Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?
Hi All, Today I worked on the "versioninfo" sections of LibO Windows executables. See: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30798 Please let me know when you reach consensus upon what to use as "CompanyName" and "LegalCopyright". For those who don't know, these appear in the file properties under Windows. Currently we don't have these unified in the source. CompanyName: The Document Foundation OpenOffice.org Oracle Star Office Entwicklungs GmbH LegalCopyright: Copyright 2001 The Document Foundation Sun Microsystems, Inc. Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Copyright (C) 2000 Oracle, Inc. Thanks, Andras -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 8:09 PM, jonathon wrote: > Note # 4: The copyright list states who the copyright holder was, when > it was published, not who the current copyright holder is; Wrong. Copyright notice reflects a name of copyright holder and year when code was added. It does not matter that Sun Inc. was copyright holder before 2010, Oracle bought all of it thus becoming copyright holder. So it reads Copyright © 2000-2010 Oracle Inc. More info on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_notice http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-definitions.html#notice -- kaaposc -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?
jonathon wrote:
Note # 3: I'm assuming that Sun, Inc was the sole copyright owner, for
code added to OOo during the years it ran the project. If it wasn't,
the other copyright owners need to have their names added;
Well, there were/are code parts that were/are distributed *with* the
binaries and that were/are under different licenses and/or copyrighted
by people who never signed the JCA.
Originally, at least until 2005, those parts were in a CVS branch called
"external".
I'm sure about this fact because I spent more than 18 month before
having an authorization from Sun for the Italian spell checker
dictionary that is co-owned by me, who have signed *2* JCA (the original
and the newer one) and by a person who has *never* signed those agreements.
Then, there is a long list of third party "contributions" listed under
"Help>Licence information..." at the end of file and owned from:
Microsoft Corporation <<< Well, quite a surprise...
Bitstream, Inc.
BerkeleyDB
Pavel Rychly, Pavel Smrz, {pary,sm...@fi.muni.cz, NLPlab, Faculty of
Informatics, Masaryk University
Alan Murta
LaTeX3 Project
and many others.
Indeed, an accurate legal check about what is *really* included into the
repositories under LGPL, it's an absolute duty for the new project.
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?
On 10/08/2010 06:54 PM, Goran Rakic wrote: > why don't you write all the names of all contributors, both individuals and companies, translators, etc? The various pieces of paperwork that people that contributed to OOo had to sign, gave all of the rights to Sun. As such, Sun is/was the copyright holder. Assuming that Sun executed an assignment of all rights to Oracle, Oracle became the copyright holder when it purchased Sun. I'll let somebody else decide how safe it is to assume that Sun did execute such an assignment. It wouldn't be the first time that one company purchased another company, without having an assignment of copyright executed. [When Google starts playing hardball with Oracle, it will demand that Oracle produce the paperwork that demonstrates that Sun did assign all of its intellectual property rights to Oracle. If Oracle can't produce that paperwork ] jonathon -- No human will see non-list, non-bulk, non-junk email sent to this address . It all gets forwarded to /dev/null -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?
У пет, 08. 10 2010. у 20:46 +0200, Volker Merschmann пише: > >> Technically, it needs to read > >> > >> << Copyright © 1999 StarOffice GmHz; > >> Copyright © 2000 Sun INC, > If you are not accepting transfer of copyright rights that was eventually made to Oracle in 2010, why don't you write all the names of all contributors, both individuals and companies, translators, etc? Goran -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?
