Re: [tdf-discuss] Introduction/New Website Bugs

2011-01-21 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Hi Daniel, *

Welcome to our community!

Daniel Neel schrieb:

Hello all. My name is Daniel Neel and I'm interested in working on
LibreOffice's new Drupal-based web site.


I'm sorry if this disappoints you, but our new website is based on 
SilverStripe (an easy to be used CMS): http://www.libreoffice.org


Once our website is in a final state, we'll be able to discuss any 
further improvement. This might be Drupal, but at the moment there are 
other tasks, that are much more urgent than such a discussion.



I have experience developing with
(X)HTML and CSS on a couple of web sites and have dabbled with Python and
other technologies from time to time.


At the moment our website team is forming - do you want to join?

This would be great.

Please subscribe to the website mailing list (by sending a mail to 
website+subscr...@libreoffice.org and reply to the automated mail you 
get) and introduce you there, if you want to.


Anyways, I reviewed the new LibreOffice web site and recorded issues I
found. Is it possible for me to fix these bugs myself, or would I need to be
granted commit rights?


At the moment the Drupal staging site is not worked on, so I'd propose 
to add your findings to the wiki:

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Drupal/Feedback

I don't know if this Drupal solution will be more than a working draft, 
but this would allow to come back to them, when the work on the 
LibreOffice website has reached a final state and our discussions on the 
long-term solution came to a conclusion.


Please don't discuss any Drupal ideas at the moment, because they led to 
long and unproductive discussions in the past and we need to focus on 
the release now. If you follow the website list, you will find out, when 
we'll have the time to develop our goals and aims for the long-term 
website solution that will fit the needs of the entire community.


Best regards

Bernhard


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Web site bugs

All notes taken using Chromium 8.0.552.237 (70801) Ubuntu 10.10, referring
to the Drupal web site at http://libreofficeaustralia.org/

Navigation bar
  - the sub menu of the LibreOffice item doesn't appear to align along the
navigation bar's left edge, while the other items align correctly

Home Page
  - Take a tour to explore the functions and features of LibreOffice should
inlude a period after LibreOffice - all other items end in periods.
  - The shadows under each image might look better feathered a bit more, with
less hard edges
 - The shadow under the puzzle icon doesn't appear centrally aligned
while the other shadows do
  - Login or register to post comments Older polls - might be useful to
have the links highlighted/underlined, as they're (in chrome 8)
indistinguishable from normal text without mousing over them.
 - Also in chrome 8 and firefox 3.6 the Older polls item should be on a
new line - currently a little confusing

LibreOffice/Calc
  - url doesn't follow the naming convention of other LibO products. Listed
as ../features/libreoffice-calc rather than ../features/calc
   - This also might affect the page's title which is LibreOffice Calc |
LibreOffice.org when it should be Calc | LibreOffice.org, going by the
other product pages
   - also is the cause of a broken link on the Features page

Download
  - uses an old Apple logo - not sure if their newer logos are available for
use or not
  - also uses an old Ubuntu logo rather than the updated ones (located here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Brand)

Download/Extensions
  - Discover new possibilities, Extensions make document creation fun.,
Explore and install now - inconsistent use of periods

Features
  - Space between heading and start of page content inconsistent with other
pages (the space between Features and LibreOffice is a comprehensive...)

Features/Accessibility
  - Inconsistent spacing between heading and start of page content

Community/
  - Items in the large list aren't presented in the same order as in the
navigation bar
  - Page titles are inconsistent (see Project Teams and Forums vs the other
items)

Community/Project Teams
  - Contains links to two seperate Quality Assurance team pages, each with
differing content

Community/Forum
  - Sub-forum titles become un-aligned depending on if there's an icon to the
left of them (see mail icon) and if the thread has a mail icon and a
description of the sub-forum
(potentially in other cases as well)

News
  - Assuming the language bar should go below the To suggest a news article
please contact the News Editor team section.

