Linux: www.kubuntu.org
LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org
OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org

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Re: [tdf-discuss] LO & OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android & iOS

[Ian Lynch]

On 31 March 2011 14:39, Jaime R. Garza  wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I have read that some of you believe there are no other true competitors to
> MSOffice, but LO & OO.
>
> There is a simple Office Suite (simple because it only has spreadsheet,
> wordprocessor and presentations) but is becoming very popular, specially in
> the enterprise, since it runs everywhere, including iOS (iPhones & iPads)
> and Android phones and tablets.
>
> The name of this Office Suite is: Thinkfree 
>

This is the Office software on my Android phone but I'd be much more likely
to use Google Docs on my phone.

>
> It would be great if there was a simple version of LO with only these three
> apps and that would run under Android & iOS.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Jaime R. Garza
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Re: [tdf-discuss] LO & OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android & iOS

[todd rme]

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Jaime R. Garza  wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I have read that some of you believe there are no other true competitors to
> MSOffice, but LO & OO.
>
> There is a simple Office Suite (simple because it only has spreadsheet,
> wordprocessor and presentations) but is becoming very popular, specially in
> the enterprise, since it runs everywhere, including iOS (iPhones & iPads)
> and Android phones and tablets.
>
> The name of this Office Suite is: Thinkfree 
>
> It would be great if there was a simple version of LO with only these three
> apps and that would run under Android & iOS.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Jaime R. Garza

There are others as well, such as koffice and calligra.  The latter
already has a dedicated mobile version with its own UI and I think an
Android port of this is planned (it requires Qt be ported to android,
which is already pretty far along).

-Todd

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Re: [tdf-discuss] LO & OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android & iOS

[Jonathan Aquilina]

On 31/03/2011 17:51, Stefan Weigel wrote:

Hi,

interesting discussion.

Am 31.03.2011 17:32, schrieb Jaime R. Garza:


"disadvise"?

Well, I consistently advise to use free software (not freeware!) and
open standards.


Thinkfree has great compatibility with MS formats (still the
defacto-standards)

Hm. The fact, that most people are using it, doesn´t make a standard.


and runs in all platforms including Android and iOS.

A big advantage, no doubt.


The advise here is that LO developers should try to focus on making those
three 3 apps available as soon as possible for Android&  iOS.

This would mean to recode the whole Software from scratch, I fear.

However, as far as I understand, LibreOffice developers are very
well aware of the desire of running the suite on mobile devices. It
somehow is wishful thinking. ;-)

:-)

Stefan


It is not wishful thinking. Someone as part of the GSoC (google summer 
of code) is working on getting LO on android. Mac is a problem due to 
licensing, the big chunks of code which are licensed form oracle would 
have to go or be rewritten, and everything also licensed with the 
appropriate license for mac to get it accepted into the app store


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Re: [tdf-discuss] LO & OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android & iOS

[Stefan Weigel]

Hi,

interesting discussion.

Am 31.03.2011 17:32, schrieb Jaime R. Garza:

> "disadvise"?

Well, I consistently advise to use free software (not freeware!) and
open standards.

> Thinkfree has great compatibility with MS formats (still the
> defacto-standards)

Hm. The fact, that most people are using it, doesn´t make a standard.

> and runs in all platforms including Android and iOS.

A big advantage, no doubt.

> The advise here is that LO developers should try to focus on making those
> three 3 apps available as soon as possible for Android & iOS.

This would mean to recode the whole Software from scratch, I fear.

However, as far as I understand, LibreOffice developers are very
well aware of the desire of running the suite on mobile devices. It
somehow is wishful thinking. ;-)

:-)

Stefan


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Re: [tdf-discuss] LO & OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android & iOS

[Jaime R. Garza]

Hello Stefan ,

"disadvise"?

It's not about advise or not, is about platform-independence!

Thinkfree has great compatibility with MS formats (still the
defacto-standards) and runs in all platforms including Android and iOS.

The advise here is that LO developers should try to focus on making those
three 3 apps available as soon as possible for Android & iOS.

(1) They plan to support ODF on the next version.

(2) Yes, exactly as MSOffice

;-)

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 16:21, Stefan Weigel <
stefan.wei...@bildungskreis.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Am 31.03.2011 15:39, schrieb Jaime R. Garza:
>
> > The name of this Office Suite is: Thinkfree 
>
> (1) It does not support the ISO Standard for document file formats,
> does it?
>
> (2) It is proprietary software, isn't?
>
> For me, two heavy reasons to disadvise this software. ;-)
>
> Stefan :-)
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Re: [tdf-discuss] LO & OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android & iOS

[Stefan Weigel]

Hi,

Am 31.03.2011 15:39, schrieb Jaime R. Garza:

> The name of this Office Suite is: Thinkfree 

(1) It does not support the ISO Standard for document file formats,
does it?

(2) It is proprietary software, isn't?

For me, two heavy reasons to disadvise this software. ;-)

Stefan :-)

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[tdf-discuss] LO & OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android & iOS

[Jaime R. Garza]

Dear all,

I have read that some of you believe there are no other true competitors to
MSOffice, but LO & OO.

There is a simple Office Suite (simple because it only has spreadsheet,
wordprocessor and presentations) but is becoming very popular, specially in
the enterprise, since it runs everywhere, including iOS (iPhones & iPads)
and Android phones and tablets.

The name of this Office Suite is: Thinkfree 

It would be great if there was a simple version of LO with only these three
apps and that would run under Android & iOS.

Cheers!

Jaime R. Garza

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