Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Bring up libreoffice.org website to world *now*

2010-12-08 Thread David Nelson
Hi Harold, :-)

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 18:58, Harold Fuchs  wrote:
> Interesting that the Support tab doesn't mention
> - forums
> - technical FAQs
> - installation instructions
> - documentation
> - system requirements

In that "technical FAQs" section, can you give me more details about
what you envision there?

Got ideas for the categories? Got ideas for specific questions in those FAQs?

David Nelson

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Bring up libreoffice.org website to world *now*

2010-12-08 Thread Stefan Weigel
Harold,

Am 08.12.2010 11:58, schrieb Harold Fuchs:

> Interesting that the Support tab doesn't mention
> - forums
> - technical FAQs
> - installation instructions
> - documentation
> - system requirements

The site is under construction. What do you expect?

You are invited to contribute! Please follow these steps:

* subscribe to the website mailing list
  http://www.documentfoundation.org/contribution/#lists

* register on the website
  https://test.libreoffice.org/ForumMemberProfile/register
  (in case you see an SSL warning, refer to
  "http://wiki.cacert.org/BrowserClients

* apply for your role as author or publisher on the website mailing
  list

> I'm also fascinated, having retired from software development 10
> years ago and after all the articles and theses that have been
> written on the subject for at least 30 years, that the industry is
> still operating on the basis of "let's get the code out there and
> worry about the documentation later".

This is not the industry. This is a project of volunteers.

Stefan

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Bring up libreoffice.org website to world *now*

2010-12-08 Thread David Nelson
Hi Harold, :-)

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 18:58, Harold Fuchs  wrote:
> Interesting that the Support tab doesn't mention
> - forums
> - technical FAQs
> - installation instructions
> - documentation
> - system requirements
>
> I'm also fascinated, having retired from software development 10 years ago
> and after all the articles and theses that have been written on the subject
> for at least 30 years, that the industry is still operating on the basis of
> "let's get the code out there and worry about the documentation later".
> Quite remarkable. Seems Weinberg's Second Law still applies.

Thanks for the interesting input for the support tab. I'll be taking
account of these ideas.

My primary focus in this project is documentation, and I share your
concerns about that. I hope to make a difference in this area. Did you
sign up for the docs mailing list? Please do keep your finger on the
pulse there, and speak up with your ideas and comments (constructive).

Did you see the new Linux installation instructions I pointed you to?
Feel free to feed back on the docs list about them...

David Nelson

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[tdf-discuss] Re: Bring up libreoffice.org website to world *now*

2010-12-08 Thread Harold Fuchs


"Stefan Weigel"  wrote in message 
news:4cff602c.7060...@bildungskreis.org...

Am 08.12.2010 10:49, schrieb Harold Fuchs:


By "static site" you mean http://www.documentfoundation.org ?
By "live site" you mean http://www.libreoffice.org ?


These two links point at the same place. ???


Yes. But only as long as the LibO website did not go public.

As long as the LibO website is under construction you will find it
here: http://www.test.libreoffice.org

Stefan



Ah. Thank you.

Interesting that the Support tab doesn't mention
- forums
- technical FAQs
- installation instructions
- documentation
- system requirements

I'm also fascinated, having retired from software development 10 years ago 
and after all the articles and theses that have been written on the subject 
for at least 30 years, that the industry is still operating on the basis of 
"let's get the code out there and worry about the documentation later". 
Quite remarkable. Seems Weinberg's Second Law still applies.



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London, England




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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Bring up libreoffice.org website to world *now*

2010-12-08 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi David, *,

David Nelson schrieb:

[.. libreoffice.org website lauch delay issues ..]

>We're going to get this site on the road really quickly now.

That are good news! :o))

Thanks for feeding the engine with gasoline. :o))

Gruß/regards
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LibreOffice and more on CD/DVD images
(german version already started)



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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Bring up libreoffice.org website to world *now*

2010-12-08 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-)

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 12:19, Marc Paré  wrote:
> I would like people to hold off for another week. David seems to have some
> ideas about what he would like to do with the site and its contents. I can
> help.
>
> The biggest problem with adding the content, IMO, is that there was no group
> organisation and dividing up of tasks. If this is done, the content would go
> up quicker. David seems to have taken the lead and I can help out.

I am currently liaising with Italo Vignoli, so that we get the content
really right.

Thanks for your support on this, Marc. ;-)

We're going to get this site on the road really quickly now.

David Nelson




On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 12:19, Marc Paré  wrote:
> I would like people to hold off for another week. David seems to have some
> ideas about what he would like to do with the site and its contents. I can
> help.
>
> The biggest problem with adding the content, IMO, is that there was no group
> organisation and dividing up of tasks. If this is done, the content would go
> up quicker. David seems to have taken the lead and I can help out.
>

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[tdf-discuss] Re: Bring up libreoffice.org website to world *now*

2010-12-07 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2010-12-07 18:18, Friedrich Strohmaier a écrit :

Hi Christian, *,

just a short step in here..

Christian Lohmaier schrieb:

[..]


It is because just I don't know /why/ people don't add content. It
still is not clear to me what they are waiting for.


I'd assume they wait for publishing. I can't see any reason, why to keep
the building process of the page behind the sceenes. Everything
regarding tdf is beta[1] - why not the website??

[1] O.K. The software itself isn't any more ;o)).

If there is no real plan by people keen to add content, let the
questions and complaints of visitors be the priorizing and structuring
criteria. :o)).

snip of the "test", go world and wait, what it demands from You.


I propose the following, i.e. focus the work on individual pages
this week: * Home/Welcome page: Start now, continue till sunday
(I'd like to have some nice graphics there, some updated buttons)


Do it but do it publicly. Everything is prepaired to review contents
before publishing while the site is "under traffic".

[..]

Gruß/regards


I would like people to hold off for another week. David seems to have 
some ideas about what he would like to do with the site and its 
contents. I can help.


The biggest problem with adding the content, IMO, is that there was no 
group organisation and dividing up of tasks. If this is done, the 
content would go up quicker. David seems to have taken the lead and I 
can help out.


Marc


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