Re: [jQuery] NEWS: JQuery being used for Bookmarklets

2006-10-04 Thread dizzledorf

Patrick,

I haven's used JS Shell, but digging around that site led me to their
Bookmarklets page:
http://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/

This is a godsend for development and testing!  Many features are already
present in the Web Dev toolbar, other bookmarklets, etc.  But there's still
a few gems here... Thanks for the lead.



Patrick Hall wrote:
 
 Anyone else use Jesse Ruderman's js shell?
 
 http://www.squarefree.com/categories/javascript-shell/
 
 I love that thing, use it every day. Using this script trick to
 inject jQuery into that bookmarklet would be sweet -- one click to a
 jquery-enabled shell that would let you dig around the structure of
 any site...
 
 -p@
 
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[jQuery] NEWS: JQuery being used for Bookmarklets

2006-10-03 Thread Rey Bango
Another mention of JQuery, this time in a bookmarklet.

http://blogs.pathf.com/agileajax/2006/10/using_bookmarkl.html

Rey...

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Re: [jQuery] NEWS: JQuery being used for Bookmarklets

2006-10-03 Thread Patrick Hall
On 10/3/06, Rey Bango [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Another mention of JQuery, this time in a bookmarklet.

 http://blogs.pathf.com/agileajax/2006/10/using_bookmarkl.html

That's cool. How does this get around the no opening content from
other domains restriction?

-pat

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Re: [jQuery] NEWS: JQuery being used for Bookmarklets

2006-10-03 Thread Dave Benjamin
On Tue, 3 Oct 2006, Patrick Hall wrote:

 On 10/3/06, Rey Bango [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Another mention of JQuery, this time in a bookmarklet.

 http://blogs.pathf.com/agileajax/2006/10/using_bookmarkl.html

 That's cool. How does this get around the no opening content from
 other domains restriction?

This restriction does not currently apply to script tags. However, relying 
on this behavior may be risky - the Douglas Crockford quote on the 
following page comes to mind:

http://www.mindsack.com/uxe/dynodes/

He's not kidding, however, when he says It cannot be easily fixed because 
the whole advertising infrastructure depends on the hole.. This includes 
Google. =)

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Re: [jQuery] NEWS: JQuery being used for Bookmarklets

2006-10-03 Thread John Resig
 However, relying on this behavior may be risky -
 the Douglas Crockford quote on the
 following page comes to mind:

In fact, it is the complete opposite of 'risky' - it is very safe.
It's not going to change anytime in the foreseeable future
(considering that it  would require every single browser manufacturer
to, first deem it as being a security hole, then fix it independently
of each other).

IMO, I don't consider the loading of remote scripts to be a security
hole at all - and that many browser-based security restrictions are
way to tight as it is. Right now you can do much more damaging things
with Iframes (see: What's currently possible for remote scripting in
Dojo) than anything that can be accomplished with script tags.

Look at Crockford's proposed JSONRequest object - it's borderline
unusable due to all the security restrictions that are in place -
forcing them to only work in the most controlled of situations.

Of course, maybe I'm just bitter because I'm constantly trying to find
ways of doing cross domain requests - and am being foiled at every
step of the way ;-)

--John

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Re: [jQuery] NEWS: JQuery being used for Bookmarklets

2006-10-03 Thread Patrick Hall
Anyone else use Jesse Ruderman's js shell?

http://www.squarefree.com/categories/javascript-shell/

I love that thing, use it every day. Using this script trick to
inject jQuery into that bookmarklet would be sweet -- one click to a
jquery-enabled shell that would let you dig around the structure of
any site...

-p@

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Re: [jQuery] NEWS: JQuery being used for Bookmarklets

2006-10-03 Thread Jason Levine
That's cool. How does this get around the no opening content from
other domains restriction?
-pat

I think that the bookmarklet is running locally so it gets around the domain 
restrictions.

This is kind of like something I was considering.  I used to write occasional 
HTA files to complete tasks locally.  I wonder if JQuery could be used in HTA 
files to make them easier to write and more powerful.  It probably could be.  
Add in Interface Elements for JQuery and some of the other great plugins and 
you could write an HTA application that really seemed like a normal desktop 
application.

-Jason Levine
http://www.jasons-toolbox.com/





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