[fr-discuss] IBM va reverser Symphony à Apache OpenOffice.org (Fwd: Symphony contribution )
Bonjour, Ci-dessous, le mail initial de Rob Weir (IBM). L'entreprise IBM, qui n'a pas toujours été un bon citoyen d'OpenOffice.org, semble vouloir elle aussi améliorer son image auprès de la communauté OpenOffice.org. Depuis, et pour compléter cette information importante, dans un échange entre Malte Timmermann et Yong Lin ma (IBM aussi), celui-ci a confirmé que ce serait TOUT Symphony qui serait contribué en retour à apache OpenOffice.org, sous licence Apache (!!). Je cite l'échange (partiel) entre Malte et Yong Lin Ma : ... On 14.07.2011 05:09, Yong Lin Ma wrote: ... We are willing to contribute the whole Symphony to community. The code would be available to the community. (The C++ part of Symphony, also the counterpart of OO.o in Symphony). ... Même s'il faudra quelques mois pour se relever, et produire à nouveau, OpenOffice.org a encore de beau jours :-) Cordialement, Eric Bachard Début du message réexpédié : De : Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com Date : 14 juillet 2011 00:00:57 HAEC À : ooo-...@incubator.apache.org Objet : Symphony contribution I'm sending this with my IBM hat. I'm going to be speaking at the ODF Plugfest in Berlin Friday afternoon, and will be making some announcements. I wanted you to hear this first, before anyone else knows. You know about IBM Lotus Symphony, our free (as in beer) product which is based on OOo. We're doing well with it, I think. Along with various numerous interop, performance enhancements and functional/bug fixes, we've done some significant work in the accessibility and user interface in general. If you saw recently, PC Magazine gave Symphony 3.0 its Editors' Choice Award [1]. In the review they praised the interface that's been tweaked by IBM to make it by far the user-friendliest no-cost productivity suite, and one's that's friendly enough to rival the spacious and informative interface that Microsoft created for Office 2010 and that Apple created for iWork '09. So the UI enhancements are getting some notice. However, we at IBM have not been exemplary community members when it came to OpenOffice.org. This wasn't necessarily by design, but for various reasons, that was the effect. Yes, we participated in various community councils, and sponsored conferences and worked together on standards. But when it came down to the code, we maintained Symphony essentially as a fork, and although we occasionally contributed code back, we did not do this well, or often. We'd like to make some changes in how we do things, and the fresh start at Apache is a good opportunity for this. We will be doing the following: First, we're going to contribute the standalone version of Lotus Symphony to the Apache OpenOffice.org project, under the Apache 2.0 license. We'll also work with project members to prioritize which pieces make sense to integrate into OpenOffice. For example, we'vecalready done a lot of work with replacing GPL/LPGL dependencies. Using the Symphony code could help accelerate that work and get us to an AOOo release faster. We've already converted the help files to DITA, which could help accelerate that work, if we chose to go in that direction. Aside from the work that would help accelerate getting AOOo to our first release, we've also added other features that I think we should consider merging in. For example, the IAccessible2 work which helps Symphony work better with assistive technology.I know an older version of this work sits in an OOo CWS someplace, but it will be easier to integrate that work if we start with our latest code. We've also added VBA macro support, which is great for MS Office interop. Also, as the PC Magazine review notes, we've done some really good UI work. I invite you to download Symphony [2] and take a closer look at this. Yes, it is different from what OOo has today. And a move of that magnitude has an impact on documentation and translations as well. But the feedback we've received from customers and reviewers is very positive. Do we integrate parts of the Symphony UI? That is something for the project to discuss and decide on. Finally, we will be proposing [3] a new incubation project at Apache, for the ODF Toolkit. These Java libraries enable new kinds of lightweight document processing applications. We think this would work well as an Apache project, and we look forward to moving that into incubation and developing that complementary project forward. So that's essentially what I'll be announcing on Friday. The above contributions will occur over the next couple of months, starting with the ODF Toolkit. I hope you see the exciting possibilities as much as I do. Regards, -Rob [1] http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2387439,00.asp [2] http://symphony.lotus.com/ [3] http://odftoolkit.org/projects/odftoolkit/pages/ApacheProposal -- qɔᴉɹə Education Project:
[fr-discuss] Re: IBM va reverser Symphony à Apache OpenOffice.org (Fwd: Symphony contribution )
Bonjour Eric Excellente nouvelle ! Ceci dit, au vu des dernières nouvelles, je ne suis pas spécialement inquiet sur le redémarrage d'OOo @+ Fred -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@fr.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: sy...@fr.openoffice.org with Subject: help
[fr-discuss] Re: IBM va reverser Symphony à Apache OpenOffice.org (Fwd: Symphony contribution )
Bonjour, C'est une bonne nouvelle pour le projet OpenOffice : collaborer au code ce n'est pas uniquement faire du marketing pour un produit. @+, Stéphane. Le 14 juil. 2011 à 13:39, eric b a écrit : Bonjour, Ci-dessous, le mail initial de Rob Weir (IBM). L'entreprise IBM, qui n'a pas toujours été un bon citoyen d'OpenOffice.org, semble vouloir elle aussi améliorer son image auprès de la communauté OpenOffice.org. Depuis, et pour compléter cette information importante, dans un échange entre Malte Timmermann et Yong Lin ma (IBM aussi), celui-ci a confirmé que ce serait TOUT Symphony qui serait contribué en retour à apache OpenOffice.org, sous licence Apache (!!). Je cite l'échange (partiel) entre Malte et Yong Lin Ma : ... On 14.07.2011 05:09, Yong Lin Ma wrote: ... We are willing to contribute the whole Symphony to community. The code would be available to the community. (The C++ part of Symphony, also the counterpart of OO.o in Symphony). ... Même s'il faudra quelques mois pour se relever, et produire à nouveau, OpenOffice.org a encore de beau jours :-) Cordialement, Eric Bachard Début du message réexpédié : De : Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com Date : 14 juillet 2011 00:00:57 HAEC À : ooo-...@incubator.apache.org Objet : Symphony contribution I'm sending this with my IBM hat. I'm going to be speaking at the ODF Plugfest in Berlin Friday afternoon, and will be making some announcements. I wanted you to hear this first, before anyone else knows. You know about IBM Lotus Symphony, our free (as in beer) product which is based on OOo. We're doing well with it, I think. Along with various numerous interop, performance enhancements and functional/bug fixes, we've done some significant work in the accessibility and user interface in general. If you saw recently, PC Magazine gave Symphony 3.0 its Editors' Choice Award [1]. In the review they praised the interface that's been tweaked by IBM to make it by far the user-friendliest no-cost productivity suite, and one's that's friendly enough to rival the spacious and informative interface that Microsoft created for Office 2010 and that Apple created for iWork '09. So the UI enhancements are getting some notice. However, we at IBM have not been exemplary community members when it came to OpenOffice.org. This wasn't necessarily by design, but for various reasons, that was the effect. Yes, we participated in various community councils, and sponsored conferences and worked together on standards. But when it came down to the code, we maintained Symphony essentially as a fork, and although we occasionally contributed code back, we did not do this well, or often. We'd like to make some changes in how we do things, and the fresh start at Apache is a good opportunity for this. We will be doing the following: First, we're going to contribute the standalone version of Lotus Symphony to the Apache OpenOffice.org project, under the Apache 2.0 license. We'll also work with project members to prioritize which pieces make sense to integrate into OpenOffice. For example, we'vecalready done a lot of work with replacing GPL/LPGL dependencies. Using the Symphony code could help accelerate that work and get us to an AOOo release faster. We've already converted the help files to DITA, which could help accelerate that work, if we chose to go in that direction. Aside from the work that would help accelerate getting AOOo to our first release, we've also added other features that I think we should consider merging in. For example, the IAccessible2 work which helps Symphony work better with assistive technology.I know an older version of this work sits in an OOo CWS someplace, but it will be easier to integrate that work if we start with our latest code. We've also added VBA macro support, which is great for MS Office interop. Also, as the PC Magazine review notes, we've done some really good UI work. I invite you to download Symphony [2] and take a closer look at this. Yes, it is different from what OOo has today. And a move of that magnitude has an impact on documentation and translations as well. But the feedback we've received from customers and reviewers is very positive. Do we integrate parts of the Symphony UI? That is something for the project to discuss and decide on. Finally, we will be proposing [3] a new incubation project at Apache, for the ODF Toolkit. These Java libraries enable new kinds of lightweight document processing applications. We think this would work well as an Apache project, and we look forward to moving that into incubation and developing that complementary project forward. So that's essentially what I'll be announcing on Friday. The above contributions will occur over the next couple of months, starting with the ODF Toolkit. I hope you see the exciting
[fr-discuss] Re: IBM va reverser Symphony à Apache OpenOffice.org (Fwd: Symphony contribution )
Le 14 juil. 11 à 17:18, Fred Juan DIAZ a écrit : Bonjour Eric Bonjour Fred, Excellente nouvelle ! Ceci dit, au vu des dernières nouvelles, je ne suis pas spécialement inquiet sur le redémarrage d'OOo Oui, et je suis en train de me reposer la question de signer l'ICLA : je souhaite vraiment donner un coup de main (il y a vraiment besoin d'aide en ce moment), et la décision d'IBM est en train de me faire changer d'avis (je voulais pas signer ce truc). De plus, avec tous les étudiants qui veulent aussi contribuer à OOo, je pense que ce serait plus simple. À bientôt, Eric -- qɔᴉɹə Education Project: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Project Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@fr.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: sy...@fr.openoffice.org with Subject: help
