Re: [jQuery] IE7 May be Pushed out Tomorrow

2006-10-10 Thread Onno Timmerman
Webunity|Gilles van den Hoven schreef:
 Rey Bango wrote:
 If you don't want to upgrade, be very vigilant about what automatic 
 updates you install during MS' normal patch cycle:
   
 Does anybody know if it is possible to run both IE 6.x and IE7 both on 
 thesame system? An absolute must if you are a web developer...
 
 Thanx
 
 Gilles
 

I use GNU/Linux ubuntu for that. I got simple IE 6 and IE 5.5 open. And 
hopefully soon IE 7 together... If that doesn't work I also open windows 
via vmware.

Two monitors... Upper monitor a browser down monitor text editor.
It's easy. On each desk I have a diffrent browser Firefox, IE, opera, 
Konquerer ...
and all the same on the bottom screen.

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[jQuery] IE7 May be Pushed out Tomorrow

2006-10-09 Thread Rey Bango
If you don't want to upgrade, be very vigilant about what automatic 
updates you install during MS' normal patch cycle:

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2006/10/microsoft_to_push_out_internet.html

Rey...

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Re: [jQuery] IE7 May be Pushed out Tomorrow

2006-10-09 Thread Webunity | Gilles van den Hoven
Rey Bango wrote:
 If you don't want to upgrade, be very vigilant about what automatic 
 updates you install during MS' normal patch cycle:
   
Does anybody know if it is possible to run both IE 6.x and IE7 both on 
thesame system? An absolute must if you are a web developer...

Thanx

Gilles

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Re: [jQuery] IE7 May be Pushed out Tomorrow

2006-10-09 Thread Matt Stith
i dont think its a good idea for ms to force ie7 automatically, thats
a big change and would REALLY confuse the average IE user...

On 10/9/06, Rey Bango [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If you don't want to upgrade, be very vigilant about what automatic
 updates you install during MS' normal patch cycle:

 http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2006/10/microsoft_to_push_out_internet.html

 Rey...

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Re: [jQuery] IE7 May be Pushed out Tomorrow

2006-10-09 Thread Jörn Zaefferer
Webunity | Gilles van den Hoven schrieb:
 Does anybody know if it is possible to run both IE 6.x and IE7 both on 
 thesame system? An absolute must if you are a web developer...
Try this: http://tredosoft.com/IE7_standalone
Works good enough for me.

-- Jörn

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Re: [jQuery] IE7 May be Pushed out Tomorrow

2006-10-09 Thread Franck Marcia
2006/10/9, Franck Marcia [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 2006/10/9, Jörn Zaefferer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   thesame system? An absolute must if you are a web developer...
  Try this: http://tredosoft.com/IE7_standalone

 ... and the opposite: ie3 to ie6, standalone.

 Franck.


... and the link: Forgot the link:
http://browsers.evolt.org/?ie/32bit/standalone

Franck.

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Re: [jQuery] IE7 May be Pushed out Tomorrow

2006-10-09 Thread Webunity | Gilles van den Hoven

 Try this: http://tredosoft.com/IE7_standalone
 Works good enough for me.
   
Thanx, just downloaded it!


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Re: [jQuery] IE7 May be Pushed out Tomorrow

2006-10-09 Thread Klaus Hartl


Franck Marcia schrieb:
 2006/10/9, Jörn Zaefferer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 thesame system? An absolute must if you are a web developer...
 Try this: http://tredosoft.com/IE7_standalone
 
 ... and the opposite: ie3 to ie6, standalone.

Wow Franck, you are still testing in IE3? ;-)


--Klaus

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Re: [jQuery] IE7 May be Pushed out Tomorrow

2006-10-09 Thread Michael Geary
 Does anybody know if it is possible to run both IE 6.x and 
 IE7 both on thesame system? An absolute must if you are
 a web developer...

Use VMware and you can run every version of IE, and Firefox, and any other
Windows browser you want to test.

http://www.vmware.com/

-Mike


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Re: [jQuery] IE7 May be Pushed out Tomorrow

2006-10-09 Thread Jörn Zaefferer
Michael Geary schrieb:
 Does anybody know if it is possible to run both IE 6.x and 
 IE7 both on thesame system? An absolute must if you are
 a web developer...
 

 Use VMware and you can run every version of IE, and Firefox, and any other
 Windows browser you want to test.

 http://www.vmware.com/
   
With the (free) VMware player and a linux image, you can also test the 
linux browsers from windows.

Is there any way to test Safari on a windows system?

-- Jörn

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Re: [jQuery] IE7 May be Pushed out Tomorrow

2006-10-09 Thread Franck Marcia
2006/10/9, Klaus Hartl [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Wow Franck, you are still testing in IE3? ;-)


I tried to use it, just for fun... but found no fun :-(

Franck.

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Re: [jQuery] IE7 May be Pushed out Tomorrow

2006-10-09 Thread Franck Marcia
2006/10/9, Michael Geary [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Use VMware and you can run every version of IE, and Firefox, and any other
 Windows browser you want to test.

There's also an open source alternative: QEmu
(http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/)

I use it and find it faster than vmware.

Franck.

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Re: [jQuery] IE7 May be Pushed out Tomorrow

2006-10-09 Thread Klaus Hartl


Ⓙⓐⓚⓔ schrieb:
 You need http://www.browsrcamp.com/ ... real safari via the web! (at
 least the resultant image of the page)... for free! they even have a
 priced option for using the other mac browsers and more.


I will never understand the use of some screenshots if I want to fix 
some CSS in a browser...

By the way, if you need different versions of Safari side by side have a 
look here:

http://www.michelf.com/projects/multi-safari/


-- Klaus


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Re: [jQuery] IE7 May be Pushed out Tomorrow

2006-10-09 Thread Dave Methvin
Just to set expectations on timetables, MS said they would eventually push
IE7 out as a high-priority patch a few weeks after general release. So
although tech-savvy users may be able to download the final IE7 within a
week or two--and many already have IE7 RC2--Aunt Abby probably won't have it
for at least several weeks longer. According to Microsoft, you'll see a
different alert window for the update when it arrives. They have a picture
of it here:
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/07/26/678149.aspx

Release must be getting close, though, I just got an email that they are
doing one final chat on IE7 this week:
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/10/09/Last-Expert-Zone-Chat-Before-We-
Ship-IE.aspx

If MS released on their typical Patch Tuesday schedule, the most likely
dates for the push would be November 14 or December 12. Big companies often
have embargoes on non-essential updates during November and December (too
many holidays and vacations) so they may defer IE7 installation into 2007.
As far as Microsoft is concerned, ordinary consumers can get updates any
time Microsoft is good and ready to send them, so this patch may come out on
an unusual day.

If we are really unlucky, MS will push IE7 out on an odd day like November
21 and ruin Thanksgiving day for geeks all over the USA. Instead of relaxing
with a beer and watching football, or eating turkey around the table with
the family, I'll sit with a plate dripping gravy in my lap trying to fix my
mom's computer as she says, It just started doing that on Tuesday, now my
favorite web sites don't look right!




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Re: [jQuery] IE7 May be Pushed out Tomorrow

2006-10-09 Thread Gordon Heydon
Hi,

Webunity|Gilles van den Hoven wrote:
 Rey Bango wrote:
 If you don't want to upgrade, be very vigilant about what automatic 
 updates you install during MS' normal patch cycle:
   
 Does anybody know if it is possible to run both IE 6.x and IE7 both on 
 thesame system? An absolute must if you are a web developer...

I don't think you can do this on windows, but you can on linux once they 
get IE 7 running.

See IEs4linux - http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page for 
more information.

Gordon.

 Thanx
 
 Gilles
 
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Re: [jQuery] IE7 May be Pushed out Tomorrow

2006-10-09 Thread Rey Bango
Great points Dave. I'm more concerned about people that have automatic 
updates set to just install versus prompting. Thats why I sent out this 
alert. Considering how MS threw in WGA as a critical update for many 
Windows users without really letting them know what they were getting, I 
wouldn't put a foced upgrade to IE7 past them.

Rey...

Dave Methvin wrote:
 Just to set expectations on timetables, MS said they would eventually push
 IE7 out as a high-priority patch a few weeks after general release. So
 although tech-savvy users may be able to download the final IE7 within a
 week or two--and many already have IE7 RC2--Aunt Abby probably won't have it
 for at least several weeks longer. According to Microsoft, you'll see a
 different alert window for the update when it arrives. They have a picture
 of it here:
 http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/07/26/678149.aspx
 
 Release must be getting close, though, I just got an email that they are
 doing one final chat on IE7 this week:
 http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/10/09/Last-Expert-Zone-Chat-Before-We-
 Ship-IE.aspx
 
 If MS released on their typical Patch Tuesday schedule, the most likely
 dates for the push would be November 14 or December 12. Big companies often
 have embargoes on non-essential updates during November and December (too
 many holidays and vacations) so they may defer IE7 installation into 2007.
 As far as Microsoft is concerned, ordinary consumers can get updates any
 time Microsoft is good and ready to send them, so this patch may come out on
 an unusual day.
 
 If we are really unlucky, MS will push IE7 out on an odd day like November
 21 and ruin Thanksgiving day for geeks all over the USA. Instead of relaxing
 with a beer and watching football, or eating turkey around the table with
 the family, I'll sit with a plate dripping gravy in my lap trying to fix my
 mom's computer as she says, It just started doing that on Tuesday, now my
 favorite web sites don't look right!
 
 
 
 
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