Re: [tdf-discuss] LO OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android iOS
If one c++ compiler already exists then wouldnt it be easy as just telling the compiler to compile? On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:36 AM, toki toki.kant...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/04/2011 14:43, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: How much of LO would need to be ported since android is linux based as is? Basically, it needs to be rewritten in a language that can be compiled into Dalvik Bytecode. The usual language is Java, but at least one C++ compiler that accomplishes the same effect exists. jonathon - -- If Bing copied Google, there wouldn't be anything new worth requesting. If Bing did not copy Google, there wouldn't be anything relevant worth requesting. DaveJakeman 20110207 Groklaw. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNnU1sAAoJEERA7YuLpVrVBmAIANg52ryguy7l09mNuIh3TnzJ mrQG6Mv7ZIwsEyuzojMMVuSDGfL83o3Hn5YY31ZOHxYjG+aniFaLrjpvwdMaLYUU KDLTwcrg2D6rQqpT1N+rATpGzcPZlj8mDEWpnn591fiE3pejzkCm/7WAHs4dZhRE A+PAtrUv628ZU79eNSEv7/uRBI72MSC04wp8ZxDmQARrloB/Mt4csK0aZgmCZ3W9 B99bdT+Q645EpPllDmqj6lYbE9vUb4lnRZ86O8P+AqY9TnKyphZ6ydorPTJY+3LA wrZCen+06zf53pmVda73NwfAEXT5EgaYmOmALgh2fZC9hi0R+x7J0Uh+2aPNuwk= =p+gI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Jonathan Aquilina -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: European Commitee enter talks with MS licences, Please make your action today against it.
On 6 April 2011 12:54, aqualung xfekdcugj...@mailinator.com wrote: Ian Lynch wrote: On 6 April 2011 04:41, aqualung lt;xfekdcugj...@mailinator.comgt; wrote: Well, how many full-time developers, working 40-hour workweeks, does Microsoft Office have... and how many OOo and LibO? If the answer for MO is, say, 300... and the full-time equivalent for OOo / LibO is 50... then it's pretty much a given that MO will always have a bigger feature set and be more bug-free than OOo / LibO. This is a no-brainer! Probably broadly true but not quite so cut and dried. it will depend on competitive pressure, culture urgency, ownership and a range of other factors. If it was only about quantity of resource input there would never be any change. Ian Well of course, Ian, other things being equal. Competitive pressure? Microsoft should be fat and lazy by now, but if Steve Ballmer catches you loafing he will kick your @$$ sky-high. Culture urgency, what is that? Culture, urgency - missed a comma. We used to deal with MS a few years ago. Their attitude was awful because they thought they were the only option. Take it or leave it. That did change and probably has changed more as competitive pressure continues to build. Most large corporates, will have a lot of applicants for jobs especially in the current climate but that doesn't stop them being role dominated cultures with all the downsides of that. Take ARM, rather smaller than Intel but their processor designs are outselling x86. What made them successful was famously quoted as having no money and no people ;-) To be honest I'm not too bothered whether the world and his dog wants to use LO or MS Office. I now have a choice and my next Linux download will have LO with it not MSO. We don't use MS products at all here except to test the web site development and we don't use desktop office products that much and I'd say ability to migrate to the web and/or mobile technologies is more a serious consideration at this point in time than obscure features and bugs. -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications The Schools ITQ www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 You have received this email from the following company: The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: European Commitee enter talks with MS licences, Please make your action today against it.
Mark Preston wrote: There may be some truth to what you say, but I don't think Microsoft bashing will advance LibO, which is what we want to do. Mark, you confirm my suspicions: open-source folks don't really want Microsoft to stop their outrageous proprietary file-format lock-in, because such a move would drastically diminish interest in open-source competitors . From the point of view of open-source developers, this may be understandable. From a user's point of view, not so much. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LO-OO-are-not-the-only-competitors-of-MSOffice-LO-could-also-make-a-simple-office-suite-that-runs-inS-tp2758623p2787345.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: European Commitee enter talks with MS licences, Please make your action today against it.
