[tdf-discuss] Open source and open formats

2013-03-23 Thread Pedro
Hi all

In the sequence of this topic at the Marketing list
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Open-Xchange-to-launch-open-source-browser-based-office-suite-tp4045197.html

I share Simon Phipps' concern that the company announces a GPL Open Source
office suite which is not free for commercial use???

Is this even possible under GPL? 
This just spreads further confusion on how free Open Source software really
is...

Another sentence that worries me is Microsoft Word .docx files and
OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice .odt files

This is bad marketing and bad public image that ODT seems to be proprietary
of OpenOffice and LibreOffice. And yet I don't see any concerns about this
in the topic commenting the news article.

Shouldn't TDF be championing the ODF open formats or is this an OASIS job?



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Re: [tdf-discuss] Open source and open formats

2013-03-23 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Pedro,

I understand your question in a different way. No one can prohibit a gpl 
software to be sold andno one can prohibit it to its downstream distributor. 
But it looks like this software is licensed under a CC licence, non commercial, 
BY and SA, which does make its open source nature problematic and not GPL. 

As for ODF the Oasis is in charge of developing it but the promotion campaigns 
are supposed to be shared by various groups and various implementors. TDF is 
however not responsible for OX'own wording.


Tony Pursell a...@princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk a écrit :

Hi Pedro

On 23 March 2013 09:48, Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all

 In the sequence of this topic at the Marketing list


http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Open-Xchange-to-launch-open-source-browser-based-office-suite-tp4045197.html

 I share Simon Phipps' concern that the company announces a GPL Open
Source
 office suite which is not free for commercial use???

 Is this even possible under GPL?
 This just spreads further confusion on how free Open Source software
really
 is...

 Another sentence that worries me is Microsoft Word .docx files and
 OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice .odt files

 This is bad marketing and bad public image that ODT seems to be
proprietary
 of OpenOffice and LibreOffice. And yet I don't see any concerns about
this
 in the topic commenting the news article.

 Shouldn't TDF be championing the ODF open formats or is this an OASIS
job?


Nothing in the GPL licence, or, as far as I know, any other Open Source
licence, prevents someone from charging for the supply of an Open
Source
product.  Many Open Source products are, of course, available free of
charge, but there can be many circumstances where a charge needs to be
made
for the delivery of a product to the customer, or for supporting the
customer's use of a product and these would seem to be what
Open-Xchange
are charging for.

Tony

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