Hi, 2010/10/8 Peter Hillier-Brook : > On 08/10/2010 18:09, jonathon wrote: >> >> On 10/08/2010 02:37 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: >> Copyright © 2000, 2010 Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Don't think it's correct, is it? >> >>> Its the very first beta being offered, it was inevitable some things wo >> >> uld be missed... >> >>> Unless - maybe legally the copyrights have to stay (hope not)? >> >> Technically, it needs to read >> >> << Copyright © 1999 StarOffice GmHz; >> Copyright © 2000 Sun INC, >> Copyright © 2001 Sun INC, >> Copyright © 2002 Sun INC, >> Copyright © 2003 Sun INC, >> Copyright © 2004 Sun INC, >> Copyright © 2005 Sun INC, >> Copyright © 2006 Sun INC, >> Copyright © 2007 Sun INC, >> Copyright © 2008 Sun INC, >> Copyright © 2009 Sun INC, >> Copyright © 2010 Oracle INC, Document Foundation, Novell Inc, and othe r >> >> affiliates.>> >> >> Only when one is 100% guaranteed that no code from a specific copyright >> holder is included, can the specific copyright holder be dropped from >> the list. (Looking at the source code, I can't tell what pre-dates 2000. ) >> >> >> Note # 1: I've gotten the name of the German company wrong. That need s >> to be replaced with the correct name; > > It was Star Division, if I remember correctly. > And it has to be "GmbH" instead of "GmHz" Volker -- ++ Volker Merschmann - ODF-Software Contributor -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
Re: RE : Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?
On 10/08/2010 05:18 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > the Document Foundation does not take the copyright of its contributors . So we should not be listed as copyright owners. Document Foundation has a copyright in the selection of the code that is used for the specific version of the program. This is different from the copyright that the individual contributors of the code have. This is also different from any assignment of copyright that Document Foundation might have. I'm being extremely picky here, but it comes down to the derivative/compilation issue, and who owns which copyrights to what. jonathon -- No human will see non-list, non-bulk, non-junk email sent to this address . It all gets forwarded to /dev/null -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?
On 08/10/2010 18:09, jonathon wrote: On 10/08/2010 02:37 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: Copyright © 2000, 2010 Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Don't think it's correct, is it? Its the very first beta being offered, it was inevitable some things wo uld be missed... Unless - maybe legally the copyrights have to stay (hope not)? Technically, it needs to read << Copyright © 1999 StarOffice GmHz; Copyright © 2000 Sun INC, Copyright © 2001 Sun INC, Copyright © 2002 Sun INC, Copyright © 2003 Sun INC, Copyright © 2004 Sun INC, Copyright © 2005 Sun INC, Copyright © 2006 Sun INC, Copyright © 2007 Sun INC, Copyright © 2008 Sun INC, Copyright © 2009 Sun INC, Copyright © 2010 Oracle INC, Document Foundation, Novell Inc, and other affiliates.>> Only when one is 100% guaranteed that no code from a specific copyright holder is included, can the specific copyright holder be dropped from the list. (Looking at the source code, I can't tell what pre-dates 2000.) Note # 1: I've gotten the name of the German company wrong. That needs to be replaced with the correct name; It was Star Division, if I remember correctly. Peter HB [cut] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
RE : Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?
Hey Jonathon, Welcome to this list. There is one thing which also needs to be understood and mentioned: the Document Foundation does not take the copyright of its contributors. So we should not be listed as copyright owners. Charles. Le 8 oct. 2010, 7:10 PM, "jonathon" a écrit : On 10/08/2010 02:37 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: >> Copyright © 2000, 2010 > > Oracle and/or its affil... Technically, it needs to read << Copyright © 1999 StarOffice GmHz; Copyright © 2000 Sun INC, Copyright © 2001 Sun INC, Copyright © 2002 Sun INC, Copyright © 2003 Sun INC, Copyright © 2004 Sun INC, Copyright © 2005 Sun INC, Copyright © 2006 Sun INC, Copyright © 2007 Sun INC, Copyright © 2008 Sun INC, Copyright © 2009 Sun INC, Copyright © 2010 Oracle INC, Document Foundation, Novell Inc, and other affiliates. >> Only when one is 100% guaranteed that no code from a specific copyright holder is included, can the specific copyright holder be dropped from the list. (Looking at the source code, I can't tell what pre-dates 2000.) Note # 1: I've gotten the name of the German company wrong. That needs to be replaced with the correct name; Note # 2: The list needs to start with when that German company started coding the project; Note # 3: I'm assuming that Sun, Inc was the sole copyright owner, for code added to OOo during the years it ran the project. If it wasn't, the other copyright owners need to have their names added; Note # 4: The copyright list states who the copyright holder was, when it was published, not who the current copyright holder is; Note # 5: "and other affiliates" needs to replaced with the name of the specific copyright holders; jonathon -- No human will see non-list, non-bulk, non-junk email sent to this address . It all gets forwarded to /dev/null -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.orgAll messages you send to ... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?