All product pages (LibreOffice/... Calc/Writer/etc)
  - Inconsistent spacing between the navigation bar and the start of the
page's content




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Re: [tdf-discuss] Introduction/New Website Bugs

2011-01-21 Thread Daniel Neel
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Bernhard Dippold 
bernh...@familie-dippold.at wrote:

 Hi Daniel, *

 Welcome to our community!

 Daniel Neel schrieb:

  Hello all. My name is Daniel Neel and I'm interested in working on
 LibreOffice's new Drupal-based web site.


 I'm sorry if this disappoints you, but our new website is based on
 SilverStripe (an easy to be used CMS): http://www.libreoffice.org

 Once our website is in a final state, we'll be able to discuss any further
 improvement. This might be Drupal, but at the moment there are other tasks,
 that are much more urgent than such a discussion.


Oh my apologies on that. I got most of my information about where to start
on the Document Foundation wiki, and was under the impression that the
current site was a temporary fix until the Drupal site got up, and thus
decided to work on the Drupal site heh. Apologies for the misunderstanding.



  I have experience developing with
 (X)HTML and CSS on a couple of web sites and have dabbled with Python and
 other technologies from time to time.


 At the moment our website team is forming - do you want to join?

 This would be great.

 Please subscribe to the website mailing list (by sending a mail to
 website+subscr...@libreoffice.org website%2bsubscr...@libreoffice.organd 
 reply to the automated mail you get) and introduce you there, if you
 want to.


Right, I would definitely like to join. Thanks for the heads-up, I'll get
working on that.




 Anyways, I reviewed the new LibreOffice web site and recorded issues I
 found. Is it possible for me to fix these bugs myself, or would I need to
 be
 granted commit rights?


 At the moment the Drupal staging site is not worked on, so I'd propose to
 add your findings to the wiki:
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Drupal/Feedback

 I don't know if this Drupal solution will be more than a working draft, but
 this would allow to come back to them, when the work on the LibreOffice
 website has reached a final state and our discussions on the long-term
 solution came to a conclusion.

 Please don't discuss any Drupal ideas at the moment, because they led to
 long and unproductive discussions in the past and we need to focus on the
 release now. If you follow the website list, you will find out, when we'll
 have the time to develop our goals and aims for the long-term website
 solution that will fit the needs of the entire community.

 Best regards

 Bernhard


Got ya, will add my notes on the wiki also. Again, my apologies for the
misunderstanding. Thanks a bunch for the information!

Thanks,

Daniel



 --
 Web site bugs

 All notes taken using Chromium 8.0.552.237 (70801) Ubuntu 10.10, referring
 to the Drupal web site at http://libreofficeaustralia.org/

 Navigation bar
  - the sub menu of the LibreOffice item doesn't appear to align along
 the
 navigation bar's left edge, while the other items align correctly

 Home Page
  - Take a tour to explore the functions and features of LibreOffice
 should
 inlude a period after LibreOffice - all other items end in periods.
  - The shadows under each image might look better feathered a bit more,
 with
 less hard edges
 - The shadow under the puzzle icon doesn't appear centrally aligned
 while the other shadows do
  - Login or register to post comments Older polls - might be useful to
 have the links highlighted/underlined, as they're (in chrome 8)
 indistinguishable from normal text without mousing over them.
 - Also in chrome 8 and firefox 3.6 the Older polls item should be on
 a
 new line - currently a little confusing

 LibreOffice/Calc
  - url doesn't follow the naming convention of other LibO products. Listed
 as ../features/libreoffice-calc rather than ../features/calc
   - This also might affect the page's title which is LibreOffice Calc |
 LibreOffice.org when it should be Calc | LibreOffice.org, going by the
 other product pages
   - also is the cause of a broken link on the Features page

 Download
  - uses an old Apple logo - not sure if their newer logos are available
 for
 use or not
  - also uses an old Ubuntu logo rather than the updated ones (located
 here:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Brand)

 Download/Extensions
  - Discover new possibilities, Extensions make document creation fun.,
 Explore and install now - inconsistent use of periods

 Features
  - Space between heading and start of page content inconsistent with other
 pages (the space between Features and LibreOffice is a
 comprehensive...)

 Features/Accessibility
  - Inconsistent spacing between heading and start of page content

 Community/
  - Items in the large list aren't presented in the same order as in the
 navigation bar
  - Page titles are inconsistent (see Project Teams and Forums vs the other
 items)

 Community/Project Teams
  - Contains links to two seperate Quality Assurance team pages, each with
 differing content

 Community/Forum
  - Sub-forum titles become un-aligned depending on if there's an icon 

Re: [tdf-discuss] Introduction/New Website Bugs

2011-01-21 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 7:31 AM, Daniel Neel dneel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello all. My name is Daniel Neel and I'm interested in working on
 LibreOffice's new Drupal-based web site. I have experience developing with
 (X)HTML and CSS on a couple of web sites and have dabbled with Python and
 other technologies from time to time.

 Anyways, I reviewed the new LibreOffice web site and recorded issues I
 found. Is it possible for me to fix these bugs myself, or would I need to be
 granted commit rights?

 --
 Web site bugs

 All notes taken using Chromium 8.0.552.237 (70801) Ubuntu 10.10, referring
 to the Drupal web site at http://libreofficeaustralia.org/

 Navigation bar
  - the sub menu of the LibreOffice item doesn't appear to align along the
 navigation bar's left edge, while the other items align correctly

 Home Page
  - Take a tour to explore the functions and features of LibreOffice should
 inlude a period after LibreOffice - all other items end in periods.
  - The shadows under each image might look better feathered a bit more, with
 less hard edges
    - The shadow under the puzzle icon doesn't appear centrally aligned
 while the other shadows do
  - Login or register to post comments Older polls - might be useful to
 have the links highlighted/underlined, as they're (in chrome 8)
 indistinguishable from normal text without mousing over them.
    - Also in chrome 8 and firefox 3.6 the Older polls item should be on a
 new line - currently a little confusing

 LibreOffice/Calc
  - url doesn't follow the naming convention of other LibO products. Listed
 as ../features/libreoffice-calc rather than ../features/calc
  - This also might affect the page's title which is LibreOffice Calc |
 LibreOffice.org when it should be Calc | LibreOffice.org, going by the
 other product pages
  - also is the cause of a broken link on the Features page

 Download
  - uses an old Apple logo - not sure if their newer logos are available for
 use or not
  - also uses an old Ubuntu logo rather than the updated ones (located here:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Brand)

 Download/Extensions
  - Discover new possibilities, Extensions make document creation fun.,
 Explore and install now - inconsistent use of periods

 Features
  - Space between heading and start of page content inconsistent with other
 pages (the space between Features and LibreOffice is a comprehensive...)

 Features/Accessibility
  - Inconsistent spacing between heading and start of page content

 Community/
  - Items in the large list aren't presented in the same order as in the
 navigation bar
  - Page titles are inconsistent (see Project Teams and Forums vs the other
 items)

 Community/Project Teams
  - Contains links to two seperate Quality Assurance team pages, each with
 differing content

 Community/Forum
  - Sub-forum titles become un-aligned depending on if there's an icon to the
 left of them (see mail icon) and if the thread has a mail icon and a
 description of the sub-forum
   (potentially in other cases as well)

 News
  - Assuming the language bar should go below the To suggest a news article
 please contact the News Editor team section.

 All product pages (LibreOffice/... Calc/Writer/etc)
  - Inconsistent spacing between the navigation bar and the start of the
 page's content



Daniel,
Thanks for your interest in the development. We are currently focusing
on the development of the libreoffice.org site in order to get the
site up quickly. The site you are looking at has a longer term
approach and is not going to be complete in the short term.

We are organising a conference call soon to gather the website team
together in order to better coordinate this work. It would be great if
you could come along.

I will add these items to the list of actions for the Drupal
development, but I would not expect to see anything actioned here for
at least the next few weeks due to the urgency of the live site.

Thanks for contributing, and we would love to see you get involved in the team.
Michael Wheatland

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