A follow up-thought: As I google my way through history catching up on developments, I come across http://news.cnet.com/OpenDocument-goes-to-vote-in-Texas,-Minnesota/2100-7344_3-6157245.html this page reporting on ODF file format being made mandatory (to the exclusion of proprietary Microsoft formats) in several U.S. states. (It's from 2007.) Smart move! My opinion is still in flux, but I'm beginning to think that for most users of office suite software, having an open document format is (or will be, after they give some thought to it) absolutely a make-or-break issue, much more important than who develops the actual software and how they do it, and that's where users interested in policy and advocacy should focus most of their effort. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LO-OO-are-not-the-only-competitors-of-MSOffice-LO-could-also-make-a-simple-office-suite-that-runs-inS-tp2758623p2787413.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Feature Request: Capitalizing Letters:
2011/4/7 Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com On 2011-04-07 10:54, Steve Edmonds wrote: On 2011-04-07 10:02, Christoph Noack wrote: Hi Laurence! Am Donnerstag, den 07.04.2011, 07:32 +1000 schrieb Laurence Jeloudev: can't there be a shortcut like in microsoft office for capitalisation? You can define a shortcut to execute the capitalization feature. Please go to Tools -- Customize... and the tab Keyboard. Then select an entry in Shortcut keys according to your wish (Strg+F3 is already used for AutoText, but you may change that). Then, chose the desired feature - in your case it might be Category=Format, and Function=Capitalize Every Word (or: Rotate case). Does this help? Cheers, Christoph Thanks, helped me - I just had a cause to lowercase 2 letters in the middle of a list of uppercase words. Made it much easier with a shortcut. In fact it is even better to asign my own shortcut. For best efficiency I like to keep one hand on the mouse and one on the keyboard (highlight-shortcut) and hence I want one handed shortcuts. SHIFT+F is no good, CTRL+SHIFT+L or CTRL+SHIFT+U works for me. When assigning, keyboard shortcuts, Ubuntu and other Linux users might want to note that «Ctrl + Shift + u» provides access to Unicode hexadecimals Henri -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: what comes first, ODF or OOo/LibO, was: : European Commitee enter talks with MS licences, Please make your action today against it.
M. Fioretti wrote: Ooo/LibO are a means to use OpenDocument, not the reverse (1). And those who should sue are citizens and governments, not the open source community. (1) see OpenDocument first. Always at http://stop.zona-m.net/2010/11/three-things-to-not-forget-to-make-libreoffice-and-odf-succeed/ I think we are largely in agreement already. Thank you for the link to your web page. Passionate writing and spot on. As for me, I use OO (soon, perhaps: LibO) and MO interchangeably. I save all my important personal and business files in .odt etc. format, and offer to my clients that they can receive their files in .odt format. Nevertheless, both reading and writing .docx etc. will remain a necessity for some time. Too bad that the EU is not coming down hard on Microsoft to lay open .docx etc. One can only speculate about the reasons -- departure of hard-charging antitrust lawyers from the Commission perhaps? -- but the awesome powers of the Commission are unfortunately not being utilized at the moment. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/what-comes-first-ODF-or-OOo-LibO-was-European-Commitee-enter-talks-with-MS-licences-Please-make-your-tp2789014p2789704.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Microsoft Producer for Powerpoint 2003 equivalent
Hi Randolf, On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 07:40 -0400, Randolph, Ronald E. wrote: Just a question guys, before I decide on your great product. End user questions don't belong on the developer list. Please use the discuss list for that. Thanks, Michael. -- michael.me...@novell.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LO OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android iOS