On 10/08/2010 02:37 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: >> Copyright © 2000, 2010 >> Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. >> Don't think it's correct, is it? > Its the very first beta being offered, it was inevitable some things wo uld be missed... > Unless - maybe legally the copyrights have to stay (hope not)? Technically, it needs to read << Copyright © 1999 StarOffice GmHz; Copyright © 2000 Sun INC, Copyright © 2001 Sun INC, Copyright © 2002 Sun INC, Copyright © 2003 Sun INC, Copyright © 2004 Sun INC, Copyright © 2005 Sun INC, Copyright © 2006 Sun INC, Copyright © 2007 Sun INC, Copyright © 2008 Sun INC, Copyright © 2009 Sun INC, Copyright © 2010 Oracle INC, Document Foundation, Novell Inc, and other affiliates. >> Only when one is 100% guaranteed that no code from a specific copyright holder is included, can the specific copyright holder be dropped from the list. (Looking at the source code, I can't tell what pre-dates 2000.) Note # 1: I've gotten the name of the German company wrong. That needs to be replaced with the correct name; Note # 2: The list needs to start with when that German company started coding the project; Note # 3: I'm assuming that Sun, Inc was the sole copyright owner, for code added to OOo during the years it ran the project. If it wasn't, the other copyright owners need to have their names added; Note # 4: The copyright list states who the copyright holder was, when it was published, not who the current copyright holder is; Note # 5: "and other affiliates" needs to replaced with the name of the specific copyright holders; jonathon -- No human will see non-list, non-bulk, non-junk email sent to this address . It all gets forwarded to /dev/null -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?
2010/10/8 Charles Marcus > On 2010-10-08 10:27 AM, El Cico wrote: > > If I go to help-->About LibreOffice I see: > > > > LibreOffice 3.3.0 > > > > OOO330m7 (Build:9526) > > ooo-build 2010-09-24 > > > > Copyright © 2000, 2010 > > Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. > > > > Don't think it's > > correct, is it? > > Its the very first beta being offered, it was inevitable some things > would be missed... > > Unless - maybe legally the copyrights have to stay (hope not)? > we will have to, as long as we integrate OOo code :-) Charles. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?
Charles Marcus wrote: Its the very first beta being offered, it was inevitable some things would be missed... Unless - maybe legally the copyrights have to stay (hope not)? It has to stay. :) -- Tempesta e Passione sbarcano su Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/Sturm-Drang-Gianluca-Turconi/dp/B002ACTPSE/ref=sr_1_79?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1243410943&sr=1-79 Lettura gratuita o acquisto di libri e racconti di fantascienza, fantasy, horror, noir, narrativa fantastica e tradizionale: http://www.letturefantastiche.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?
On 2010-10-08 10:27 AM, El Cico wrote: > If I go to help-->About LibreOffice I see: > > LibreOffice 3.3.0 > > OOO330m7 (Build:9526) > ooo-build 2010-09-24 > > Copyright © 2000, 2010 > Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. > > Don't think it's > correct, is it? Its the very first beta being offered, it was inevitable some things would be missed... Unless - maybe legally the copyrights have to stay (hope not)? -- Best regards, Charles -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
[tdf-discuss] Oracle copyright on LibreOffice ?
Hi all, Don't know if this is the right list to post to... anyway... If I go to help-->About LibreOffice I see: LibreOffice 3.3.0 OOO330m7 (Build:9526) ooo-build 2010-09-24 Copyright © 2000, 2010 Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Don't think it's correct, is it? Ciao cico :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
