Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage
Is there _any_ database that people use that doesn't have a JDBC driver at this point? Maybe we can keep our lives simple by only enabling JDBC drivers? Marc-André Laverdière Software Security Scientist Innovation Labs, Tata Consultancy Services Hyderabad, India On 06/12/2011 02:19 AM, Francois Tigeot wrote: On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 01:18:47PM -0700, NoOp wrote: On 06/11/2011 12:42 PM, Francois Tigeot wrote: On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:47:54AM -0700, NoOp wrote: As far as I know, nobody has used Adabas D since 2004, and the stuff is proprietary crippleware at best. There are much better options today if you want to use a serious database engine. Then perhaps the driver should be updated to support Adabas 8.2? http://www.softwareag.com/corporate/products/new_releases/adabas/default.asp It can't be: the driver is for Adabas D and Adabas (no D) is a different product. The Community Edition is version 6.1.8. This Community Edition is an old, crippled version of the Adabas D product. Apart from the name, it has nothing to do with the real Adabas database; according to Wikipedia, Software AG bought the engine from a different company and renamed it in the 1990s. The PDF fact sheet on http://www.softwareag.com/Corporate/products/adabas/rela_3rd_prod/adad/default.asp is dated from 2007 and includes a reference to Adabas D 14; with such a version gap 4 years ago, I can't help believing the community version has been abandoned ... -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:06:16PM +0530, Marc-André Laverdière wrote: Is there _any_ database that people use that doesn't have a JDBC driver at this point? Maybe we can keep our lives simple by only enabling JDBC drivers? Make that ODBC and perhaps JDBC. Having LibreOffice depending on a Java installation would be suicide. Java is inherently non-portable and is a real PITA if you don't use Windows or Linux on i386. I consider it a deprecated technology and don't intend to support it. -- Francois Tigeot -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage
Le 17/06/11 08:36, Marc-André Laverdière a écrit : Is there _any_ database that people use that doesn't have a JDBC driver at this point? Maybe we can keep our lives simple by only enabling JDBC drivers? Other than the fact that it would make LibreOffice even more dependent on Java technologies, which is precisely the opposite direction in which current evolution of the product is planned, using JDBC within LibreOffice really sucks when it comes to performance for anything more than a few thousand tuples, not to mention the various quirks when Java runtime or JDK versions are changed, either by the user, or the OS supplier / distributor. Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 09:02:25PM -0700, aqualung wrote: Francois Tigeot wrote: On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:54:46AM +0200, Francois Tigeot wrote: You would probably get more input if you posted your question on one of the OpenOffice.org forums, in the Base section. Thanks for the tip, I'll have a look there. I tried to create an account, and more than 3 hours later I'm still waiting for the confirmation email. It seems the old forum infrastructure is already dying ... Sorry to hear that, but in fact there is a steady stream of new registrations at the forum, and no problems with the infrastructure that I am aware of. That's too bad, I just pushed a patch to disable the native Adabas D driver this morning. Oh well. The code has only been disabled, not removed; if there are still some real users of this driver, it can still be reactivated in a future 3.5.x release. -- Francois Tigeot -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage
Le 12/06/11 03:04, Uwe Altmann a écrit : Hi Uwe, Adabas was bundeled only with StarOffice (never with OOo) - it was one of the Add-Ons Star Office had (besides more Gallery entries, templates and better spell checking then OOo) in former times. In former times refers to OOo 1.* when OOo has no official (=Sun/Star Office) Version for Macs; so Adabas connection/driver never had a need for Mac support by Sun. That would explain why I had it for several years, since I decided to pay for StarOffice through most of its commercial versions, even after OOo had been launched. At the time I wasn't on the Mac platform though. Meanwhile Adabas is a legacy product. I wonder if anyone uses it in a productive environment. Surely not on a Mac. As has been said - whoever need this can stick on an older OOo Version. I think François has already proposed a patch in master on the developer list for the config scripts to no longer build the Adabas driver component module. Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage
Le 10/06/11 18:46, Cor Nouws a écrit : Hi Cor, When creating a new Database, connecting to an existing one, you can choose Adabas DB... So I guess the code has to do with that? Well I eventually managed to find a free download of Adabas D for Linux. The setup is not trivial, even for an individual user (involves setting up a root account for the db admin, and a separate group, to which all Adabas users need to be added), and I wonder how many individual users would actually go to the trouble of installing it now on their personal computer ? Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage
