Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Templates unavailable at templates.services.openoffice.org

2011-01-22 Thread Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai
Hi!

2011-01-22 07:28 keltezéssel, David Nelson írta:
 Hi Kami, :-)

 A big thanks for this, it will be an enormous boost to the template effort.

 I was wondering if you'd like to take an active part in developing our
 template collection?

 If you were willing, you could help out by uploading templates to the
 wiki, and entering up links on the wiki page [1].

 If you like, you could create yourself an author account on
 libreoffice.org [3], I could give you author permissions, and you
 could insert links in the templates page on the libreoffice site [2]?

 Do you happen to have time available for this, by any chance?

 If so, please let me know when you've created an account, and I'll
 give you the permissions. We could also look at which templates have
 been localized, and see about contacting the relevant NL site teams so
 that they can put them up for download.

 [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Downloads/Templates
 [2] https://www.libreoffice.org/features/templates/
 [3] https://www.libreoffice.org/ForumMemberProfile/register

 David Nelson

I registered as Kami. I hope I will have time to upload few templates,
but also an option to keed such files in a versioned repo such as GIT or
SVN (as linked in my first letter). Of course if we want to put files to
wiki, I will help too. One biggest advantage to hold template files in
repo that I can create (scripts are already available) extensions that
contain all templates related to one language. Another one is versioning.

First of all we should do some review work for already available
templates. We should sort out the poor templates, and improve the
already available templates before localization. Also I have several
language neutral templates (in common section). I will try to reorganize
layouts that usually good for all languages so they will move to common
section.

In license classification document we may add one more column to rate
all templates.

Best regards,
KAMI


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Templates unavailable at templates.services.openoffice.org

2011-01-22 Thread David Nelson
Hi Kami, :-)

I gave you author rights on the site...

BTW, we could also put your templates on Alfresco and maintain them there

David Nelson




On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 19:09, Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai kami...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi!

 2011-01-22 07:28 keltezéssel, David Nelson írta:
 Hi Kami, :-)

 A big thanks for this, it will be an enormous boost to the template effort.

 I was wondering if you'd like to take an active part in developing our
 template collection?

 If you were willing, you could help out by uploading templates to the
 wiki, and entering up links on the wiki page [1].

 If you like, you could create yourself an author account on
 libreoffice.org [3], I could give you author permissions, and you
 could insert links in the templates page on the libreoffice site [2]?

 Do you happen to have time available for this, by any chance?

 If so, please let me know when you've created an account, and I'll
 give you the permissions. We could also look at which templates have
 been localized, and see about contacting the relevant NL site teams so
 that they can put them up for download.

 [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Downloads/Templates
 [2] https://www.libreoffice.org/features/templates/
 [3] https://www.libreoffice.org/ForumMemberProfile/register

 David Nelson

 I registered as Kami. I hope I will have time to upload few templates,
 but also an option to keed such files in a versioned repo such as GIT or
 SVN (as linked in my first letter). Of course if we want to put files to
 wiki, I will help too. One biggest advantage to hold template files in
 repo that I can create (scripts are already available) extensions that
 contain all templates related to one language. Another one is versioning.

 First of all we should do some review work for already available
 templates. We should sort out the poor templates, and improve the
 already available templates before localization. Also I have several
 language neutral templates (in common section). I will try to reorganize
 layouts that usually good for all languages so they will move to common
 section.

 In license classification document we may add one more column to rate
 all templates.

 Best regards,
 KAMI


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Templates unavailable at templates.services.openoffice.org

2011-01-22 Thread Jonathan Aquilina

On 1/22/11 12:17 PM, David Nelson wrote:

Hi Kami, :-)

I gave you author rights on the site...

BTW, we could also put your templates on Alfresco and maintain them there

David Nelson




On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 19:09, Kálmán „KAMI” Szalaikami...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hi!

2011-01-22 07:28 keltezéssel, David Nelson írta:

Hi Kami, :-)

A big thanks for this, it will be an enormous boost to the template effort.

I was wondering if you'd like to take an active part in developing our
template collection?

If you were willing, you could help out by uploading templates to the
wiki, and entering up links on the wiki page [1].

If you like, you could create yourself an author account on
libreoffice.org [3], I could give you author permissions, and you
could insert links in the templates page on the libreoffice site [2]?

Do you happen to have time available for this, by any chance?

If so, please let me know when you've created an account, and I'll
give you the permissions. We could also look at which templates have
been localized, and see about contacting the relevant NL site teams so
that they can put them up for download.

[1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Downloads/Templates
[2] https://www.libreoffice.org/features/templates/
[3] https://www.libreoffice.org/ForumMemberProfile/register

David Nelson


I registered as Kami. I hope I will have time to upload few templates,
but also an option to keed such files in a versioned repo such as GIT or
SVN (as linked in my first letter). Of course if we want to put files to
wiki, I will help too. One biggest advantage to hold template files in
repo that I can create (scripts are already available) extensions that
contain all templates related to one language. Another one is versioning.

First of all we should do some review work for already available
templates. We should sort out the poor templates, and improve the
already available templates before localization. Also I have several
language neutral templates (in common section). I will try to reorganize
layouts that usually good for all languages so they will move to common
section.

In license classification document we may add one more column to rate
all templates.

Best regards,
KAMI


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Sorry for butting in here, but I was thinking along the lines of what 
Microsoft have for their office site. Could we do something similar 
where 3rd party templates are put there and available for download, and 
strip out all extra templates except for the basic document templates 
etc in the installer/package.


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Templates unavailable at templates.services.openoffice.org

2011-01-21 Thread David Nelson
Hi Kami, :-)

On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 09:28, Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai kami...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi!

 During the years I have collected several templates, please check them
 out here:

 https://ooop.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ooop/trunk/extras/source/premium/

 (multiple languages, sorted by original  categories)

 Also we have license classification per templates:
 https://ooop.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ooop/trunk/documents/license/

 I hope this will help.

 Looking forward to make these templates available on LibreOffice page.

A big thanks for this, it will be an enormous boost to the template effort.

I was wondering if you'd like to take an active part in developing our
template collection?

If you were willing, you could help out by uploading templates to the
wiki, and entering up links on the wiki page [1].

If you like, you could create yourself an author account on
libreoffice.org [3], I could give you author permissions, and you
could insert links in the templates page on the libreoffice site [2]?

Do you happen to have time available for this, by any chance?

If so, please let me know when you've created an account, and I'll
give you the permissions. We could also look at which templates have
been localized, and see about contacting the relevant NL site teams so
that they can put them up for download.

[1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Downloads/Templates
[2] https://www.libreoffice.org/features/templates/
[3] https://www.libreoffice.org/ForumMemberProfile/register

David Nelson

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[tdf-discuss] Re: Templates unavailable at templates.services.openoffice.org

2011-01-10 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 10/01/11 15:50, Cor Nouws a écrit :

Hi all,

 
 I am sure it is considered.
 Maybe this one has slipped through, is in the pipe-line or ??
 


http://templates.services.openoffice.org/da

is working for me with Firefox, but the other N-L sections all return a
503 error. The site is really slow responding too, so I guess there is
some kind of maintenance going on, or else the server is virtually out
for some other reason.


Alex


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Templates unavailable at templates.services.openoffice.org

2011-01-10 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-)

In any case, Marc Paré has started work on accumulating some templates
and storing them at [1]

He seems to be very cautious from the licensing viewpoint. But I hope
that we will start building up our own collection within a short
time...

[1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Downloads/Templates

David Nelson

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Templates unavailable at templates.services.openoffice.org

2011-01-10 Thread sophie

Hi Marc,
On 10/01/2011 19:14, Marc Paré wrote:
[...]


Just to be safe, it looks like we will have to contact template 
authors to either get their permission to upload their templates on 
our wiki site or have them upload themselves to our wiki site. I have 
to say, this will take time. We also have to come to a definite format 
for posting links to the files, it looks like we will have to post the 
author's name along with the licence and date of creation. Due to the 
many variants of licences, it is just too much of a minefield for us 
to wade through (very much like the screenshots done on Windows 
boxes). I think it is best for us to take the safe approach and get 
authorship permission before uploading.


There is also the problem that, by today's standards, this is 
obviously not a good looking solution. It would be better if there was 
a solution to do this on Silverstripe where authors could submit 
templates on their own. I am not sure if this is available, but IMO, 
it should really be done at site level.


In the meantime, I will start mailing the authors personally.

Additionally, I don't really think that we should be pointing to the 
OOo site for templates. We should be pointing to a site that is not in 
competition with us; this is regardless of how many templates they 
have. Pointing to our template wiki page, should therefore be the 
place where we point to. Nothing wrong with linking to the OOo 
template page from the website along with other LibreOffice compatible 
template sites.
May be a solution would be to link to OpenTemplate.org site in the 
meantime. When the webiste team has decided how to correctly handle 
that, you'll change the link. May be it's not needed to rush and show 
something not finalized and not yet very useful.


Kind regards
Sophie


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Templates unavailable at templates.services.openoffice.org

2011-01-10 Thread David Nelson
Hi Marc, :-)

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 00:14, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote:
 Additionally, I don't really think that we should be pointing to the OOo
 site for templates. We should be pointing to a site that is not in
 competition with us

On libreoffice.org the link is to http://openofficetemplates.net/

Is that the link you meant?

David Nelson

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Templates unavailable at templates.services.openoffice.org

2011-01-10 Thread sophie

Hi David,
On 10/01/2011 19:38, David Nelson wrote:

Hi Marc, :-)

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 00:14, Marc Parém...@marcpare.com  wrote:

Additionally, I don't really think that we should be pointing to the OOo
site for templates. We should be pointing to a site that is not in
competition with us

On libreoffice.org the link is to http://openofficetemplates.net/

Is that the link you meant?


May be we should first and directly point the EULA on this site,
http://openofficetemplates.net/eula/

Kind regards
Sophie

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Templates unavailable at templates.services.openoffice.org

2011-01-10 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-)

I removed the link. But this leaves us with a hole to fill in our offering...

David Nelson

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Templates unavailable at templates.services.openoffice.org

2011-01-10 Thread sophie

Hi David,
On 10/01/2011 19:46, David Nelson wrote:

Hi, :-)

I removed the link. But this leaves us with a hole to fill in our offering...

Have you something against http://opentemplate.org ?
As pointed in my answer to Marc, it could serve as a placeholder in the 
meantime the website team choose the good infrastructure to handle the 
template site. Just a proposal of course.


Kind regards
Sophie


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Templates unavailable at templates.services.openoffice.org

2011-01-10 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-)

OK, I added that site.

David Nelson

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[tdf-discuss] Re: Templates unavailable at templates.services.openoffice.org

2011-01-10 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-01-10 11:46, David Nelson a écrit :

Hi, :-)

I removed the link. But this leaves us with a hole to fill in our offering...

David Nelson



I'll try to supply you with a couple more links once the OOo template 
site is reachable. It is down at the moment. There are a couple of sites 
with great templates but their licences is restrictive. We should have a 
link to their site anyway for our members to browse through.


In the meantime, let's not forget the original post, where at opening, 
the launchpad has a template icon sending our users to the OOo template 
site. We should also recommend something for this. Perhaps a re-direct 
to the http://www.libreoffice.org/features/templates/ site temporarily. 
We could always do a redirect to our newly finished Template site if it 
is ready before 3.4.


Marc


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