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 2:12 AM, Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:36 AM, toki toki.kant...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/04/2011 14:43, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: How much of LO would need to be ported since android is linux based as is? Basically, it needs to be rewritten in a language that can be compiled into Dalvik Bytecode. The usual language is Java, but at least one C++ compiler that accomplishes the same effect exists. If one c++ compiler already exists then wouldnt it be easy as just telling the compiler to compile? Almost certainly not, it most likely needs to be able to support the proper Android APIs to work properly. And that is only to get it working as-is, without any reworking of the UI to be better on a touch-based device. -Todd -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Thank you for using OpenOffice.org
Hi, Am 11.03.2011 08:40, schrieb klaus-jürgen weghorn ol: Hi all, Am 27.02.2011 22:09, schrieb klaus-jürgen weghorn ol: Am 25.02.2011 12:02, schrieb klaus-jürgen weghorn ol: Hi Rainer, Cor, Am 25.02.2011 06:13, schrieb Rainer Bielefeld: Cor Nouws schrieb: I have never seen that effect. Hi, I also can't remember. Did anyone check whether that message also shows up when you repair the installation? Now I done two things: I repaired the installation first and second I changed it by installling the testtools. Neither by repairing nor by changing there is the website displayed. After that I deinstalled LibreOffice and installed it. And I got the message again. As I see the intialization will be before the installation of the AddOns. I believe in the custom installation somewhere is a selection to deactivate check for updates. I didn't see any of such a selection. Did someone check whether that has an influence? May be someone can attach a screenshot to a new Bug report? I hope I can do the bug report on the weekend. If someone else can do it, I have a screenshot and can add it. There is a reopened bug report. I added my comment and a screenshot. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31023 I get the same website with LibreOffice 3.3.2, OOO330m19 (Build:201) tag libreoffice-3.3.2.1 FYI: Now I found a folder called sun in Users\Public\Documents. There is a link releasnote1 with the url http://update.services.openoffice.org/ooo/index_de.html?cid=920899;. After deinstalling LibO, renaming the folder sun to bun and installing LibO 3.3.2 again there was no opening ooo side now (WIN764bit). -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Feature Request: Capitalizing Letters:
Thanks or the shortcuts for ubuntu and Linux Sent from my iPhone On 07/04/2011, at 10:05 PM, M Henri Day mhenri...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/4/7 Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com On 2011-04-07 10:54, Steve Edmonds wrote: On 2011-04-07 10:02, Christoph Noack wrote: Hi Laurence! Am Donnerstag, den 07.04.2011, 07:32 +1000 schrieb Laurence Jeloudev: can't there be a shortcut like in microsoft office for capitalisation? You can define a shortcut to execute the capitalization feature. Please go to Tools -- Customize... and the tab Keyboard. Then select an entry in Shortcut keys according to your wish (Strg+F3 is already used for AutoText, but you may change that). Then, chose the desired feature - in your case it might be Category=Format, and Function=Capitalize Every Word (or: Rotate case). Does this help? Cheers, Christoph Thanks, helped me - I just had a cause to lowercase 2 letters in the middle of a list of uppercase words. Made it much easier with a shortcut. In fact it is even better to asign my own shortcut. For best efficiency I like to keep one hand on the mouse and one on the keyboard (highlight-shortcut) and hence I want one handed shortcuts. SHIFT+F is no good, CTRL+SHIFT+L or CTRL+SHIFT+U works for me. When assigning, keyboard shortcuts, Ubuntu and other Linux users might want to note that «Ctrl + Shift + u» provides access to Unicode hexadecimals Henri -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Microsoft Producer for Powerpoint 2003 equivalent
On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 04:06:04PM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: Hi Randolf, On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 07:40 -0400, Randolph, Ronald E. wrote: Just a question guys, before I decide on your great product. End user questions don't belong on the developer list. Please use the discuss list for that. First, his given name is not Randolph. It's Ronald. Second, since when is this a developer list? -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[steering-discuss] yesterday's recording online
Hello, yesterday's recording is now online at http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Steering_Committee_Meetings#Minutes_2011-04-06 Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