Le 10/06/11 14:48, Francois Tigeot a écrit : Hi François, In the past, some versions of StarOffice were bundled with a limited freeware version of the Adabas database engine. The Adabas support is still present in LibreOffice; howewer, I'm not sure if it is still used or if the free (as in beer) Adabas version is still available somewhere. I would like to know if some people still use it, and on which platforms. You would probably get more input if you posted your question on one of the OpenOffice.org forums, in the Base section. The response from there would probably be more representative, as there don't appear to be many Base users here on this mailing list, or even on the user mailing list. I suppose the real question is : why do you want to remove it if it continues to work OK ? Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage
Hi, On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 09:40:43AM +0200, Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 10/06/11 18:46, Cor Nouws a écrit : When creating a new Database, connecting to an existing one, you can choose Adabas DB... So I guess the code has to do with that? Well I eventually managed to find a free download of Adabas D for Linux. The setup is not trivial, even for an individual user (involves setting up a root account for the db admin, and a separate group, to which all Adabas users need to be added), and I wonder how many individual users would actually go to the trouble of installing it now on their personal computer ? Not many, I fear. Most of the user-oriented discussions Adabas D discussions I found on Google were from before 2004. Where did you find your download copy ? Is it recent ? I had a look at the official website here : http://www.softwareag.com/Corporate/products/adabas/rela_3rd_prod/adad/default.asp and there's no download link. The Download free Adabas D license (Personal Edition) text is just that, text. I had a look at the request a commercial license form; the most recent operating system in the list is Windows Server 2003. At least one (Tru64) has been abandonned for years ... -- Francois Tigeot -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage
Hi Alex, Alexander Thurgood wrote (11-06-11 09:40) Well I eventually managed to find a free download of Adabas D for Linux. The setup is not trivial, even for an individual user (involves setting up a root account for the db admin, and a separate group, to which all Whoops - brave! Adabas users need to be added), and I wonder how many individual users would actually go to the trouble of installing it now on their personal computer ? Very very few, I guess ;-) But imagine some deployment have an old DB of that type running on a server. Could well be, isn't it? -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage
Le 11/06/11 10:45, Francois Tigeot a écrit : Hi François, Where did you find your download copy ? Is it recent ? I had a look at the official website here : http://www.softwareag.com/Corporate/products/adabas/rela_3rd_prod/adad/default.asp and there's no download link. Yeah, you have to be a bit sneaky when filling in the form and register yourself as a private individual - this was the only way I managed to get a download link to both the Windows and Linux version. If you register as corporate or give a business name in the requested identification fields, you get sent an e-mail that tells you where to go for the download, but it also tells you that you can only get Adabas D for Windows Vista and Windows 7. Not that System AG want to limit use of their free product or anything, lol !! Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage
Le 11/06/11 10:49, Cor Nouws a écrit : Hi Cor, Very very few, I guess ;-) But imagine some deployment have an old DB of that type running on a server. Could well be, isn't it? Well the company say that there is a JDBC driver available, so even if direct support was pulled from LibO, it would still be accessible via JDBC (in theory). Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage
Le 11/06/11 10:54, Francois Tigeot a écrit : Hi François, Oh, I'm really indifferent about it; what I'm concerned about is the hardcoded list of platforms determining whether the client library is build or not. Agreed. I'd like to remove this list, and either build the adabas client library for all systems or not at all. There's no need to have artificial platform differences in the code which make porting to new platforms or future maintainance more difficult. If Adabas D really is abandonware, we could kill two birds with one stone. Agreed again. All platforms or nothing seems fair enough. I don't really understand why it was never made available for Mac, guess the owners of Adabas D never thought it was worthwhile. Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:54:46AM +0200, Francois Tigeot wrote: On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 09:44:35AM +0200, Alexander Thurgood wrote: You would probably get more input if you posted your question on one of the OpenOffice.org forums, in the Base section. Thanks for the tip, I'll have a look there. I tried to create an account, and more than 3 hours later I'm still waiting for the confirmation email. It seems the old forum infrastructure is already dying ... -- Francois Tigeot -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage
On 06/11/2011 04:47 AM, Francois Tigeot wrote: ... I think the picture is clear enough; I'll have a word on the developers list and try to disable the Adabas D driver. Please don't. $ cat /etc/adabasrc DBROOT=/opt/adabas DBCONFIG=${DBCONFIG:-${HOME}/.adabas} DBWORK=${DBWORK:-${HOME}/.adabas} PATH=${PATH:-}${PATH:+:}${DBROOT}/bin:${DBROOT}/pgm LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${LD_LIBRARY_PATH:-}${LD_LIBRARY_PATH:+:}${DBROOT}/lib export DBROOT DBWORK DBCONFIG PATH LD_LIBRARY_PATH -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage
On 06/11/2011 01:45 AM, Francois Tigeot wrote: ... Where did you find your download copy ? Is it recent ? I had a look at the official website here : http://www.softwareag.com/Corporate/products/adabas/rela_3rd_prod/adad/default.asp and there's no download link. The Download free Adabas D license (Personal Edition) text is just that, text. I had a look at the request a commercial license form; the most recent operating system in the list is Windows Server 2003. At least one (Tru64) has been abandonned for years ... Perhaps this is what you are looking for?: http://www.softwareag.com/corporate/products/adabas_2010/download/default.asp -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:41:54AM -0700, NoOp wrote: On 06/11/2011 04:47 AM, Francois Tigeot wrote: I think the picture is clear enough; I'll have a word on the developers list and try to disable the Adabas D driver. Please don't. $ cat /etc/adabasrc DBROOT=/opt/adabas [...] Does this mean you're using Adabas D with LibreOffice ? If this is the case, I'll have a go at enabling it everywhere. -- Francois Tigeot -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage
On 06/11/2011 11:02 AM, Francois Tigeot wrote: On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:41:54AM -0700, NoOp wrote: On 06/11/2011 04:47 AM, Francois Tigeot wrote: I think the picture is clear enough; I'll have a word on the developers list and try to disable the Adabas D driver. Please don't. $ cat /etc/adabasrc DBROOT=/opt/adabas [...] Does this mean you're using Adabas D with LibreOffice ? If this is the case, I'll have a go at enabling it everywhere. I'd experimented with Adabas D with OpenOffice.org. Unfortunately, I can't test with LO due to not being able to use *any* data source: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32948 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:47:54AM -0700, NoOp wrote: I'd experimented with Adabas D with OpenOffice.org. Unfortunately, I can't test with LO due to not being able to use *any* data source: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32948 I'm sorry but if this is only for an experiment, I don't see the point in keeping the library driver. As far as I know, nobody has used Adabas D since 2004, and the stuff is proprietary crippleware at best. There are much better options today if you want to use a serious database engine. Please note that even if the native Adabas D driver is disabled, you can still use the database engine with the JDBC or the ODBC driver: http://documentation.softwareag.com/adabas/aad1514/ineteng/chapter6.htm http://documentation.softwareag.com/adabas/aad1513/unxuseng/uxodbc.htm -- Francois Tigeot -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage
On 06/11/2011 12:42 PM, Francois Tigeot wrote: On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:47:54AM -0700, NoOp wrote: I'd experimented with Adabas D with OpenOffice.org. Unfortunately, I can't test with LO due to not being able to use *any* data source: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32948 I'm sorry but if this is only for an experiment, I don't see the point in keeping the library driver. Valid point. I seem to recall that I installed it with StarOffice. As far as I know, nobody has used Adabas D since 2004, and the stuff is proprietary crippleware at best. There are much better options today if you want to use a serious database engine. Then perhaps the driver should be updated to support Adabas 8.2? http://www.softwareag.com/corporate/products/new_releases/adabas/default.asp The Community Edition is version 6.1.8. Please note that even if the native Adabas D driver is disabled, you can still use the database engine with the JDBC or the ODBC driver: http://documentation.softwareag.com/adabas/aad1514/ineteng/chapter6.htm http://documentation.softwareag.com/adabas/aad1513/unxuseng/uxodbc.htm Thanks. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 01:18:47PM -0700, NoOp wrote: On 06/11/2011 12:42 PM, Francois Tigeot wrote: On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:47:54AM -0700, NoOp wrote: As far as I know, nobody has used Adabas D since 2004, and the stuff is proprietary crippleware at best. There are much better options today if you want to use a serious database engine. Then perhaps the driver should be updated to support Adabas 8.2? http://www.softwareag.com/corporate/products/new_releases/adabas/default.asp It can't be: the driver is for Adabas D and Adabas (no D) is a different product. The Community Edition is version 6.1.8. This Community Edition is an old, crippled version of the Adabas D product. Apart from the name, it has nothing to do with the real Adabas database; according to Wikipedia, Software AG bought the engine from a different company and renamed it in the 1990s. The PDF fact sheet on http://www.softwareag.com/Corporate/products/adabas/rela_3rd_prod/adad/default.asp is dated from 2007 and includes a reference to Adabas D 14; with such a version gap 4 years ago, I can't help believing the community version has been abandoned ... -- Francois Tigeot -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage
Hi Alex, * Am 11.06.11 11:28, schrieb Alexander Thurgood: Agreed again. All platforms or nothing seems fair enough. I don't really understand why it was never made available for Mac, guess the owners of Adabas D never thought it was worthwhile. Adabas was bundeled only with StarOffice (never with OOo) - it was one of the Add-Ons Star Office had (besides more Gallery entries, templates and better spell checking then OOo) in former times. In former times refers to OOo 1.* when OOo has no official (=Sun/Star Office) Version for Macs; so Adabas connection/driver never had a need for Mac support by Sun. Meanwhile Adabas is a legacy product. I wonder if anyone uses it in a productive environment. Surely not on a Mac. As has been said - whoever need this can stick on an older OOo Version. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Uwe Altmann -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage
Le 10/06/11 14:48, Francois Tigeot a écrit : Hi François In the past, some versions of StarOffice were bundled with a limited freeware version of the Adabas database engine. The Adabas support is still present in LibreOffice; howewer, I'm not sure if it is still used or if the free (as in beer) Adabas version is still available somewhere. I would like to know if some people still use it, and on which platforms. If it is there in the code, it can not be seen anywhere in the UI that I know of, so to all intents and purposes, users are unaware that it is actually there. I seem to recall that it was phased out of the UI sometime during the development of the new Base module with integration of HSQLDB, i.e. somewhere between OOo 1.1.x and OOo 2.x I would expect that most people here, if they didn't know StarOffice/OpenOffice.org from the beginning, would probably not even know that there was Adabas support floating around, and indeed, as I said, I thought that Adabas no longer worked with OOo/LibO. Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage
Le 10/06/11 14:48, Francois Tigeot a écrit : Me again, In the past, some versions of StarOffice were bundled with a limited freeware version of the Adabas database engine. The Adabas support is still present in LibreOffice; howewer, I'm not sure if it is still used or if the free (as in beer) Adabas version is still available somewhere. I would like to know if some people still use it, and on which platforms. I've just checked on Mac OSX and Adabas is not in the list of available db engines to which a user can connect. So, I can only assume that the only current way to do this in LibreOffice would be via macros or some other scripting language (if that) ? Additionally, the community edition of Adabas is only available for Windows Vista and 7 users, I just went over to Software AG's website and checked. However, looking at the code in the adabas directory in my git repo shows that it could be used as an example for people wanting to develop their own C++ driver implementation for other similar db engines (Firebird anyone ?) I know currently that you can find some stuff in skeleton, but since the mysql connector was implemented, the word from OOo devs was to use the mysql stuff as an example - perhaps the adabas stuff is just obsolete ? Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage
Alexander Thurgood wrote (10-06-11 17:27) If it is there in the code, it can not be seen anywhere in the UI that I know of, When creating a new Database, connecting to an existing one, you can choose Adabas DB... So I guess the code has to do with that? Regards, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage
Hi Alex, On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 05:39:34PM +0200, Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 10/06/11 14:48, Francois Tigeot a écrit : The Adabas support is still present in LibreOffice; howewer, I'm not sure if it is still used or if the free (as in beer) Adabas version is still available somewhere. I would like to know if some people still use it, and on which platforms. I've just checked on Mac OSX and Adabas is not in the list of available db engines to which a user can connect. So, I can only assume that the only current way to do this in LibreOffice would be via macros or some other scripting language (if that) ? I'm not surprised you didn't find anything on Mac OSX: Adabas D support is only enabled on Windows NT and its descendants, Linux, Solaris Sparc and NetBSD. Additionally, the community edition of Adabas is only available for Windows Vista and 7 users, I just went over to Software AG's website and checked. [...] perhaps the adabas stuff is just obsolete ? This is what I'm trying to find out; the hardcoded list of platforms where it is enabled doesn't make sense. I'll have a word on the developpers channel; if nobody uses it anymore, I don't see why we couldn't disable Adabas D support everywhere. -- Francois Tigeot -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage
Le 10/06/11 18:46, Cor Nouws a écrit : Hi Cor, If it is there in the code, it can not be seen anywhere in the UI that I know of, When creating a new Database, connecting to an existing one, you can choose Adabas DB... So I guess the code has to do with that? It is not available on the Mac, unfortunately, and apparently from my records, never was. Currently, the only version of Adabas available for free is a Community Version that runs on Windows Vista and Windows 7, at least that is what I found out from the Systems AG website. Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted